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pretre wrote:Yeah, because it would be great if the new edition flopped and we lost a ton of people out of the hobby. Sigh. As much as I may not agree with everything that GW does, they do provide us with a hobby that I enjoy by virtue of their existence.

How long do you think that the hobby would last if the company went down the tubes?

Your thinking totally a different thing than we are. We arent talking about a collapse of GW thing, but say a 40-60% lower initial sales figure for the 6th ed rulebook than GW expects...the kind of thing where they might start thinking that this whole 1 week notice thing isnt working. Sales for the 6th ed rulebook over the long term will likely be around what GW expects, so a short term/initial shortfall wouldnt kill the whole company, but might open their eyes a bit.


By "the hobby" Im assuming you mean all of tabletop miniatures gaming...which would do just fine without GW, as people would move to other games, as many already have.

However, if you mean "the hobby" as GW being the end-all be-all of gaming...then, well, I feel sorry for you...

logg_frogg wrote:I don't think we will see anything period out of them until the WD drops on the 23rd.
Which in internet reality terms measn that someone in europe will crack one open and scan the goodies for us on the 20th and let us know for sure that we will be preordering product starting on the 23rd

If them recalling all 5th edition rule books from all registered retail and GW stores a few weeks back wasn;t enough of a tip off I don't know what is lol

The leaks will come... they always do

Considering whats happened, this could be right.
"6th Edition Rumor Roundup

http://www.beastsofwar.com/turn-8/turn-8-fond-farewell-40k-5th-edition/


Edit - Warren also mentioned a GW manager's conference on June 10-11. Could be to hand out the new BRB and after which the 'net would flood with 'confirmations' of rumors and such. Salt again."

timetowaste85 wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:\

insaniak wrote:So was I. Warhammer 40K tanking will not kill the hobby. Just Warhammer 40K. Maybe. It certainly didn't kill Battletech.

Is there some secret island colony of battletech players that are still alive? That game appears to be about as dead as they get.
.

Come to Albany, NY-there is a full Battletech league-they play every Thursday. I recently started getting into it, and it's a ton of fun. I even own 5 BT minis and understand the rules now.

If you go to any of the more popular Battletech forums online (or even ask here on Dakka) you will find plenty of players. BT may not be as big as 40k, but there are many old school players who keep it alive, and recruit new players whenever possible.


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loki old fart wrote:

logg_frogg wrote:I don't think we will see anything period out of them until the WD drops on the 23rd.
Which in internet reality terms measn that someone in europe will crack one open and scan the goodies for us on the 20th and let us know for sure that we will be preordering product starting on the 23rd

If them recalling all 5th edition rule books from all registered retail and GW stores a few weeks back wasn;t enough of a tip off I don't know what is lol

I hope so, I'd like to see If its worth buying, or just play pancake.

Agreed, Ive said it before, Im not dropping $70+ on a new 40k edition until I know theres enough improvement over 5th to be worth it.

Wonder if online retailers will list the book early if we now know the date, much like the flyers being listed a while ago.

Einhänder wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nef_5gNkGfM

You know what this means.

So, on 6-23-12, GW will be bringing to us the number 6! I guess they felt Sesame Street had a bit of a monopoly on that schtick .

I just feel so let down. A teaser about a pre order or an anoumcement about an anouncment? If this is not a release the GW must think of as idiots. I will not get excited over anything GW again.

Maybe its time to get excited over tje Hords box set.

Brother SRM wrote:

Nagashek wrote:Now taking bets: $100 American/60 pounds sterling for 6th ed hardcover.

My money's on $74.25, same as the Fantasy rulebook.

erikwfg wrote:It's possible they have a new release every few days up until 6th hits. In just the past week they released 3 flyers, a few days later the ibooks, a few days later the new orcs and goblins models and new TK finecast.

If many players end up getting new releases every few days, this would get their attention to the website. Still not really advertising though.

That would be lovely, but I sincerely doubt it. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they released new models to coincide with the rulebook launch though. Did Fantasy 8th edition launch with a bunch of new models, or just the rulebook?

8e FB will have been released nearly 2 years by the time 6e 40k streets (10 July for 8e, 7 July for 6e.) A 33% mark up is completely in line with the rest of their price rises. I stand by my prediction, but do concede that if it is lower, that it will most certainly not be a dime less than $80.

And for your second question no. 8e released with nothing. I don't believe a single model was released until the coming of the O+G book in March of 2011, 8 months after its release.

Nagashek wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

Nagashek wrote:Now taking bets: $100 American/60 pounds sterling for 6th ed hardcover.

My money's on $74.25, same as the Fantasy rulebook.

erikwfg wrote:It's possible they have a new release every few days up until 6th hits. In just the past week they released 3 flyers, a few days later the ibooks, a few days later the new orcs and goblins models and new TK finecast.

If many players end up getting new releases every few days, this would get their attention to the website. Still not really advertising though.

That would be lovely, but I sincerely doubt it. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they released new models to coincide with the rulebook launch though. Did Fantasy 8th edition launch with a bunch of new models, or just the rulebook?

