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That is true, except some of the guys we were there with had played him before in the ard boyz, and he is a weasel. Turbo boost ravenwing bikes in the movement phase and then try for deathwing assault etc.

Also, all his son did was sleep, daddy played both armies for him. I can understand if he was helping his son get started, but this kid put zero effort into the game.

In my early years of 40K I lost almost every game. It was to the point where people would mark a point on their card when they saw I was their opponent, even before we played. And while I got a lot of jerks who took great pride in stomping a kid, there where just as many guys who would beat me and take the time to explain why they beat me. For them to not hold back and to take the time to teach me, that was the best thing they could have done for me.

On the negative side, I played a kid (10/11) with Orks on my FLGS tourny who was not really into actually measuring when he moved or shot, but made sure to double check my moves and shots every time, just to make sure I wasn't cheating.
At one point he was making a moral check and rolled a 6 for a 8 man mob. He started to fall back. I told him about mob rule, and he proceeded to call me a "god damn idiot who don't know nuttin 'bout Orks". At which point I opened my Ork codex to show him the rule. He then kicked the table, which made the legs fold back, which sent half the table crashing to the floor. Really glad half my stuff hadnt come in yet.

Also, anyone who complains about space marines when they loose. I mean really.

Worst I've seen, is an old rules thousand sons army (nothing under str 4 can hurt them) playing against my all guardsmen army with maby 2 las cannons, 2 heavy bolters, and 2 plasma and melta guns. I was about 9 or 10 at the time and he was 25-30 looking for an easy win.

Best is same army different player, ignored the str 4 rule.

the next day I bought a LRBT

I've been fortunate to have pretty good opponents overall. The worst ones were people who, when I outmaneuvered them and commenced the curb-stomping, seemed to be just milliseconds from bursting into tears.

THERE'S NO CRYING IN 40K!


When I first got into the game back in the day, I was fortunate to have a lot of people that played completely different armies that were mostly good players. They'd teach me their tricks and it wasn't long before I climbed from a consistent last place in tournies, to 3rd. I think the first time I placed top 3 in a tournament against a bunch of adults when I was like 12 was one of the best feelings in the world.

combatmedic wrote:
At one point he was making a moral check and rolled a 6 for a 8 man mob. He started to fall back. I told him about mob rule, and he proceeded to call me a "god damn idiot who don't know nuttin 'bout Orks". At which point I opened my Ork codex to show him the rule. He then kicked the table, which made the legs fold back, which sent half the table crashing to the floor. Really glad half my stuff hadnt come in yet.

Well if it only had 8 orks left he shouldve had to taken the test as he did right? Or did you mistype the story... Or am I misunderstanding? BLOODY HELL IVE CONFUSED MYSELF!

Buttlerthepug wrote:

combatmedic wrote:
At one point he was making a moral check and rolled a 6 for a 8 man mob. He started to fall back. I told him about mob rule, and he proceeded to call me a "god damn idiot who don't know nuttin 'bout Orks". At which point I opened my Ork codex to show him the rule. He then kicked the table, which made the legs fold back, which sent half the table crashing to the floor. Really glad half my stuff hadnt come in yet.

Well if it only had 8 orks left he shouldve had to taken the test as he did right? Or did you mistype the story... Or am I misunderstanding? BLOODY HELL IVE CONFUSED MYSELF!

A 6 passes for an 8-man orc squad, so he didn't have to fall back. The kid thought he did have to fall back, and he was being a nice guy and explaining to him that he passed.

Exterminatus 2009

TFGuy was playing a GORGEOUS Army. Absolutely fantastically painted. the display board alone must have taken weeks to do. Playing a buddy of mine on the next table when i hear this:

(My buddy)..and that's all i got...your move man.

(TFG) What did you say to me?

(My friend) I said it's your turn

(TFG) I dont appreciate your tone...

what? what are you talking about..i just said it's your turn man...get over yourself

(TFG) You better watch how you talk to people man..you may get some learning in the parking lot after the game...

at this point in time my friend tells him to jump, and get the T.O.

TFG is bounced from the tourney later.

Funniest part, my friend was an Alabama State Trooper had his badge on him and everything...

