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In any videogame snipers are by definition A-holes. This is why you exterminate them in any way possible and the most embarassing method is often the best(ie; placing a claymore behind them in MW2 or Black Ops, or shooting them long distance with a pistol.).

To quote a very wise man; "Sniper's they'll shoot you in the [male member] just for fun."

Melissia wrote:I have access to the mentioned items and I didn't purchase any special edition or DLC.

So? The point is that unlocks that weight the game towards veteran players are wholly stupid in a game without a system of level exclusion.

Melissia wrote:
Leg shots kill... if you hit multiple times.

What game are you playing? The M110 requires, at most, 2 hits to kill; and its semi-automatic without any discernible recoil. If you're any good you have no reason, at all, to use anything else.

Player health is 100, M110 damage is 50-70; meaning as long as your target isn't fresh you're talking about a 1 shot in most cases.

dogma wrote:Player health is 100, M110 damage is 50-70; meaning as long as your target isn't fresh you're talking about a 1 shot in most cases.

And if the target isn't fresh you can also kill just as quickly with the FN SCAR-H.

Wow, does it really matter that much?

Just wish that TF2 on the 360 had some of the new upgrades that the PC version enjoys.

I don't really care if a hat is more OP than a sniper rifle toting engineer - why should it matter?

Melissia wrote:And if the target isn't fresh you can also kill just as quickly with the FN SCAR-H.

31 (max) damage per round, times .3 for hit rate at normal (100-200yds) equals 11 per bullet. As such, you need to fire at least 6 times in order to score the same damage degree as someone with a sniper rifle.

Ah, so you must be using numbers for the console versions.

dogma wrote:

Melissia wrote:And if the target isn't fresh you can also kill just as quickly with the FN SCAR-H.

31 (max) damage per round, times .3 for hit rate at normal (100-200yds) equals 11 per bullet. As such, you need to fire at least 6 times in order to score the same damage degree as someone with a sniper rifle.

That can't be right, the SCAR-L with 3rnd burst drops guys in one burst, that's without any head shots.

They should shrink the headshot box a bit though, maybe its just luck, or the recoil but I do get a stupid amount of heads shots when aiming center mass/crotch level (from crouching going through doorways)

The stats for the console versions as opposed to the PC version are different. On the PC version, pretty much all weapons do more damage, and they're actually nerfing the M110 and M200 sniper rifles.

Melissia wrote:Ah, so you must be using numbers for the console versions.

Yeah, as much as I hate it, my PC hasn't kept pace with gaming (too much effort for return when LoL exists).

If you aim for the chest and fire a burst the recoil should be enough to get you to the neck in most games. Don't forget that body shots are typically a lot stronger than limb shots and in most games a headshot adds a damage multiplier.

I think its normally like; limbs=~50% damage, torso=100% damage, and headshots=200% damage. Not too sure but that's what it seems like.

The game may also have some issues with hit detection based on the character stances. I know for a fact that when I look at the areas I shoot the most in Black Ops it shows the arms as bright red compared to the body. I chalk this up to the stance of the character model reading the shots as limb shots and maybe then a torso shot because of bullet penetration(not sure about the additional torso shot). Hit detection is terrible in a lot of games, and then there's the always present 'lag' death syndrome.

dogma wrote:

Melissia wrote:Ah, so you must be using numbers for the console versions.

Yeah, as much as I hate it, my PC hasn't kept pace with gaming (too much effort for return when LoL exists).

You play LoL?

New patch out on the PC version-- unfortunately, it looks like they either messed up the netcode or messed up the server code with it. We should probably expect a hotfix patch, though when I don't know.

New patch for the PC version again-- fixing several server browser related bugs, as well as finally fixing the friends list bug so that we can join friends who are in games now (woohoo).

Nice, that friends list issue was actually killing the game for me, I may have to get back into it.