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I once had someone who is known in the store as a good player and painter play me and a friend, we were just joking around with my tau army, my friends daemon hunters army and his black templars army and though i knew he'd win as soon as he got me in close combat which he did, he charged my fire warriors so i charged some randomly equipped crisis suits ( i was new at the time and didn't take the time to decide what i took just put random bits and pieces) at his dreadnought (4th edition game) for fun. we decided it was a draw because he had to get home and the store was closing soon, we packed up our armies and as i was putting my last crisis suit away he said to someboy (cant remember who but they were talking about the game) "he made a really stupid move charging is crisis suit at my dreadnought when they had fusion blasters ha ha ha." i was so shocked at the fact that he was mocking me even though he KNEW i was new to the game i'm still his friend but i'm still ANNOYED about it.

Used to play Space Marine (epic) with a few friends. One guy's Eldar titans always used to kick ass with one particular weapon (can't remember the name), with a fearsome 150cm range.

After a couple of years of this, someone looked closely at his book, and saw the 1 in front of the 50cm was pencilled in...

Grr!

@ Slinky.

that man is in need of a crotch punch.

Grunt13 wrote:
Well the tyranid player offered to let me take my armor saves and put back the surviving models. I really appreciated the offer, but declined realizing that the player completed his shooting and assault turns with the impression that the unit had been destroyed and it would be unfair to him to return the unit to the game. My game before him was against a win at any cost kind of guy who once demanded I end my movement phase because I placed a flamer template by my haemonculus after moving him, I picked up the template and put by him so I could find it in the shooting phase – 80% of a movement phase thrown out due to my compulsive need for organization. Well the tyranid player’s gesture restored my faith in fair competition when it was at a low point.

If the template was next to the model... I can see this being an issue actually.... there are alot of players that will cheat by puting the template there and then moving the unit again to get better range. This is called premeasuring and is not allowed... I would not consider this a WaAC move....

however if you asked him before doing it and he said yes... then called that crap... I'd agree it was a D@#K move....

you should make a marker of somekind to avoid this in the future... like a guy on fire or something like that!

Another event with the 14 year old and the hyped up Tyrannids. My Executioner killed his only Synapse squad (3 warriors) and that sent most of his gaunts running. I roasted his genestealers with an Incenerator and my GK Grand Master passed his psychic test and annihlated his Carnifex (God bless Nemesis Weapons). He made up every single rule to prevent his Carni dying but to no success. A Turn 2 win resulting in another tantrum!

Worst sportsman ship ive seen hmm probably at my local gw I was playing my orks against some guys Nids, while my boys were running across the field with my big mek with the 5+ inv save thing he shot anything he had on me, didn't lose one boy (he failed at shooting,wounding or me making saves.) When I assaulted his dakka tryant tyrant died the first round. When he removes his tyrant he starts to scream and his hand spazzes out and breaks some of my boys (Like a arm) and throws his tryant into the box (A redshirt asks him to leave in which he storms off) Also its how i got my nickname

frgsinwntr wrote:

Grunt13 wrote:
Well the tyranid player offered to let me take my armor saves and put back the surviving models. I really appreciated the offer, but declined realizing that the player completed his shooting and assault turns with the impression that the unit had been destroyed and it would be unfair to him to return the unit to the game. My game before him was against a win at any cost kind of guy who once demanded I end my movement phase because I placed a flamer template by my haemonculus after moving him, I picked up the template and put by him so I could find it in the shooting phase – 80% of a movement phase thrown out due to my compulsive need for organization. Well the tyranid player’s gesture restored my faith in fair competition when it was at a low point.

If the template was next to the model... I can see this being an issue actually.... there are alot of players that will cheat by puting the template there and then moving the unit again to get better range. This is called premeasuring and is not allowed... I would not consider this a WaAC move....

however if you asked him before doing it and he said yes... then called that crap... I'd agree it was a D@#K move....

you should make a marker of somekind to avoid this in the future... like a guy on fire or something like that!

I place the template next to the model after I moved my squad, so I wasn't using it for measuring. The player stated I had moved on to my shooting phase because I picked up the template. He had a point, so I didn't fight him on it. It was just a careless act on my part that cost me. I still felt it was a little harsh for a subconscious gesture

The player stated I had moved on to my shooting phase because I picked up the template.

That's just silly. Nothing forces you to start shooting because you pick up a template.

Indeed, it's a dick move if I ever heard one. It's obvious you weren't trying to cheat or anything.

Some of the best sportsmen have been the people that have continued to help me learn to play the game...from Day 1 when I tried shooting my soild shot Hammerhead Railgun at a Tac Squad, up to a game I play two weeks ago where I was tabled by Turn 5's beginning.

The patience and understanding of these people has helped keep me in the hobby.

