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BobbaFett wrote:The latest Morat miniatures are way better than the first ones. CB should keep the mask in all the upcoming Morat units. They just look cooler when masked, because the baboon faces are not attractive.

By the way, I do not like the Morats as a competitive Army. IMHO they are the worst army.
Their skirmisher, Zerat, is the worst infiltrating unit.
Their para-troop, Rasyat, is too expensive in points cost to risk him with a combat jump.
Their line troop is expensive.
Sure they have some important points with their racial rules and good fireteams, but... If I go to a tournament with the ambition of winning... I will not use Morats.

haha I thought this exact same thing, the big thing they have for them though is staying power. In a kill mission that isn't horribly impressive, but when you throw missions into the mix with a single list tourney, you would be surprised.

BobbaFett wrote:The latest Morat miniatures are way better than the first ones. CB should keep the mask in all the upcoming Morat units. They just look cooler when masked, because the baboon faces are not attractive.

Haha that made me laugh

BobbaFett wrote:The latest Morat miniatures are way better than the first ones. CB should keep the mask in all the upcoming Morat units. They just look cooler when masked, because the baboon faces are not attractive.

Agreed, although the unmasked Yaogat actually look cool. Ugly doesn't need to be bad. The Locusts from Gears of War are a good example of cool and ugly.

Do you guys (who actually use any Morat units) prefer Yaogats or Kurgats? Or maybe you use them both? I do understand that engineers have a special role, but if you just compared their effectiveness in battle vs. points cost. Would you go with a Yaogat w. Panzerfaust or Kurgat with Autocannon for example?

If you take a Raicho then Kugats, if not then Yogurts.

Inanimate wrote:Do you guys (who actually use any Morat units) prefer Yaogats or Kurgats? Or maybe you use them both? I do understand that engineers have a special role, but if you just compared their effectiveness in battle vs. points cost. Would you go with a Yaogat w. Panzerfaust or Kurgat with Autocannon for example?

Any troop with the MSV L2 is essential to an army list. Yaogats for the WIN!

BobbaFett wrote:

Inanimate wrote:Do you guys (who actually use any Morat units) prefer Yaogats or Kurgats? Or maybe you use them both? I do understand that engineers have a special role, but if you just compared their effectiveness in battle vs. points cost. Would you go with a Yaogat w. Panzerfaust or Kurgat with Autocannon for example?

Any troop with the MSV L2 is essential to an army list. Yaogats for the WIN!

Good point. I'll place an order for a box of "Yogurts" then.

@BlueDagger:

Ok. I won't be fielding anything big to begin with. Is there even a model for the Raicho? Can't find anything. :S

Naw there is no model for it yet and prob won't be for a while. As per official tourney rules, if there is a hole in the model line you can proxy it with any similarly equipped/size model. Plus, who doesn't love having an Avatar around

BlueDagger wrote:Naw there is no model for it yet and prob won't be for a while. As per official tourney rules, if there is a hole in the model line you can proxy it with any similarly equipped/size model. Plus, who doesn't love having an Avatar around

I see. How big is that thing anyway? If that base is a 40 mm, then it looks to be close to 10-12 cm in height. It must look effing huge next to regular infantry.

Yes, both it and the Caskuda are incredibly large. They deserve all the fear their model invokes as well.

So I'm looking at Pan-O to start with here, specifically the Shock Army starter.
Game play is a secondary concern...realistically very secondary considering "time for gaming" slice on my daily schedule pie chart is invisible to the naked eye. Nevertheless, it's not something I want to ignore. Are Pan-O...boring? They don't seem to have the fun/tricky units that other factions do, just various levels of infantry.
Obviously this is me just looking at the unit descriptions, with no knowledge of the rules beyond some YouTube videos watched over a year ago.

Any Pan-O tid-bits (with a Shock Army starter slant) would be appreciated.

Hey Guys
Just got my second starter set of Infinity for a really great price from http://www.warbunka.com
They have free shipping to the UK as well at the moment!!

I was wondering does anyone else here play Infinity? If so has any one got suggestions for Terrain? As Infinity is a very tactical game relying on Terrain.
For anyone who has not heard of this game then check it out here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogtjm7UspSQ

Is there someplace online I can find the contents of the starter boxes pointed out?

A bunch of people at my FLGS are willing to give the game a shot, but I need to demo it for them.

I'm guessing all the starter box armies just have rifles of some sort, so I don't need to add points for the special weapons?

There are quite a few Infinity players on DakkaDakka.com.

souldrinker-blue wrote:Hey Guys
Just got my second starter set of Infinity for a really great price from http://www.warbunka.com
They have free shipping to the UK as well at the moment!!

