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I like the marine gunship the best, it looks the most applicable to 40k's scale. The ork jet is just rediculous as it seems like it'd be able to clear the airspace that the 6x4 board is supposed to represent in no time. The marine gunship evokes a helicopter to me. That being said the giant cannon on the front is absurd looking.

The necron one looks cool but the exposed pilot is weird and I'm always confused about the aesthetic the necrons are trying to portray. This fighter looks very smooth and sleek (tau-ish) whereas I swear I remember the recent wave of necron models looking like insects or something like that.

From the look of that Necro flyer, I'm guessing they once conquered the Kilrathi?

Looks like a SM close support craft. Outstanding, I will buy as many as I can without my wife throwing me out of a window.

Slayer le boucher wrote:

Just Dave wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:Made on the fly.

I feel dirtied for actually laughing at that pun.

Mad4Minis wrote:

White Ninja wrote:Space marine one is lame. May still get one for my DA any ways.

That is why GW succeeds...they release a product that people dont like, yet they buy it anyways. Does anyone else see the flaw here?

That's what I thought too.
To be fair, a lot of their recent, fairly widely hated kits, such as the Dreadknight and Stormraven seem to have sold well.

For converting purposes only i think.

Dreadknights weapons, legs and arms are great for walkers conversion, and you get a "free" termie armor for "Chaos techies" count as oblits.

As for the Stormravens, once you get or do the same conversion kit as chapter house did, its a pretty decent looking flyer.

At least i know i enjoyed it when i did my Kitbashed Thunderhawk or right now, my Kitbashed Chaos Stormeagle by using a SR and a IG Valk.

Also dunno why people once again hates the SM STromtalon, it looks like a futuristic version of an Apache combat chopper...



Now i do think that the sketch isn't 100% accurate on the sizes, and that the model could be better looking in real.

Well if it doesn't then you all know what to do to make your own,...conversions!!!; yeah...,converting stuffs in a games using minis?, crazy i know right?

Except the Apache looks a million times cooler. I'd love it if we got some helicopter type stuff for guard, I know it isn't 'practical' in the year 40k however what from the table top 'is' practical? I'd definitely buy some Blackhawk type helicopters if they made em for 40k.

They could have just made a Land Speeder Tempest, but in plastic. Then I'd actually be excited for yet another release for the Space marines, when they already have a flyer.

All of them look pretty cool to me. But then I again I really like stormravens.

What I am really hoping for is that the flier supplement/rules allows me to play my Tau Barracuda or Tigershark outside of Apoc games.

Meh. I'm still a tad skeptical but whatever, cool either way.

Zarren Wevon wrote:I like the marine gunship the best, it looks the most applicable to 40k's scale. The ork jet is just rediculous as it seems like it'd be able to clear the airspace that the 6x4 board is supposed to represent in no time.

And it is quite possible that flyer rules will have you straffing the table by picking an entry point and an exit point and drawing a line which you travel upon, etc.

You may indeed move off and on the table every round in some fashion

So we buy an expensive model that never actually stays on the table?

d-usa wrote:So we buy an expensive model that never actually stays on the table?

It could come on in your turn moves x amount on the line and exits along line if it survives opponents turn, etc.

it would be on the table a fair maount but not constantly.

I would expect some sort of new mechanic for flyers


As for buying exspensive models that don't ses a lot of table time: See Apocalypse

Ian Sturrock wrote:The Marine one looks a bit like the Robogear Thunder, only less classy.

Other than the fact that they look nothing alike, yes, just like it.

CT GAMER wrote:

d-usa wrote:So we buy an expensive model that never actually stays on the table?

It could come on in your turn moves x amount on the line and exits along line if it survives opponents turn, etc.

it would be on the table a fair maount but not constantly.

I would expect some sort of new mechanic for flyers


As for buying exspensive models that don't ses a lot of table time: See Apocalypse

But when you actually do play Apocalypse, then they stay on the table forever

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Orks get FIVE flyers, oh happy day! Cause of course we're gonna loot the other two.

They didn't need a fething multi hour warning/heads up for piss poor pen sketches.

I feel like I should be sacrificing a goat to Kanluwen right about now for predicting this earlier.

BoW are absolute spank for rumours and I think that all rumour threads provided by them should be purged henceforth.

SO SAYETH THE SPIDER!

Medium of Death wrote:They didn't need a fething multi hour warning/heads up for piss poor pen sketches.

I feel like I should be sacrificing a goat to Kanluwen right about now for predicting this earlier.

BoW are absolute spank for rumours and I think that all rumour threads provided by them should be purged henceforth.

