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This entire thread is the reason I never play in a store or go to tournaments. Too many gamers have very dodgy personalities for my tastes. I choose to play with friends, not strangers. And friendship is always more important than the game. I just find such bizarre, rude and downright anti-social behaviour as that described on this thread completely wierd and want to steer clear of dealing with such people.

My few forays into gaming in stores and my one tournament confirmed every bad stereotype I had of gamers as a group. The preponderance of smelly, rude, overweight, maladjusted and just downright immature freaks in this hobby is upsetting, and not something I choose to expose myself to in the name of something I do for fun.

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Osbad wrote:This entire thread is the reason I never play in a store or go to tournaments. Too many gamers have very dodgy personalities for my tastes. I choose to play with friends, not strangers. And friendship is always more important than the game. I just find such bizarre, rude and downright anti-social behaviour as that described on this thread completely wierd and want to steer clear of dealing with such people.

My few forays into gaming in stores and my one tournament confirmed every bad stereotype I had of gamers as a group. The preponderance of smelly, rude, overweight, maladjusted and just downright immature freaks in this hobby is upsetting, and not something I choose to expose myself to in the name of something I do for fun.


I think it's a given that people in this hobby are more likely to have recessive social genes. There are some great gamers out there though, don't let a few bad experiences put you off at least meeting people, after all I'm sure your friends were strangers once?

When i moved to Chester i knew no-one, i had only just got back into the hobby and spent my first few times at the local GW painting quietly in the corner. Eventually i met a couple of people that didn't rub me up the wrong way and started gaming with them..... Six months later, eight of us went to the BloodBowl GT together in Nottingham and had a wicked time! Sure there are a few morons at the local store, but i avoid them

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ph34r wrote:
carmachu wrote:
ph34r wrote:I agree with Timmah. If you want to forfeit, you should be able to. I would consider it rude to refuse to allow an opponent to forfeit. If they are not having fun there should no nothing keeping them in the game.
So its "fun" for you to shoot up your opponent, but as soon as your opponent starts to get back in the game or the upper hand, you quit.

Thats your defination of fun? Remind me never to play you.
You would not play against me... because I would not try to bully my opponent into playing a game that they were not having fun in? It doesn't matter why they want to quit, if they want to forfeit, fine.
If they're being a douche about it (shooty army vs assault, forfeit when they get close) just don't play them again. You have no right to force someone to play.
Maybe you should read over your post again. It makes you seem the real douche here.


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yorkskargrimironklaw wrote:i just play an IG player whos plan in the torny was to take 1hour long turns in a timed torny of 2 and half hour a 1500pts game. i gave him 0 out of 10 for sportsmanship he gave me -3 sportsmanship the TO hit him with a nerf stick. like a real stick.
That's awesome. And horrible.


If I want to forfeit, I let my opponent finish their turn first, so they can reap some of the benefit/carnage of their hard work.
If it is me, I could care less really.

If a game is clearly over, I'd rather not waste my time or my opponents.

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Che-Vito wrote:If I want to forfeit, I let my opponent finish their turn first, so they can reap some of the benefit/carnage of their hard work.
If it is me, I could care less really.

If a game is clearly over, I'd rather not waste my time or my opponents.
That seems reasonable. If I forfeit, I usually do so on my own turn. However there are some times like "okay, I'm probably going to lose unless I pull off a miracle here *rolls dice, entire army does nothing* okay, good game".

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Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:J.Black... wicked threadromancer?

I think if it gets to the next page before anyone notices you get a pass.

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well, its not like this thread is time-sensitive or anything. Its a universal thread that is as relevant now as when it was originally posted...

I mean if it was a thread about a list for an upcomming tournament, yea, necroing is bad... but whatever, this isn't an offense i'd get my panties in a bunch for, were I a mod

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Ah yes, I thought I had read many of theses posts before...
But anyway, main premise of the thread is preserved, it's fairly timeless, I don't see any major problems here.

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Man, you want to talk about bad sportsmanship examples. One time I tried to talk to this guy about getting a game going, and he told me that I couldn't take inducted guard in my DH army anymore because of the fact that the PDF didn't have the rules for them in it. Like they were overpowered or something!


