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Hope they give us an idea of what the Gravelord's theme will be.

Is it Soulblight split out with all new vampire themed kits.
Is it essentially LoN but with new Vampires and allegiance abilities?
Is it all new sculpts of Vampires leading zombies and necrotic constructs? (my hope)

It's clearly not a kangaroo. Kangaroos can only move their hind legs together, they can't step with them. Without the hopping these are just some weird mammalian parasaurolophus...

Could there be multiple mount types for that lumineth unit? The teaser video has a mount with different leg textures. Although, it could just be the white vs brown paint scheme throwing me off. Thoughts?

Thinking that's an unnamed melee hero (that they currently lack I believe)

The leaked pics are just made for some cheap jokes.

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Hum... I kinda like the mount. And the rider isn't bad either. The Vampire looks nice, but in no way those' hairs' would survive the side cutter...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I hope they're cheaper in Australia...

Kudos, that's funny

 Hellebore wrote:
It's clearly not a kangaroo. Kangaroos can only move their hind legs together, they can't step with them. Without the hopping these are just some weird mammalian parasaurolophus...

Of course it isn't literally a kangaroo, "kangaroo" is just close enough and easier than saying "adjectiveverb verbnouners" which is their actual name.

 Eldarain wrote:
Thinking that's an unnamed melee hero (that they currently lack I believe)

Thats an interesting take. Makes absolute sense a hero might have a special mount.

 mokoshkana wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
Thinking that's an unnamed melee hero (that they currently lack I believe)

Thats an interesting take. Makes absolute sense a hero might have a special mount.

My Chaos Lord on Karkadrak says, "What you talkin' 'bout, Willis." Special mounts for characters. Pshaw! That's crazy talk.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Tactical rock? Check.

GW loves having their heroes on these kinda platforms. I'm growing incredibly weary of it. Still though, I'm excited to see what Saturday brings.


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My hope is a straight LoN update... solely so my skellies don't become obsolete.

No dad, i'm a mounted archer not a crazed bowman. Well the diffrence is one's a job and the other's a mental illness!

Pure garbage pose on that vampire. Why is it standing tippy toe on a rock? Is the floor lava? Why is it looking down left? Examining a scratch on the shield rim?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Pure garbage pose on that vampire. Why is it standing tippy toe on a rock? Is the floor lava? Why is it looking down left? Examining a scratch on the shield rim?

Because it's easier to repose the Dark Eldar archon file than build a new body for it i guess.

Gotta say it looks dumb kind of standing on top of something high like a castle wall or cliff looking down but just doesn't fit for a base.

Not sold on the Vampire yet, but that Elf is awesome!

The Vampire would actually look pretty good if not for the Tactical Rock he's stood on for no other reason than some designer's perverse fetish for them.

The Kangaroo looks hilarious and not in a good way.

 Eldarain wrote:
Hope they give us an idea of what the Gravelord's theme will be.

Is it Soulblight split out with all new vampire themed kits.
Is it essentially LoN but with new Vampires and allegiance abilities?
Is it all new sculpts of Vampires leading zombies and necrotic constructs? (my hope)

'Gravelords' does sound like they'll be leading other undead, probably whatever they're cooking up for Zoymbiz.

Both look very poor imo

I acknowledge the existence of elven kangaroo cavalry.

Between the hair and the tactical rock I find the vampire to look pretty dodgy. Could be a cool model in real life and with minor cosmetic changes, though.

 Lord Perversor wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Pure garbage pose on that vampire. Why is it standing tippy toe on a rock? Is the floor lava? Why is it looking down left? Examining a scratch on the shield rim?

Because it's easier to repose the Dark Eldar archon file than build a new body for it i guess.

Please don't. That doesn't even make sense.

Interesting that the vampire picture is from a blister pack - so not part of the upcoming Underworlds warband (or a box set game etc.).

Not convinced by the model, but it's obviously not the clearest picture. Hair will definitely need to be converted to something less weird looking, armour looks promising. Doesn't look nautical by the way.

Lumineth... meh. Nice to have a normal bow, mount looks less practical, hat silly as per usual.

Bats into the hair is very suggestive that the vampire has the ability to turn into a swarm of bats and has just flown across the battlefield and turned back into vampire form. The bats flying into the hair being the last part of the change.

Or if they are flying away from the vampire then its the other way around; its about to go all bat-swarm and fly around and cause chaos.

If the vampire is real, which I am leaning toward at this point, I think it's very likely to signal the end of the Legions of Nagash book.

I think they'll roll what's left of LoN into the new Soulblight, maybe with a new zombie kit. Nagash will likely have a warscroll in Soulblight, and likely in Nighthaunt when he gets updated as well.

There's no reason Legions of Nagash can't remain. It's actually a neat way to do a "death alliance" army without it being broken.

It plucks a few models from each of the Death armies and uses them in combination. Vampires will just be like all the others, even Ossiarchs, in splicing out what they want/need from the Legion.


We also don't know fully what's going with these vampires; they might include zombies and skeletons as well or they too could be broken off into their own faction armies.

 Overread wrote:
There's no reason Legions of Nagash can't remain. It's actually a neat way to do a "death alliance" army without it being broken.

It plucks a few models from each of the Death armies and uses them in combination. Vampires will just be like all the others, even Ossiarchs, in splicing out what they want/need from the Legion.


We also don't know fully what's going with these vampires; they might include zombies and skeletons as well or they too could be broken off into their own faction armies.

LoN really feels like an old hold up from when a ton of models didn't really have a place. If Gravelords fills that place for the rest of the models, then it makes sense to get rid of LoN since GW has been moving away from Grand Alliance style books.

Additionally, there is a balance issue involved with some of these shared units. Grimghast Reapers being a very prominent example. They were balanced in Nighthaunt, but broken in LoN. Several units become much harder to balance when you have to do it across two battletomes with different mechanics.

Or GW just has two different warscrolls for two different books. IF they want to be fussy they can always rename the models to things like "Legion Grimghast Reapers" when in the legion army.

 Sasori wrote:

LoN really feels like an old hold up from when a ton of models didn't really have a place. If Gravelords fills that place for the rest of the models, then it makes sense to get rid of LoN since GW has been moving away from Grand Alliance style books.

I'm feeling like the whole 'Grand Alliance' style approach is more a Cities of Sigmar themed thing - with the Stormkeeps being a bonus variant of it. Bits of Faction X mixed in with Faction Y.

However, Skaven, Ogors and Orruks all exist as single books rather than be split into 'sub-faction' specific books so LoN doesn't seem that off....

That Vampiress hair is...something. Maybe it'll look good in person? From the blurry pic it loolks kinda bad from a pure volume PoV. If she had a few bigger bats forming kind of a wing silhouette it might be really badass, right now it looks like cute goth girl ribbons.

PS: What a year, you stop looking at GW rumours foe a few days and you miss elf hoppers

My (continued) hot take is that Gravelords is actually Soulblight and Flesh-Eater Courts combined.

Kind of like the Vampire.

Feel decidedly... unplussed on Kangaroo archer. As with many things it may look better in the flesh.

As a few others - I feel the Lumineth Spears/Archers/Knights are some of the best models GW have ever made - but everything else in the range has this uncanny valley effect.

I wasn’t sure on the Kanga-cav when I first saw it this morning, but it’s grown on me a lot today.

I like the vamp too. Still would like a clearer picture but I think she’s cool. I like that she has a mace, not typically a vampire weapon.

Clearer pic you say?



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