CapNCaveman! wrote:Exterminatus 2009

TFGuy was playing a GORGEOUS Army. Absolutely fantastically painted. the display board alone must have taken weeks to do. Playing a buddy of mine on the next table when i hear this:

(My buddy)..and that's all i got...your move man.

(TFG) What did you say to me?

(My friend) I said it's your turn

(TFG) I dont appreciate your tone...

what? what are you talking about..i just said it's your turn man...get over yourself

(TFG) You better watch how you talk to people man..you may get some learning in the parking lot after the game...

at this point in time my friend tells him to jump, and get the T.O.

TFG is bounced from the tourney later.

Funniest part, my friend was an Alabama State Trooper had his badge on him and everything...

Why do I envision TFG as being a middle aged over-weight male with a bald top and pony tail trying to act tough to a state trooper?

Im not the only one right?

No one knew he was a cop. until after. hahahahaha

he was white, middle aged, slightly overwieght, camo pants with a crew cut.

was priceless.

My image was more of a 98 year old with a grimacing ork tatooed on his bald head. Is it just me?

The best case of sportsman ship I've heard of was from my friend. He can be a bit wierd at times, and some things (mostly jerks) can set him off. In a big tourney, he brought his undead army and was up for the finals. All he needed was a draw and he'd be in with a chance.
First turn, his lord miscasts, kills himself, and his entire army crumbles. ...He luaghed, shook the guys hand and said "Don't know how you pulled that off, but you've gotta show me sometime."

A recent example of bad sportsmanship was when we organized a sort of HQ battle for the little uns. This kid with the most ANNOYING voice acted like he knew everything, and was really TFG. Not young, not inexperienced, but simply TFG. He bragged about how his Space Marine captain (from Black Reach) was going to pwn all the other players single handedly. One of the other kids apparently gets sick of it, and shoots the guy with his lascannon. BLAMO, and the captain is dead.

The TFG kid stares blankly at the (now dead) SM captain. And actually says "No. He can't be dead. He CAN'T be dead. Nothing can kill him!"

I discreetly (well, sorta) land the other kid a high-five.

Emperors Faithful wrote:A recent example of bad sportsmanship was when we organized a sort of HQ battle for the little uns. This kid with the most ANNOYING voice acted like he knew everything, and was really TFG. Not young, not inexperienced, but simply TFG. He bragged about how his Space Marine captain (from Black Reach) was going to pwn all the other players single handedly. One of the other kids apparently gets sick of it, and shoots the guy with his lascannon. BLAMO, and the captain is dead.

The TFG kid stares blankly at the (now dead) SM captain. And actually says "No. He can't be dead. He CAN'T be dead. Nothing can kill him!"

I discreetly (well, sorta) land the other kid a high-five.

I had the same sort of thing happenat my FLGS a few years back. I was playing against a guy he must have been 20 or so and I was 11 or 12, he was using an DE archon with shadow feild (2+ invul save till he fails it) and was claiming how bad ass the character was and that it couldent be killed. I was playing DH with IG allies so I hit the guys raider with a lascannon or something that this thing was in with its retinue. killed 2 or 3 of his incubi. Then hit the squad with a battle cannon to kill off the rest of hte incubi and perhaps try and make him fail the omgwtf invul save, which he easily passed. To which he said I would have to do better than that and laughed at me.

I asked the kid if the archon had better than a 4+ save which he said no but he has a 2+ invul save which in his opinion makes him completely invincible and that I shouldent even bother to try and kill it. At this point I get a very large smile across my face. The guy's rants on how unkillable this guy is has atracted a crowd wondering how I'm going to defeat this thing.

After I finish all of hte rest of my shooting and he thinks his precious character is safe from the leigon of lasguns that would be his downfall, I point at my Grand master, declare hes shooting his psi cannon at the archon and promptly vapourises it. The guy after all his claims and bragging that this one model is going to kill my whole army, starts to yell and scream at me. I told him it was just a game and he should calm down before he gets banned from the store. He responded by grabbing all his models and shoving them back into his case without putting htem in the slots. Closed it up with a lot of crunching and snapping. This pissed him off more and tryed to blame me for destroying his models and demanded that I payed him restitutions for the destroyed models, when I said I wouldent he promtly grabed a handful of my guardsmen threw them on the floor and crushed them underfoot.