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Long long ago, in the dark days of second ed I played in my first tournament at a local store. Infiltrating troops were much cooler and heavy weapons did a LOT of wounds. My scout squad with autocannon scored a first round Hive Tyrant kill (failed it's armor save and I rolled really well for wounds)
The Tyranid player hardly had crap for synapse creatures and the army basically fell apart.
Dude was launching his dice all over the store and throwing a temper tantrum like a 3 year old. I was a little afraid to say anything to him for fear of setting him off worse

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Cambak wrote:Maybe the worsr sportsmanship I have seen so far was when I, playing Impieral Guard, had to fight against. . . guess what. . . Space Wolves!
Turn 1: he desided to keep all his in reserves, in drop pods, and I line up my few tanks with plasma sponsons across my army were I can keep a decent line of fire.
Turn 2: he prosided to drop his Lone Wolves, Long Fangs and his HQ on my flanks and blew up half my Demolishers. I turn the rest of them around and pound the gakky out of them.
Turn 3: he deepstrikes the rest of his army, thus boxing me in, did that gakky "Jaws of the Wolf" power or what even it is, I fail ALL my leadership tests, and basically half my army dies. I pound him some more with my tanks, tank shock a few units with my Chimeras to try to get out of the box, and fly my Valk over head and shoot his long fangs with the Multiple Misstle Pod, killing all of them. (some how)
Turn 4: he does it again, eliminated another 1/4 of my army and charges my tanks, wrecks 3 imobolizes the 4th. I then porceed to speed off my chimeras and Valk as fast as they could and claim 2 objectives.
Turn 5: he kills my valk with his Devistator squad and Tries, and fails to charge my veterans holding one of the objective. I use the Order First Rank Fire! Second Rank Fire! on his Tactical squad that was nearby and wipe it due to luck rolling on my side, piss poor rolling on his. We roll to see if the game continues and the game ends.

I win because I controlled 2 objectives with my last 2 vet squads and a company command squad. He proccides into a Nerd-rage throws all his dice at me, comes at me with a hoppy knife and fething stabbed my arm with it, I punch him in the face once and he drops to the floor were he is pinned down by the LFGS's staff till the cops show up.

Note: I am 17 and he is 29 years old.

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BS, how did a knife even get near your game? Was it just there, between the army-lists and the casualities pile? Also, 17 year old vs 29 year old with a knife? Yeah, sure you punched him down with your mighty hulk fists

All these "worst of" threads always seem to attract these people


The worst experience I had was my first tournament. I had just started 40k, but I managed to massacre my first opponent. He was whiny through the entire game, and after the game, I heard him dock my sportsmanship scores to the TO, just because he lost. I got perfect sportsmanship by every other opponent. It was a pretty sucky first tournament game, but luckily the next four opponents where awesome, and I was bitten by the tournament bug.

@guys who hate on tournaments: You should really get out there and play in a couple, sure you will run into some bad apples, like you will in any social setting, but 95% of the games I've played in tournaments have been great games vs great opponents, and I've meet many new friends there. Also, it's 1-2 days packed with gaming, what's not to love?

   
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Illumini wrote:@guys who hate on tournaments: You should really get out there and play in a couple, sure you will run into some bad apples, like you will in any social setting, but 95% of the games I've played in tournaments have been great games vs great opponents, and I've meet many new friends there. Also, it's 1-2 days packed with gaming, what's not to love?
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I run into more WAAC goons outside of tourneys; most of the type who really fit that bill do not attend them as it would require them to play correctly and under a TOs rules.

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Illumini wrote:@guys who hate on tournaments: You should really get out there and play in a couple, sure you will run into some bad apples, like you will in any social setting, but 95% of the games I've played in tournaments have been great games vs great opponents, and I've meet many new friends there. Also, it's 1-2 days packed with gaming, what's not to love?


Seconded. I've only been to three tournaments (all of them local, nothing major like 'Ard Boyz, which I've somehow missed for two years); one Apocalypse (where my "partner" was worse than any of my opponents in terms of sportsmanship), and two 1,500 point ones (both had great opponents and good scenarios; can't complain at all about them). My only complaint about any of the tournies I've been to is my own tactical failings, and the fact that my dice decided to do nothing but roll 1's when I brought my Deathwing to the last one.