I was wondering does anyone else here play Infinity? If so has any one got suggestions for Terrain? As Infinity is a very tactical game relying on Terrain.
For anyone who has not heard of this game then check it out here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogtjm7UspSQ

Great price? Looks like a pretty standard online retail price.....Maelstrom and Arcance do a similar price.....and with free shipping. Warbunka looks like a new webstore....with online stores, unless the bargains are VERY attractive, and once I disengage my "distrust" chip, I tend to stick to well known vendors.

Vertrucio wrote:Is there someplace online I can find the contents of the starter boxes pointed out?

A bunch of people at my FLGS are willing to give the game a shot, but I need to demo it for them.

I'm guessing all the starter box armies just have rifles of some sort, so I don't need to add points for the special weapons?

Head here to see pictures of all the different army's miniatures and it also has pictures of the starter boxes. http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/facciones/

Vertrucio wrote:Is there someplace online I can find the contents of the starter boxes pointed out?

A bunch of people at my FLGS are willing to give the game a shot, but I need to demo it for them.

I'm guessing all the starter box armies just have rifles of some sort, so I don't need to add points for the special weapons?

they most likely have all rifles and one or two "things" they are all legal and correctly configured though, most is at 150 points, so they got 3 SWC

Generic Faction Starter Packs
PanOceania Starter Pack- 113 pts. 0 SWC
Yu Jing Starter Pack- 124 Pts. 0 SWC
Ariadna Starter Pack- 125Pts. 0 SWC
Haqqislam Starter Pack- 119Pts. 0,5 SWC
Nomads Starter Pack- 114Pts. 0 SWC
Combined Army Starter Pack- 189Pts. 0 SWC
ALEPH Starter Pack- 172Pts. 0,5 SWC

Sectorial Starter Packs
Acontecimento Shock Army Starter Pack- 121 Pts. 0 SWC
Military Orders Starter Pack- 147Pts. 1,5 SWC
Neoterra - Not Released yet
Japanese Sectorial Army Starter Pack- 115 Pts. 0SWC
Imperial Service Starter Pack- 178 Pts. 0 SWC
Caledonian Highlander Army Starter Pack- 126Pts. 1,5 SWC
Merovingia- Not Released yet
Hassassin Bahram Starter Pack- 139 Pts. 2,5 SWC
Qapu Khalqi- Not released yet
Bakunin Jurisdictional Command Starter Pack- 118 Pts- 0,5 SWC
Corregidor- Not released yet
Shasvastii Expeditionary Force Starter Pack- 153 Pts. 3,5 SWC
Morats- not released yet

I have not included the SWC of the Lt. because every starter has different options.

Retrias wrote:

Vertrucio wrote:Is there someplace online I can find the contents of the starter boxes pointed out?

A bunch of people at my FLGS are willing to give the game a shot, but I need to demo it for them.

I'm guessing all the starter box armies just have rifles of some sort, so I don't need to add points for the special weapons?

they most likely have all rifles and one or two "things" they are all legal and correctly configured though, most is at 150 points, so they got 3 SWC

Except for most having CombiRifle, there very differnt. Some have Sniper Rifle, one even has a Hacker in the starter (Stay away from Hackers to start), 2 or 3 starter can't even be fielded as a legal force, and point range from 120ish pts to close to 200 pts. Your best bet is to use the Army Builder on the Infinity site and the online Corvus Belli store has a list of the models and what the armed with in each of the starter.

While the generic faction starter packs have some kind of logic (all basic weapons, similar structure..) the sectorial starter packs are more like "Lets put all these previously released miniatures in a box".
There you find some odd combinations: The Shasvastii box does not have any miniature that can be used as Lt.

Thanks guys. I'll be using this for some proxy trials tomorrow. Hopefully we all like the game this time around.

Good luck, remember to start small 75-150pts and try to keep units as vanilla as possible. This will let you focus more on the core mechanics rather then the special rules.

BobbaFett wrote:There you find some odd combinations: The Shasvastii box does not have any miniature that can be used as Lt.

The shrouded with combi rifle can be a lieutenant.

Not that you'd normally want to, but at least it makes it a legal list.

I think all the boxes are legal lists.

What are Neo-Terra and Merovingia ? Sounds very intriguing !

They're sectorial armies - of Pan Oceania, and Ariadna respectively.

And they're both pretty cool - I especially like the Merovingian one!

If I had it all to do over again, I probably would have concentrated on that faction within Ariadna.

Still, I do love the other models too though!

If I did Ariadna it would be a seriously hard tossup. The werewolves are cool, but the metros are some seriously beautiful models... however french they may be lol

quozl wrote:

BobbaFett wrote:There you find some odd combinations: The Shasvastii box does not have any miniature that can be used as Lt.

The shrouded with combi rifle can be a lieutenant.

Not that you'd normally want to, but at least it makes it a legal list.

I think all the boxes are legal lists.

He is a 2SWC Lt and the box is over the SWC limit even without the Lt.

In other word , It is an Illegal box, which you have to make some adjustment to get around with