Cops were called, bad things happened (I think they maced him), and I ended up with a new platoon of guardsmen courtesy of the store.

heh. I versed my friend archaon with the 2+ invo, and although his entire amry pretty much OD'ed on drugs, that one guy kept living to tear through my entire army. We both thought that even he wasn't going to surivive 3 turns of footslogging through shooting from IG AND proceeding to kill each and everyone of them.

Not a single one. Never.

We both lol'ed as he singlehandedly killed off nearly one hundred IG models.

I long time ago I won overall at a GW store. i whooped the crap out of those little kids and showed no mercy. They are now stronger for that. I would have asked for the list and told them they were full of crap. Then caught them cheating and auto won and then donkey balled them.

Just me tho.

*facepalm*

Apparently I'm an example of Best Sportsmanship, as I was awarded that very title at a tournament last Saturday. "The man who loves to lose..." was what immediately preceeded the announcement of my name.

First game, lost 80% of my Mech Eldar army on the first turn against an extremely lucky/accurate Imperial artillery army.

Second game... well, I stomped an Ork army. I don't think this kid voted me.

Third game, very close triple objective game against a MSU Slaaneshii Daemon army.

Fourth game, central objective against Mech Plague Marines. Being far from a position at the end of the day, I bladestormed, and then charged, a Doom/Guided unit of them just for a laugh. It didn't work.

LOL "The man who loves to lose..."

(Mabye you should sig that? )

Worst? we have a regular player, whom how can i put it? has the social skills of a slug. every time we play, he yells when he misses a save, or throws things, gets abusive, you name it.
so ive had to stop playing with him.
Best? the boys from upper austria ( a provice if you dont know, we have provicial torunments every year.)
no matter what place they are in,winning or loosing, they are always courteous, helpful and bring gifts, for their apponents, i had mentioned that i had 2 sons a few years ago, and low and behold every year they bring lollypops for them. now thats what i call real sportsmen.

Sinister Brain wrote:So I'm using a friends not so greatly painted Dark Eldar to learn the game and have some fun while I build/paint my army.
My worst sportsmanship thing happened tonight infact. I was playing a guy who people at the store have said is a pretty good player (IG).
Now all the people I've played against so far and all the people I've seen play have always been cool with asking questions about their army.
"What does that do?" "How far can that charge?" etc....
Since I'm new to the game I ask a lot of questions so I guess people think I'm dumb or something. I've been wargaming a long time but 40k is new. I'm not a tactical idiot.
He gets more and more snotty with me as I ask him questions and question his moves. Thankfully there's a few people there to call BS on a couple of his moves and honestly I made a few mistakes on moves as well. The difference is I welcome people pointing stuff out because, I'm learning the rules still.
So I think it was turn 4 maybe? I basically position myself and crush the left flank of his army. He gets so pissed after blowing several rolls he picks up his Chimera and wings it across the table at me. It shattered the other ravager I had sitting infront of me and several models and hits me in the chest and side of the head (I was ducking). He then starts kicking the table when people finally start to grab him. Damn thing actually drew blood when it hit me.
It only happened a couple of hours ago and I still can't believe it. Having a cow because your wee toy soldiers died? Some people have definitely lost the plot. "Have fun" apparently is code for "Psychotic nerd-rage" now.

Wow,what a F***ing idiot,jesus christ some people really need to learn its only a game.

It's sad enough having to explain to my soical worker why i've got models all over the place,nevermind nerds raging like mad.

I hope that guy got banned for life.

The best sportsmanship ive experienced was when i was young and collecting tau (being the noob i was). There was a campaign on and i had non of my mates playing(at the time) so i got my nerves up and asked a regular for a game, he said yes and i verusd his wraithlord elder (4th edition codex being used), enough to say it was a close game i just won with a firewarrior squad left, and when we shook hands one of the staff members (who has a massive tau army) goes up to us and says, hey kid you do realise your army is roughy 300 points over the the limit (1,000pt game) i checked it out and he was right /facepalm. I freaked out a felt really bad/ashamed, but the guy i verused said it was fine and helped me work on the army list and still gave me the win. nice guy...

