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Sorry if this has already been made, I didn't have time to check. This topic is for discussing and comparing the Baneblade to the Stompa, Tactics, weapons, looks. Anything you would like to discuss about these amazing models by Games Workshop.

Would somebody like to begin the discussion with an opinion?

This is a really, really broad question that has to many variables, so it won't really generate many solid answers, only conjecture. For example: How far away are they starting from another? Are there other units? What is their specific weapon loadout? etc, etc. If you want an answer though I can only say this. If the units are fairly far from one another then I would feel comfortable saying that the Baneblade would win, only because it can just blow it apart from such a great distance. But it the Stompa somehow gets into CC it will most likely eat the BB for breakfast.

Stompa wins for having access to my favorite upgrade in the entire game, the lifta droppa.
Effectiveness arguments be damned

The stompa still has void shields,right? Does it have long range shooters as well? I'm not so familiar with stompa weapons loadout. I understand there are also stompa specifically designed for CC? cool! heheheh
But I can say that BB does have a very substantial long range arsenal, specially when kitted out to it's maximum weapon/sponsons upgrades. So i say my bet is on the BB.


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My question for GW is that, why did they design the stompa to look like monsters wearing skirts? Maybe it's just me

Gorkamorka wrote:Stompa wins for having access to my favorite upgrade in the entire game, the lifta droppa.
Effectiveness arguments be damned

I completely agree with you sir! That, imo, is how Ork weapons should be

I think it's actually supposed to quite resemble an Ork diety. Tall, fat, slow, covered in metal and gunz....

I do find it ironic that Ork giant robots are shaped like humans, with the head on top, while human giant robots are shaped like Orks, with the head jutting forward from the shoulder area.

I know that Stompas are supposed to look like Brainboyz/Old Ones/deities, but still, it's a weird little quirk of hardware design.

Hah! I never thought about that before. While all the bits and finish make them look distinctly Orky/Imperial, the general shape does seem switched.

mindfield wrote:The stompa still has void shields,right? Does it have long range shooters as well? I'm not so familiar with stompa weapons loadout. I understand there are also stompa specifically designed for CC? cool! heheheh
But I can say that BB does have a very substantial long range arsenal, specially when kitted out to it's maximum weapon/sponsons upgrades. So i say my bet is on the BB.

The Ork stompa's main gun is range 72" s10 ap1 apoc. blast. It also has another on the same arm with range 48" I think.

but no I don't think it has any void shields. At least not the standard one.

The problem with the Stompas range is not its weapons, it is its BS 2. It is just not able to compete in the ranged game. More then once have I seen, or used, BBs and other Titans to just blow apart Stompas with impunity.

If its standard 12 deployment from the table and its a 4x6 table, the stompa will win. The BB will have to get very lucky with its main cannon rolls to kill it or the lascannons. Also remember the Stompa has the big S10 shot vs the BB S9 shot.

thehod wrote:If its standard 12 deployment from the table and its a 4x6 table, the stompa will win. The BB will have to get very lucky with its main cannon rolls to kill it or the lascannons. Also remember the Stompa has the big S10 shot vs the BB S9 shot.

That's what I was thinking too. I also believe that the Stompa is better for taking down infantry as well.

thehod wrote:If its standard 12 deployment from the table and its a 4x6 table, the stompa will win. The BB will have to get very lucky with its main cannon rolls to kill it or the lascannons. Also remember the Stompa has the big S10 shot vs the BB S9 shot.

That table is waaaaay too small for an Apoc game. You'll want something like 6x8 for 3000 points.

I have both, but I have not been able to get together a single apocalypse game. Does anybody actually play it? Personally, I would give the Baneblade the edge, because of its higher BS, and lower profile which makes it easier to take advantage of cover.

I dont know how the templates work in APOC, but if its the same as in 40k, Id still give the advantage to the Stompa. Sure the BS is terrible, but with the size of those templates, even if you scatter horribly you would be hitting something

I saw an apoc batrep here where there's an (AFAIK) equal number of stompas and BB, the winner is the stompa! hehehe! Maybe bad dice rolling but there it is clear as crystal.
The difficulty with organizing an apoc game is the sheer number of participants in it, you maybe looking at 3 to 10 players, calling them all up and establishing the venue and time to meet. Deployment alone should be around an hour or more depends on the pointage.

