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George Spiggott wrote:

gorgon wrote:It's funny how SM players can get outraged over losing a single unit, but are often the least sympathetic people when others' entire armies get Squatted.

First they came for the Dark Angels, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Dark Angel. Then they came for the Chaos Space Marines, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Chaos Space Marine. Then they came for the Imperial Guard, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a Space Wolf. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.

More like, then they came for Space Wolves, and I didn’t speak up, repeat to include Tau, Nids, BA & BT. I am a Necron, DE, DH, or WH, WHY WON'T they come for me even when I or others DO speak up?!!!!

Lol, at people thinking it's bolter, bp, ccw.

The true grit rule is you can assault after rapid firing bolters, and bolters only (i.e. plasma guns don't count.)
Read the warseer space wolves rumor thread first page carefully.

I personally don't like it at all. Marines can shoot pistols and then charge, so it's really a minor benefit.

George Spiggott wrote:

gorgon wrote:It's funny how SM players can get outraged over losing a single unit, but are often the least sympathetic people when others' entire armies get Squatted.

First they came for the Dark Angels, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Dark Angel. Then they came for the Chaos Space Marines, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Chaos Space Marine. Then they came for the Imperial Guard, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a Space Wolf. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.

Oh, for crissakes. I make one tongue-in-cheek comment and suddenly we're making Holocaust comparisons.

It's one tank. Losing that is called getting off easy in this hobby. You kept your army and the majority of your units will still be fieldable. SW will get a great codex. Enough with the mock drama.

SgtDavi wrote:I guess this will also be the Codex picture (following the trend of the IG White Dwarf and Planetstrike White Dwarf, Lizardmen WhiteDwarf etc.

In which case its bloody awesome.

It's good that he's screaming, but loses points for not being bald...

The pose is solid, it's well focused on the Space Wolf Marine, and will stand out nicely and clearly on the rack from across the room.

Cover-wise, it's far better than the IG cover. Why GW couldn't have done a squad of IG Veterans or a IG Command Squad as the cover boys is completely beyond me.

Guard is about a mass of men, woofs are heroic individuals.

That cover has the feeling of a saga. I mean that in the sense that: Here are 3 badass space wolves, one of whom has a massive wolf over his shoulders....This gak is so awesome he gets +1 strength on the charge

I also liked the IG codex picture, it highlighted the true nature of the fluff Imperial Guard....

C:Spess Mehrines was also pretty awesome...even though its an ULTRAsmurf its so badass.

BrookM wrote:Guard is about a mass of men, woofs are heroic individuals.

Hence having a small IG squad in the foreground. When every other cover is a single model, a 3- to 5- person squad stands out as a group. Mob the background as usual for Guard, and the message is clear up close and afar.

I prefer the cover on the last one to the current one. The older style really popped to me while the new one seems bland. Oh well.

Ah, but this one is more grimdarkx2.

So True Grit may mean an assault after RF? I would prefer the BP/CCW/Bolter and countercharge :-) An extra 8 S4 AP4 shots isn't terrible. The problem will be with 1 base attack and no BP/CCW. That makes for a weak CC group. That's why I suspect they may get the bolter=bp in CC included in TG as well. Maybe. We'll see.

I can't see why they just can't get Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon and Bolter just like the Spiky Loyalists got. Including a rule that says you can fire a bolter and still charge would be pointless if a Bolt Pistol does that already. It would be a special rule to allow them to shoot and attack, but still not be as good in close combat as a Spiky Loyalist who doesn't even particularly like fist fights.

Railguns wrote:Including a rule that says you can fire a bolter and still charge would be pointless if a Bolt Pistol does that already.

Except you have two shots with the bolter, instead of one shot with the pistol, no?

I can't see SW going to B&BP&CCW - that's Heresy!

JohnHwangDD wrote:I can't see SW going to B&BP&CCW - that's Heresy!

Maybe they'll be able to fire their Bolter and assault as well as treat their bolters as a bolt pistol in CC.

Seems pretty logical for Grey hunters and maybe Scouts.

I wonder if SW Scouts will be plastic.

George Spiggott wrote:Seems pretty logical for Grey hunters and maybe Scouts.

I wonder if SW Scouts will be plastic.

All they need for plastic scouts is upgrade bits on the sw sprew

JohnHwangDD wrote:I can't see SW going to B&BP&CCW - that's Heresy!

Well, it is apparently also non-Codex, so...

Maybe!

JohnHwangDD wrote:I can't see SW going to B&BP&CCW - that's Heresy!

No, sacking Terra is Heresy. Having b, bp, ccw is just....heretical.

If it stomps me some more traitors, I'm not complaining. Thats also the same cover for Thunder from Fenris BTW methinks. We shall see...

Mastiff wrote:

Railguns wrote:Including a rule that says you can fire a bolter and still charge would be pointless if a Bolt Pistol does that already.

Except you have two shots with the bolter, instead of one shot with the pistol, no?

You can't rapid fire a bolter and charge.

Railguns wrote:

Mastiff wrote:

Railguns wrote:Including a rule that says you can fire a bolter and still charge would be pointless if a Bolt Pistol does that already.

Except you have two shots with the bolter, instead of one shot with the pistol, no?

You can't rapid fire a bolter and charge.

i think you missed the rumor that grey hunter true grit allows them to rapid fire THEN charge. Hence what the discussion is about.

Okay. I thought the rumour was that it said you could count a bolter as a bolt pistol in close combat.

That's what it currently does. But it doesn't stack with the assault bonus.

Allowing RF and charge plus counts as BP would be great!

jmurph wrote:That's what it currently does. But it doesn't stack with the assault bonus.

Allowing RF and charge plus counts as BP would be great!

That would make me /spooge