Bad sportsmanship was a TFG cheating on the same tourney, he pupstomped kids who didnt know the rules and was accused of cheating, (for example and i saw this, his hive tyrant did a physic move, and the kid asked what it was, TFG said it was a large template physic move with str10 ap1, he destroyed the kids unit/s by making gak up, i went up to him and told him he was wrong he replied "Stfu you dont know gak about tyranids.") he was a dick and a TFG rolled together into 1 giant douche, thankfully he got banned from the store.

My worst is I was facing an all foot IG army in an RTT with my Wych Cult. I see his list and start thinking he will set up the old gunline on his board edge and shoot me off of the table ( I would have). Instead he sets up as far forward as he can and for the first three turns moves everyone forward. I explained to him that the 2 units I had on the table were Web Way Portal carriers and my reserves are stacking up until I open them. I also made sure he knew that everyone coming on the board is in a Raider. His reply was that IG are the same STR and Toughness as my girls and since he has the numbers he can take me in HtH. Needless to say on turn 4 my last unit made it's reserve roll so I popped the portals and the only unit he had remaining on the board after that was his command squad in a far corner. The Disintegrator missed.

Guy was so pissed he packed his army to leave. The TO talked him into staying but he spent the rest of the day complaining about how overpowering Dark Eldar are and shouldn't be allowed in RTTs. To top it all off he gave me zeros for sportsmanship and comp.

Hawkins wrote:Best? the boys from upper austria ( a provice if you dont know, we have provicial torunments every year.)
no matter what place they are in,winning or loosing, they are always courteous, helpful and bring gifts, for their apponents,

Beware of Upper Austrians that bare gifts. This is usually succeeded by a pounding.

GG

Not really a bad sportmanship example I dont think, but I was TFG just messing around.

The local GW store had just gotten the new IG codex in as a store promo copy. The manager had started bragging that he had written the worlds baddest army list that would wreck all opponents hobbies.

I told him that my orks and I would eat his list.
He said something 'impolite'.

I literally ate his list on the spot.
" I told you me and me boyz would eat your list."

JonnyDelta wrote:Not really a bad sportmanship example I dont think, but I was TFG just messing around.

The local GW store had just gotten the new IG codex in as a store promo copy. The manager had started bragging that he had written the worlds baddest army list that would wreck all opponents hobbies.

I told him that my orks and I would eat his list.
He said something 'impolite'.

I literally ate his list on the spot.
" I told you me and me boyz would eat your list."

No thats not a bad sports. Thats just funny. Its only a list, no models got hurt....

I would say that my first tourny was the worst that I had seen, and the best I had seen, or more so most satisfying. I was using DA and the first match was against a chaos army, this was back in third. It was a 1500 point tourny and I noticed something odd... we deployed our armies, and I realized that he had nearly TRIPLE the amount of units I had on the board. Not to mention, he had special char's such as Chainssaw-face aka Kharn, and another I cant remember. I asked a TO to check his math as this just couldnt be possible, needless to say his points came to something around 3200, and he blamed excell for not adding things properly, which is definetly possible, but how do you not notice that that looks wrong?

Anyways, he threw a hissey-fit when the TO told him he had 15 min to rewrite his list, which he complained but proceeded to do, and I played someone else in the meantime. I won, he apparently won against his opponent, and we were forced to battle anyway. I had first turn, one shotted his LR with a lascannon first turn, and he quit claiming I cheated.

The TO was already sorda annoyed at this kid, so said listen, your not going to be allowed to play if you do this, so the kid played. I beat him in the long run, since neither of us had the objective but I had more KP. I swear he almost tried to fight my buddy four or five times he was quietly but noticeably chuckling behind me the whoooollee game. It was a wierd day.

Bad sportsman there are 3 stories ashamedly one involving myself....


