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Let's consider a unit of ten Blood Angel Assault Marines under the influence of a Sanguinary Priest, and a unit of Chaos Space Marine Berzerkers, both charging identical units of 30 Ork Boyz, including the Nob with a Powerklaw.

The Assault Marines have three attacks each, hitting on 4+, wounding on 3+, and failing saves on 5-. So 30 attacks, 15 hits, 10 wounds, 8.3 unsaved wounds expected. That rounds down to 8 Ork casualties.

21 Orks attack back, if Sluggas then three attacks each, hitting on 4+, wounding on 5+, and failing saves on 2-. So 63 attacks, 31.5 hits, 10.4 wounds, 3.43 unsaved wounds, 1.72 bypass Feel No Pain. Add 1.25 wounds from the Nob (3 attacks, 4+ to hit, 2+ to wound, no saves, no Feel No Pain)

So the Orks lose that one 8:3, most likely losing another 5 Orks to No Retreat!

The Berzerkers have four attacks each, hitting on 3+, wounding on 3+, and failing saves on 5-. So 40 attacks, 26.8 hits, 17.96 wounds, 14.9 unsaved wounds expected. That rounds up to 15 Ork casualties.

14 Orks attack back, if Sluggas then three attacks each, hitting on 4+, wounding on 5+, and failing saves on 2-. So 42 attacks, 21 hits, 7 wounds, 2.31 unsaved wounds. Add 1.25 wounds from the Nob (3 attacks, 4+ to hit, 2+ to wound, no saves).

The Berzerkes win that one 15:3, forcing about 10 more casualties from No Retreat!

Advantage: Chaos

Incidentally you know what gave the Berzerkers the advantage? Weight (4 attacks each) and quality of attacks (WS5 + Furious Charge).

Baxx wrote:I have played a few games now, and I can't see what the deep striking is good for. It's too risky, and I can't imagine seeing alot of deep striking jump packs in tournaments, even with Descent of Angels.

DoA and so on is to make DS Jump playable at all, as opposed to the currently overpriced and unplayable mess that all-Reserves all-Jump currently is.

I suppose "playable at all" is one way to put it: it's not as if people don't know how to deal with Space Marines in Drop Pods.