8e FB will have been released nearly 2 years by the time 6e 40k streets (10 July for 8e, 7 July for 6e.) A 33% mark up is completely in line with the rest of their price rises. I stand by my prediction, but do concede that if it is lower, that it will most certainly not be a dime less than $80.

And for your second question no. 8e released with nothing. I don't believe a single model was released until the coming of the O+G book in March of 2011, 8 months after its release.

Keep in mind that the 5th Ed book sold for $57.75 before going off shelves, so a $74.25 price tag would be a 28.6% price increase.

That's about what the WFB BRB prices did when 8th hit the scene so it wouldn't surprise me.
then again you could kill a bear with that book, it's a nice improvement (and who still brings a full size rulebook to a game anyway?)

I want a 500 plus page tome of knowledge, so i'm fully willing to drop $75 on something like that.

Looking at my collection, $50 for Apocalypse and $60 for IA 4, those books are paltry compared to WHFB 8th edition (our likely comparison book for this 40K book, I hope)


I'm also hopeful for in addition to the (rumored) 18 mission configs (rather than the current 9 possible ones) for some good narrative/scenario missions in the book, as well as a kill teams/combat patrol variant that works with the new rules.

I've got my fingers crossed tightly, now the waiting is killing me!

loki old fart wrote:

Edit - Warren also mentioned a GW manager's conference on June 10-11. Could be to hand out the new BRB and after which the 'net would flood with 'confirmations' of rumors and such. Salt again."

This is true. The manager from our local GW has been 'summoned to HQ for training' next week, so we may start to get some concrete details in a few days.

When did island of blood come out relative to 8th ed?

loki old fart wrote:When did island of blood come out relative to 8th ed?

A few months after, IIRC.

So they where still selling battle for skull pass, with 7th ed book during 8th?

Red Comet wrote:So does this mean that the pre orders go up the 23rd and the rule book is released the 30th? That seems a bit odd for GW since they usually announce pre-orders on the last Friday of every month when the White Dwarf comes out. Regardless I can't wait for it.

Pre-order on 23rd with TWO WEEK window before the actual release in July. Something to do with a five week month.

Why 2 week window?


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Can I just ask the OP that if scans of the bookcover comes.out to the thread, can you put it in the title please? I don't want to see the cover untill it goes public from GW.

Deadshot wrote:Why 2 week window?


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Can I just ask the OP that if scans of the bookcover comes.out to the thread, can you put it in the title please? I don't want to see the cover untill it goes public from GW.

I don't mean to be rude, but if you don't want to see pictures before it's released, this probably is not the thread for you, seeing as most of us want to see pictures early, that's why they show up in these threads! Unless I'm the only one who comes to dakka rumor threads to hopefully see things before GWS decides it's okay for us to know what we're buying.

Deadshot wrote:

ShatteredBlade wrote:Yes, i am getting excited for this. Since I saw the video on Games-Workshops website. I don't think it could be anything else, unless it is a Dark Angels release.

Since I am getting back into the game, I'd better decide what chapter i am going to go with. Silver Skulls or Doom Eagles Or Guardians of the Covenant. Hrmm.

Has absolutely no reference to any codex as none tie with the number 6. BA were not the 6th Legion, nor DA. Wolves are the closest codex as they were the VI legion.

It could be a VI% price rise.

I want to know.release dates and confirmations on releases. For codexes I'll gladly see the art. But this is just a little bit more special than a codex.

Altruizine wrote:
It could be a VI% price rise.

Nah that would be XXV% price rise

Cerebrium wrote:

loki old fart wrote:When did island of blood come out relative to 8th ed?

A few months after, IIRC.

September to 8th ed's July, like I said about a dozen posts ago.

Deadshot wrote:Why 2 week window?


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Can I just ask the OP that if scans of the bookcover comes.out to the thread, can you put it in the title please? I don't want to see the cover untill it goes public from GW.

It's just going to be a picture of a hammer, like the last two (and Fantasy) rulebooks probably.

Deadshot wrote:I want to know.release dates and confirmations on releases. For codexes I'll gladly see the art. But this is just a little bit more special than a codex.

You can get those things from the GW website on the 23rd. Although they will probably put up the book cover at the same time.

In general, your request is pretty insane. People will quote the picture of the cover even if there's a notice put in the thread title. If you want to achieve such a crazy, pointless goal it's incumbent on you to resist the temptation of viewing preview discussions.

Deadshot wrote:Why 2 week window?


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Can I just ask the OP that if scans of the bookcover comes.out to the thread, can you put it in the title please? I don't want to see the cover untill it goes public from GW.

NP If pics show up I will add it to the thread title when I see them. No promisses that you won' beat me to looking

Ok, thanks.

My request was so that I can log on, see "Cover art now up!!!!!!!!!!!!" in the titl. Unsubscribe.

23rd is the day White Dwarf is released, so expect to see announcement and previews then. Pre-orders will go up and then what, max 14 days until release? Might even be a store copy in your local GW for you to have a flick through on the 23rd.

When i saw the first teaser i guessed it was 6th edition because it had roman numerals for six.

Hope flyers are better and Guard stay best

Nah, cos da orks is da best!

Flyers/skimmers getting better i'm all for though

me, for one, is pretty dam excited!
cannot wait!!!!
so looking forward to it!!!