Well I can remember my first game of fantasy. I was playing orcs and was facing off against beast of chaos. This was back when they had the box of magic game dont remeber what edition. Well the chaos guy decides to go second and I really didnt know what I was doing so he was helping me out some. I had Azarg the slaughter model and he told me to fly high with him so i could land behind him the next turn. So I did and low and behold he decides to fly high with his lord that was on foot. Since I didnt know the rules very good I thought it was legal cause of him playing chaos. Long story short he killed me in the air which I didnt understand how since he never rolled any dice for attacks and what not. From that game I learned never trust your opponent.

Ouch. That's low.

Yeeeeeeea. Thats a dick move if Ive ever heard of one

I've only just remembered this event although it happened last year:

I was playing an Apoc game at GW Brighton to celebrate the new IG releases, and the basis of the game was to kill as many regular IG as possible, and every guardsman you killed you got 1p off your Games Day Ticket. Anyway, I'm playing the game and I decide to indirectly fire my Basilisks over about 30" of terrain and hit this guy's Stormsword. He has a massive fit saying he should have a cover save from a Valkyrie about 18" in front of the Stormsword, claiming that the Basilisks are firing directly and would get a save from the Valk. I argue that by firing indirectly, the shots are coming from above and wouldnt hit the Valk. Eventually, this 60 year-old guy has a fit and throws a tantrum and throws his dice all across the table, shouting at the top of his voice to get attention. I still destroyed the Stormsword and the Valk using Infernus anyway.
If he was any other guy I would have given him the benefit of the doubt, but this guy had grown so arrogant because he had saves about 50p off his ticket.

I have one myself, today, that I am quite proud of.

I was at my FLGS, and was picking up a box of Sternguard, and since I was the only customer at the counter, I quickly went to grab three jars of paints (Gore Red, Tau Sept Ochre, and Chaos Black...my army colors <3 ) while the employee was ringing up my purchase. As he handed me my receipt to sign, it came up as just shy of $10. I noticed that the Sternguard was set aside with the paints, yet clearly hadn't been rung up.

Although the idea of a free box of Sternguard was tempting, I let the employee know that he had made a mistake, and proceeded to sign on a $50 receipt.

Good for you!

Although stolen miniatures are cursed miniatures anyways.

@Che-Vito: Not exactly sure if it's sprotmanship, but it was certainly a very noble thing that ya did there, mate!

Hurrah and huzzah for honesty!

I played a game this afternoon at the Hobby Centre in Chiba. My opponent, the regulars and the staff were all beyond top-drawer. A+ in every category. If only they had more space and used proper inches...

Agamemnon2 wrote:
I think "reprehensible" is an almost comically overstated term for this situation. It's not like he's cooking up meth in his basement or invading Poland. He's excercising his right, as a player, to forfeit a game. Letting people forfeit only when they're completely and utterly defeated serves no purpose other than to breed resentment in the victim. You're forcing him to do something he doesn't want to do. The fact of his not wanting to play games to the turn limit may be a problem, but it cannot be solved by such strongarm tactics.

In the overwhelming majority of cases, players who forfeit do so for perfectly sound reasons, even if they might not be apparent to their opponents. I've seen (and indeed have done) forfeits on the first turn of an MTG game, following a gross mis-play or outrageous luck of the draw. In such circumstances, the opponent has no right to gainsay that decision. The player playing the deck, or the 40k army, or what-have-you, knows what they need to win, and knows when those conditions are no longer likely to occur.

You don't have to like it. All you're required to do is sit there, take the victory, and cope. Even shaking their hand is optional. You're under no obligation to play them again, either. But what you don't get to do is tell them how to play their army.

I totally and utterly disagree with this setiment. If your going to belly up to the table, you have a social contract to play the freaking game. Running off at the first sign of losing is utterly bad sportsmenship.

There are times to forfeit a game- any orc and goblin player who's hat that turn one or two rout of 3/4 of his army from a single panic test knows the feeling, or a nasty alpha strike before you go from an IG player. But forfeiting on turn 3 as the opponent gets to finally get a chance to make his mark after you had two turns of beating on them? Yeah no.






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ph34r wrote:I agree with Timmah. If you want to forfeit, you should be able to. I would consider it rude to refuse to allow an opponent to forfeit. If they are not having fun there should no nothing keeping them in the game.

So its "fun" for you to shoot up your opponent, but as soon as your opponent starts to get back in the game or the upper hand, you quit.

Thats your defination of fun? Remind me never to play you.

I've seen enough crappy attitudes, but nothing really stands out.

Good stuff?

At my first RT, during the second round, I was playing Space Wolves vs Tau (back in third edition...) and proceeded to pound his army into the dirt. I tried to keep the game light-hearted, but it's difficult seeing every model swept from the board by round 3 and still have fun so I was starting to worry that my sportsmanship score was going to take a dive.