Number 1:There was this kid would play as all the latest armies would always get "daddy" to pay for all the latest models to cut a story short he would always belittle and shout his mouth off during games going "OH YEA EAT IT" and "CRAPPY LITTLE MARINES!".It really used to piss me right off.!
Number 2: Game my Crimson Ravens Vs Tyranids now the army was legal "Tyranids" but the first loop hole came when the kid knocked my dice during iniative roll I roll again and he does it again claiming it was accident and he has first turn.Second a unit of Gaunts last ed 3rd ed codex I think before fleet of claw runs "24 across the board.At this point I go "I cant do this your cheating" the kid gestures as if to say yea "Come get some" I get Black shirt over and he promptly throws out kid and his chavvy gang for threatening violence and just taking the piss!.
Number: The shameful story I was playing my good friend (Who now manages Cribbs Causeway store) he was playing Eldar and I was playing my Crimson Ravens it was top of last turn and I was losing badly kid from number 1 was looking snide and going "Your going to lose" "hes going to kick your ass" I snap and go "feth OFF YOU LITTLE gak! STOP BACKSEAT GAMING JEEZ RUNT!" I get stares from around the table you know awkward silence someone pips up and goes "Hes fifteen dude" It was well awkward I felt as If I should pack up my minis I played through though and got my sound thrashing I deserved.Suffice to say I live in the comfort my niece punched his teeth in when they were in School (Unrelated incident) and that he got banned (For being a dick (lifetime ban from Horsefair and Cribbs *smug*.


Good Sportsman

Id say the kid with auspergers syndrome best damned game Id ever had against his Chaos army he was so attentive to the game saying "Do you need more time to sort out your army list" and "Yea that dice is cocked I'll roll again" and just a pleasure to play.Had more of a sense of Sportsmanship then others.
Another was Playing LOTRs with a kid I soundly thrashed at Cribbs he was a bloody good regular opponent threw a benny at Cribbs when I beat his Orks but loaned me some Moria Goblins to play in a mini tournament top little chap.Was rather infuriated to hear he was beaten up by some stupid gangbanger Chav wanabees and put off the hobby tis sad.

I played a massive four-player game that was set up to follow a script. It was three eldar armies, Uthwe, Biel Tan, and Dark eldar verse imperial guard and chaos with tyranids joining in to make a real brawl out of the whole thing. The battle was set at 6500 points – bare in mind that this was way before Apocalypse came out.

Of the players I had the three eldar forces at least model wise. The other player fielded both the chaos and imperial guard as both armies were his. The two other players were going to show up two hours after we started playing. One was a tyranid player and the other was his younger brother who was new to the game, did not possess an army, and was interested in trying out eldar.

Base on this I came up with the idea of creating 1200-point Biel tan force for the younger brother to play. And the older could play tyranids that would enter the game via the old CA tyranid deepstrike force, he would be a free agent attacking whomever he wanted. We decided that the biel-tan force and the tyranids would enter the game on the third turn reasoning that’s the point the game would have reached when the two brothers arrived. The chaos player had a baneblade, it used pre-apocalypse rules that I think was even tougher then their modern set.

Well the chaos player was just horrible.

Because of his excruciating slow deployment and turn taking we were still on turn 1 when the two brothers arrived. Bare in mind that I was playing 5300 points verse 6500 as the biel-tan forces that would be controlled by the younger brother would be the other 1200 points missing from my force.

I suggested that the brothers enter then game on the 2nd turn so then do not have to wait through a whole another turn. The chaos player angrier shouted this idea down, as he felt strongly against me receiving the biel tan forces that would put us one a equal footing in terms of points. I had the foresight to create a mini-game with the last chancers hunting the red terror for the brothers to play –reasoning that they might have to wait a little for us if their arrived mid-turn. So we catered to the chaos player and the brothers played my mini-game three or four times and watched us play waiting for the third turn.

During the game I flew an empty raider in front of two basilisks and blocked their line of sight for direct targeting. The raider was soon destroyed and I placed a destroyed marker on top of it. The chaos player then goes about taking his turn, but starts to direct fire his basilisks. I stop him and inform him that my burning wreckage of my raider would block line of sight. He than argues that because the vehicle is destroyed he can see through it. He is very insistent on this concept. Unable to find in the rulebook were it says that you couldn’t shoot through destroyed vehicles – I had to dash up to my WD collection to pick up one with a battle report in which one player used his destroyed vehicles to block line of sight. Only then did the chaos player concede his argument. He indirect fired his tanks, and I kept silent on how in 3rd you were not allowed to fire indirectly after other units fired regularly.