I can say the worst sport I've ever met was the aforementioned "partner" I had at a local Apoc. tournament. This guy played Marines and glorified them like they were the best things in the world. He'd say stuff like "lol Guard suck they're cowards and they die easy" while hiding all of his Marines in buildings that somehow, I never, by his estimation, had line of sight to (even though I was getting shot at through them). He always scattered on target and never let me see his dice when he rolled anything. And the last game we played (I was still learning, only knew the old Guard 'dex at the time, and knew nothing about the Marine one), he proceeded to wipe me...after bringing in an extra 2000 points worth of stuff. I knew something was up when he had as many Marines on the table as I did Guardsmen at 1,500, never mind the Termies and Land Raiders. And he complained that I never left cover...well, I ran cameleoline Guard back in the day, so, no way I'm leaving cover!

And he used soda can drop pods while insisting that I had to remain WYSIWYG. I let all of this slide, knowing that he was leaving our FLGS and probably wasn't coming back.

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Not a specific thing in general....

However, I absolutely hate list tailoring... If you know your opponent ahead of time tailoring a list is just bad sportsmanship all around...

Im not talking a shutdown magic list or something. Im talking about someone who knows there opponent and makes there list specifically to cream that person the one time they play them.


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See,i always bring my knife to my flgs,when people see it clipped to my skinny jeans,and they can see the outline of it,they are a litte bit nicer to me.

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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Oh yeah. I've also experienced extremely bad sportsmanship from people not even playing.

Like pointing out my plans, and telling my opponent how to get out of it.

Or tipping off my next opponent as to what I have in my list.

Neither are even vaguely acceptable when the game is between two people of roughly equal skill. Yet both seem to happen in every game I play.


I hate when people do this.
I have one to add, I hate when your opponent starts losing and starts to ignore the game and walk away from the table constantly.



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Playing in a tournament. Paired with a Space Wolf player infamous at the store for his cheating and front to back movement. I'm running a double lash list with mech Thousand Sons. I move my Prince into assault range of a blood claw unit and lash it. My opponent won't let me touch his models to move them for lash, which is fine, so I ask him,

"Can you stretch them out in a line with the powerfists in the front of the line (4th ed.)?"

Now they clearly have enough movement to do it. He says "No" just straight up, doesn't try to argue that Lash can't change the formation of unit or anything he just refuses to do it.

He does the exact same thing when I try to bunch up another Blood Claw squad to hit them with a Battle Cannon shot. He actually tried to space them out more when he moved them. All the while he refuses to let me touch his models. I ashamed to say I was a massive wuss back then and let him get away with it.

He eventually was banned from the store when he placed a large order through the store (something like $300) then didn't pick it up for weeks. Then when he finally did show up he decided he didn't want to pay for it.

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ShivanAngel wrote:Not a specific thing in general....

However, I absolutely hate list tailoring... If you know your opponent ahead of time tailoring a list is just bad sportsmanship all around...

Im not talking a shutdown magic list or something. Im talking about someone who knows there opponent and makes there list specifically to cream that person the one time they play them.



At my FLGS, this is *very* in the spirit of the game. Knowing your opponent, knowing how they play...and trying to build a list to surprise/outthink them. With my IG, I try to throw new lists at some of the better players for this very reason.

Exploit their weaknesses, and run with what I do well.

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I could post the full story, but I've done it about three times already, so cliff notes version:

Friend played Necrons at my house, but used my Tau as proxy (I was starting Wolves at the time). One of my squads forced two commanders and two squads of Necron Warriors off the board turn 2, he threw my Crisis Suit across the table in frustration. I pack up, he eventually forgets, and funnily enough, starts using the Tau in our current league as an actual Tau army.

Best sportsmanship that I've seen thus far is actually a pretty minor/simple thing (which may be saying something about us as a group). I just recall one time when I was watching a game of Blood Angels vs. Marines, and the BA player started to measure back to front. As soon as he put the model down, he put it back and said "No, wait, can't do back to front, sorry about that." and doesn't move the model at all. I just thought it was cool of him.

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