SO SAYETH THE SPIDER!

What makes you think BOW dont already have the actual photos? :3

LOL! So, 20+ years later, with some refurb and weapon swaps, I will finally be able to use it:




Complete with beakie crew:

timd wrote:LOL! So, 20+ years later, with some refurb and weapon swaps, I will finally be able to use it:
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Hind choppers in Space actually sounds like a cooler concept

LunaHound wrote:

Medium of Death wrote:They didn't need a fething multi hour warning/heads up for piss poor pen sketches.

I feel like I should be sacrificing a goat to Kanluwen right about now for predicting this earlier.

BoW are absolute spank for rumours and I think that all rumour threads provided by them should be purged henceforth.

SO SAYETH THE SPIDER!

What makes you think BOW dont already have the actual photos? :3

The fact that they did not post them, perhaps?

That's it, tomorrow I'm gonna call up the stormraven and apologize.

Does GW not understand that the aesthetic REALLY doesn't work for SM? It would be an okay elyisian support craft, but it just... meh.

Also the rules... 130 points, for that? I'd like to point out you priced the vendetta at the same cost and gave it 3 twin linked lascannons, better armor, scout and troop capacity. Way to go GW. Way. To. Go.

d-usa wrote:So we buy an expensive model that never actually stays on the table?

No, people will buy nine of them, since they will likely be available in squadrons. Warhammer shouldn't be going this direction (making non-skimmer flying machines common) since the scale of the game doesn't really allow for it.

I kinda like it. Reminds me of the flyers from 2142 (The attack choppers).

I think BA will get these, and then I will be able to play glorious BA Air-Cav.

Surtur wrote:
Also the rules... 130 points, for that? I'd like to point out you priced the vendetta at the same cost and gave it 3 twin linked lascannons, better armor, scout and troop capacity. Way to go GW. Way. To. Go.

Well to start off with the Vendetta is not supersonic and does not have the Arial Assault rules which make the Stormtalon better when moving at high speeds. Maybe supersonic is a fantastic rule in 6th; if the leaked rules were even half true the stormtalon will rock.

Good news, I have leaked pics of the Storm Talon model, even a parts breakdown!
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/304936-RoboGear%20Condor.html

Very disappointed by the Ork sketch.

Medium of Death wrote:The fact that they did not post them, perhaps?

Or that they are given access to the images but aren't allowed to post them directly and have to settle with rough sketches? They did the same thing for the Necron wave.

lord_blackfang wrote:Good news, I have leaked pics of the Storm Talon model, even a parts breakdown!
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/304936-RoboGear%20Condor.html

Very disappointed by the Ork sketch.

Well, I do hope that SM sketch turns out to be false. Seems like RoboGear is infringing on whats clearly GWs IP! Thats a no-no!

BTT: Necron flyer as seen in the codex, so the surprise-factor is a wee bit limited. Orc could be interesting, those SM flyers just wont grow on me.
Im a fan of the Thunderhawk and the FW release, but the plastic kits just dont appeal to me very much. Im also unsure why exactly SM need a second flyer, while other armies could use new models and a new codex ... I know, I know ... same old story!!

so someone draws a "artists impression" of what they think, add some names they pull from their a..*hat* and now this confirms autumn of fliers?

PUH-LEASE.

actual pics or it dosent happen.

DarthSpader wrote:so someone draws a "artists impression" of what they think, add some names they pull from their a..*hat* and now this confirms autumn of fliers?

PUH-LEASE.

actual pics or it dosent happen.

That's not what happened at all but OK.

The stormtalon could look very cool if it were stretched vertically (at least in the sketch). Hopefully its better proportioned when you actually see the model.

As for the ork one, no one is surprised because we've been looking at that model since Epic 40k. Also no one is surprised by how lackluster the leaked stats are. Its xeno afterall.

It have no clue how they're going to make rules that make these flyers feel like jets.

I kind of miss the old Epic 40k rules where you'd set the jets up on a table edge and that would denote their entry point for their strafing/bombing run, and they'd move across the table in that fashion and be gone for a turn after they passed off the board as they refueled/set up for another pass (now, its probably not exactly the rules, its been a looooooooooong time). Its the only thing that really makes sense. Even current rules for 'super sonic' 36 inches is still a skimmer. Its not a jet.

IMHO the Stormtalon looks promising, but then I've always liked that attack helicopter / Terminator HK kinda look.

It seems fairly likely that there'll be a high degree of commonality with the Stormraven; the tail, engines and cockpit section all look similar and I wouldn't be surprised to see the thruster packs and landing gear in there too.