I managed to assault his baneblade, which was a monster throughout the game, with my scorpions, the exarch armed with a powerfist and I believe the squad with haywires. When rolling for hits I mentioned that I auto-hit because the tank didn’t move during the chaos player’s last turn. At this the chaos player insisted that the tank did in fact move and swore on the lives of his parents. Now I was pretty sure that the tank didn’t move, but I was not sure enough to swear on my parents lives sure so I counted the tank as moving when rolling for hits. My scorps bombed the assault and the tank slaughtered them next turn – the tank only had one structure point left at the time of the assault.

Well my backup arrives with the kid who has the lion share of all my aspect warriors. He has shining spears, spiders, banshees, fire dragons and some other stuff. A falcon with a squad of fire dragons closes on the baneblade and finishes off the tank. The young player is thrilled at being the able to make such a large contribution to the game. So here comes the chaos player to rain on his parade. He goes on this whinny rant accusing me of rigging the game by making the biel-tan force with the sole purpose of destroying his super tank in mind. He starts on about how could he have possibly win the game if the there was a falcon with fire dragons arriving on the third turn. His tank definitely earned back its points in destruction of my forces and the tyranids, but he would not let go, he was apparently the victim of some form of villainous conspiracy to cheat him by killing his supposedly invincible baneblane.

Well the game ended with the tyranid player getting completely destroyed, he really had a misfortunate number of DP rolls combined with the chaos player placing his pie plates with perfect precision. The baneblade took out two squads of 16 genestealers in one shooting phase – a template over each on the turn they arrived and out of 32 hits not a single one to wound was rolled. When this happened the chaos players was practically dancing with joy and openly mocked the tyranid player while heaping praise on his tank. The eldar were victorious in the end. The chaos player whined throughout the game whenever something didn’t go his way and threaten to pack up and leave several times. It was only when we called him on it and told him to go if he wanted and we would just play a regular game between us, did he stop the threatening nonsense.

Anyway it is always amazing how one whiny player can ensure no one else can derive any enjoyment from a game. For a while after that I avoid playing large games as this one left me with a bitter taste.

First game i ever played. 1500 point generic marines vs a tau guy. This was back when tau first came out. He puts this huge piece of area terrain in the middle of the map. Like 3x4 feet. It does not block line of sight, but i move in difficult terrain. He won the game killing half my stuff, I killed a shield drone. That guy was a gak.

There was this other necron kid that used to play at my LGS gaming leagues. Guy was the worst sportsman id ever seen. You play 6 games, against all unique opponents, end of the league whoever did the best wins a prize. This kid deep strikes his monolith, and it goes off the table. I LET him bring it on, but right on the table edge. Next turn i declare charges, forgetting to shoot my defiler. He says I cannot make that shooting up. When I tell him to remove the monolith then, he gets an attittude and explains how that battlecannon shot is much more important than his monolith dying. I win the game, got mad, and the gears started turning in my head. Gave him a serious curb stomping. I dont show up the next week Because that was my last game. 5 wins and 1 draw, I was far in the lead. I come back and find my score is erased. That fether had gone and told the organizers I was cheating. My cheating? 2 of the 3 champions in my chosen squad had demonic strength, 1 did not. The FAQ making that illegal, which i never saw, came out after I had played all my games. But the organizer was the above mentioned tau player. I didnt play there for a year, when they had new management.

m' dad versed a guy who seemed to do spectacularly well in all his rolls, which ofcourse he picked up before you could see the dice. He also seemed to have some mighty good upgrades for the points cost listed.

Best sportsmanship? 3-way games between my dad, me, and little brother are always good because we help eachother to extreme points.

Ouch @ Eidolon's tory, I feel sorry for you

Worst bad sport: Agreed to play a game reluctantly, thrashed me silly, pausing to insult my army choices regularily.

I play a brilliant game a couple of weeks ago however. He joked and laughed throughout - I won the game but he conceeded without a hint of annoyance. The game was great, more of a lively chat whilst rolling dice than a game - such fun.