During my third round I got to see the view my second round opponent did as the guy's Nurgle Marines proceeded to march over my wolves like they weren't there. We kept laughing at how horrible my rolls were and how the scenario was the biggest killer. We had a blast even as I was routed without taking out a single squad (actually, I'm pretty sure he could count all the modes he lost on one hand).

Sometimes your the bug.. sometimes you're the windshield.

In the end, I didn't have to worry about my second round players as I had perfect sportsmanship scores for all three rounds and ended up taking the grand champion prize. I really wasn't that interested in playing the game much, but that RT, and all three of my opponents, made it all worth it. Would love to get back to games that were that much fun...

Che-Vito wrote:Iwhile the employee was ringing up my purchase. As he handed me my receipt to sign, it came up as just shy of $10. I noticed that the Sternguard was set aside with the paints, yet clearly hadn't been rung up.

Although the idea of a free box of Sternguard was tempting, I let the employee know that he had made a mistake, and proceeded to sign on a $50 receipt.

Dude,are you crazy ?

Farmer wrote:

Che-Vito wrote:Iwhile the employee was ringing up my purchase. As he handed me my receipt to sign, it came up as just shy of $10. I noticed that the Sternguard was set aside with the paints, yet clearly hadn't been rung up.

Although the idea of a free box of Sternguard was tempting, I let the employee know that he had made a mistake, and proceeded to sign on a $50 receipt.

Dude,are you crazy ?

I would argue that anyone that spends a large amount on toy soldiers, must be.

Valkyrie wrote:I've only just remembered this event although it happened last year:

I was playing an Apoc game at GW Brighton to celebrate the new IG releases, and the basis of the game was to kill as many regular IG as possible, and every guardsman you killed you got 1p off your Games Day Ticket. Anyway, I'm playing the game and I decide to indirectly fire my Basilisks over about 30" of terrain and hit this guy's Stormsword. He has a massive fit saying he should have a cover save from a Valkyrie about 18" in front of the Stormsword, claiming that the Basilisks are firing directly and would get a save from the Valk. I argue that by firing indirectly, the shots are coming from above and wouldnt hit the Valk. Eventually, this 60 year-old guy has a fit and throws a tantrum and throws his dice all across the table, shouting at the top of his voice to get attention. I still destroyed the Stormsword and the Valk using Infernus anyway.
If he was any other guy I would have given him the benefit of the doubt, but this guy had grown so arrogant because he had saves about 50p off his ticket.

dude thats my local store!

if you go there regularly do you rememberwhen apoc was released? that massive game was the best!

I for one never will forfeit a game for any reason. I play just for fun anyways. If I'm running out of time or I clearly wont win I just do silly ridiculous things for sheer laughs and just joke with the other player. It ends up just being a really fun game, which I think is the point of the whole thing anyways.

There are sometimes good reasons for forfeiting.

There are also sometimes bad reasons for forfeiting.

OP: I know of whom you speak. My friends and I refer to him as the fabled "Nid Kid". It must have been two winters ago, on my Tau playing friend's birthday. We were unable to go the GW store very often because of how far away we lived from it, so this was a special occasion. Our group had him, a Necron player, a Space Marines player, and myself, a Chaos player. There was an amazing board, a massive ruined temple. The four of us began a game on it, Tau and Chaos vs Space Marines and Necrons. The game was going fine, until at about turn 2, Nid Kid decided that he had to join the game. Without even asking us, he just deploys his Tyranids in the perfect place to assault. The game goes by, and Nid Kid was on the winning side. He was ecstatic and wouldn't shut up.

His models looked awful. The ones that were painted were basically done with a massive brush, with no scheme in mind but "BLUE ON THIS SIDE RED ON THIS ONE IT LOOKS GOOD".

Probably his most memorable quote was spoken when he saw my Obliterator, a metal model which I had yet to paint. He asked me, "Why'd you paint it silver?". Legendary. Truly legendary.

Sadly and thankfully, we have never seen him since because a GW store opened up very close to us about a year ago.

My first time playing 40K i got started at a "friends" house. I say "friend" because he was actually an @*$, i played as his chaos space marines and he played as tyranids, i didn't know how the whole points thing worked , he took advantage of that and gave himself 2 carnifexes , 50 gaunts and like 20 warriors when i had 2 tactical squads and a captain. He won and just started laughing at me. I refused to play again and we eventually lost touch. never much liked him in the first place...

LRValhalla... I think I might just have to put that did you paint it silver thing into my signature... its just like... wow... really?

Haven't got any bad ones but a good one i did recently. I was going to my FLGS and apon arrival a young boy of ten had bought a battleforce with money from his parents for his birthday but he had his heart set on the sterngaurd so i pick up a box and go to the till when he sees me buy them he looks like he is going to burst into tears but i present him with the sterngaurd and say "happy birthday". I walked out of the shop and he just stood there amazed.