Speaking from a custom scenario - scatter is the template's killer (Then again I was working with 3D6 scatter)

Stompa
Advantages
. More Structure Points than Baneblade
. Has a Titan CCW
. Has a weapon with potentially infinite shots
. Good armour
. 72" S10 Ap1 7" Blast Deth-Cannon
. Good Transport Capacity

Disadvantages
. BS2
. Super-Gatler has limited ammo

Baneblade
Advantages
. Tough Armour
. Devestating Firepower
. Can swap sponsons for Av14
. Can take extra sponsons.
. Very versatile model
. Plenty of variants avaliable

Disadvantages
. Can be swamped by infantry
. No Transport Capacity

So I gather in a long range duel,go for the BB. In a medium range duel,go for the stompa!
Also depends on weapon loadouts,number of combatants and deployment.

Valkyrie wrote:Stompa
Advantages
. More Structure Points than Baneblade
. Has a Titan CCW
. Has a weapon with potentially infinite shots
. Good armour
. 72" S10 Ap1 7" Blast Deth-Cannon
. Good Transport Capacity

Disadvantages
. BS2
. Super-Gatler has limited ammo

All i've got to say add is i've never seen a custom baneblade. I've also never seen a GW stompa. So i'd chalk one up on advantages, technically less expensive because everyone models it themselves anyways

If we're counting the option for additional sponsons for the Baneblade, we should also count the Mek Stompa variant, which has two Forcefields (basically void shields) and the Lifta-Droppa, which may not be able to pick up the Baneblade itself, but can certainly toss another vehicle into it for some substantial damage.

Joetaco wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:Stompa
Advantages
. More Structure Points than Baneblade
. Has a Titan CCW
. Has a weapon with potentially infinite shots
. Good armour
. 72" S10 Ap1 7" Blast Deth-Cannon
. Good Transport Capacity

Disadvantages
. BS2
. Super-Gatler has limited ammo

All i've got to say add is i've never seen a custom baneblade. I've also never seen a GW stompa. So i'd chalk one up on advantages, technically less expensive because everyone models it themselves anyways

I've never seen anybody custom-model a stompa. People do it with titans but most people just pay the 100$ to get a GW stompa.

In my experiance, baneblades outgun stompas every time.

Having multiple guns that can penetrate the stompas armor (and a higher front armor itself) means that the baneblade will be able to sit in one spot and pour fire into the stompa.

If the baneblade's movement is reduced by damage, you don't care. The stompa really needs to keep coming for the CCW to be a threat.

If the baneblade loses a weapon you it doesn't put it out of the ranged fight. If the stompa loses its big gun, it has to try to close and kill the baneblade in CC.

It's not really a fair comparison though. The two models are built for different purposes. Ones a transport and infantry support vehicle. The other is a medium/long range fire support vehicle.

Stompa vs stormlord is probably a better comparison.

1) Take a Stompa that still has it's troop capacity.
2) Get a Mekboy with a KFF and mount him in it.
3) Laugh at the Baneblade.

I have honestly found the baneblade to be very underwhelming. The thing is a target priority, and gets swamped by infantry really easily and quickly. The weapons are nice but the big mech variant of the stompa can really put out a lot of hurt with it's gigashoot, grot rokkits and Deff-kannon. The co-axial weapon is also much more likely to hit, so you get the re-roll on the scatter. Add flicking land raiders off the board and the ability to change things with basically a str 10 cc attacks that hit the entire infantry squad, and you have stompy stompy death that has the potential to move 24" a turn. If you are playing a true APOC game, you can take flank march and run it out turn two in the softest area of the board.

PS: also, there is nothing more fun than dropping walkers out of it as you go to mop things up.

12thRonin wrote:1) Take a Stompa that still has it's troop capacity.
2) Get a Mekboy with a KFF and mount him in it.
3) Laugh at the Baneblade.

I don't know much about APOC but if you can put a KFF in a stompa, I think it wins. That would be an awesome vehicle.

Dedrith wrote:Would somebody like to begin the discussion with an opinion?

You have a crappy avatar.

That is my opinion.

Dutch508 wrote:

Dedrith wrote:Would somebody like to begin the discussion with an opinion?

You have a crappy avatar.

That is my opinion.

Trolling isn't going to get you very far here my friend. Now go find somewhere else to post your worthless comments.

Thanks for the feedback, to those of you who are mature enough to say something useful.

I like what jshbchnn said, I hadn't considered that it wasn't a fair comparison. it is true that they each serve different purposes but I didn't mean to compare them in direct combat against one another, instead I had intended to debate their overall effectiveness against your opponent’s army.

Well isn't your avatar the communist party flag?

Kind of wierd... but whatever.

Sorry if I start some kind of debate that derails the thread.