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That's a cool looking box. I certainly the best out of the lot so far. I love the Kroot, probably a good opportunity to try out some of the weirder contrast paints on their skin.

The Navy lot are interesting, I like the lad with the massive boarding axe. Not as characterful as the Kroot perhaps.

I hope we continue to get less codex related Kill Teams, it's a nice way to expand the model lines.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

You know that the shield is shaped like a door because it's supposed to
Fit
Through the ship doors

That does sound like something the Imperial Navy administration would tell people when asked.

Luckily this ship didn't have any circular door.

There might still be limited compatibility with ZM pieces somehow. I'm seeing a tiled flooring with connectors at the middle, perhaps the ZM tiles also fit over the same squares even if the middle connectors themselves do not?

If we're getting 4 different sets of compatible doors/walls for these, the complete set of those is going to be GLORIOUS!

Chopstick wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

You know that the shield is shaped like a door because it's supposed to
Fit
Through the ship doors

That does sound like something the Imperial Navy administration would tell people when asked.

Luckily this ship didn't have any circular door.

I'm pretty sure you're making a joke but like
My man
They literally come in the box with him

 tauist wrote:
There might still be limited compatibility with ZM pieces somehow. I'm seeing a tiled flooring with connectors at the middle, perhaps the ZM tiles also fit over the same squares even if the middle connectors themselves do not?

If we're getting 4 different sets of compatible doors/walls for these, the complete set of those is going to be GLORIOUS!

I honestly doubt there will be much compatibility with ZM. (beyond cutting, gluing and forcing it). In all honestly I half-suspect they'll quietly retire the ZM range in a month or two. It seems to be the fate of terrain pieces.

The Kroot especially look super mono-pose.

 Hivefleet Oblivion wrote:
For those of us who actually own Space Hulk.... do we expect the terrain to be on sale separately at some point?

It will release seperately as it’s modular however it’s going to be more expensive seperately.
Essentially these Box sets deals go limited release are the biggest discount and the starter box set is the next biggest discount and the killzone sets are a minor discount… expect the terrain and 2 army boxes bought seperately costing a little more then this box set and essentially getting the rules books play mat and all the templates and tokens for free.

Love the look of everything.

Anything with shotguns is always great, as well as a nice fire ax.

twoseventwo wrote:

twoseventwo wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Can anyone with better eyes weigh in on whether those floor tiles (which aren’t Zone Mortalis) look compatible with ZM?

I’m seeing the pillar/grate square for sure, but other than that my eyes go wonky.

I don't think so. The grate is clearly the same CAD file as the ZM one but it looks like it has a wider border so the squares must be bigger, I think.

On further examination: ZM walls are thick and occupy squares. Here it looks like all squares have thick borders and the walls are thin and sit on top of the borders.

Only one grate visible too; I think it's for flavour rather than a part of the way bits fit together.

So unless they have been very very clever, I think not ZM compatible.

EDIT: More grates than that, but in adjacent rows.

Did Gw shut down Owens Twitter account?. he was awesome showing all the features he built into terrains to make them compatible between sets… but he stopped posted a bit ago.


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 schoon wrote:
The KT board has 7 x 6 "squares," which would make them very close, but not quite square.

I have 6 ZM floor tiles, which is 24x36". I'm going to call that close enough for anything other than competitive play.

As for the pillars and walls, I bet they're all the same dimension. It wouldn't be worth it for 0.2"

...and there's nothing that says you can't use your ZM pillars and walls.

Why would they say you can’t zone mortalis is necromunda this is killteam it’s seperate games and board sizes.

I too agree killteam board size is silly but I get why it’s compatible w 40K


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Voss wrote:

 tauist wrote:
There might still be limited compatibility with ZM pieces somehow. I'm seeing a tiled flooring with connectors at the middle, perhaps the ZM tiles also fit over the same squares even if the middle connectors themselves do not?

If we're getting 4 different sets of compatible doors/walls for these, the complete set of those is going to be GLORIOUS!

I honestly doubt there will be much compatibility with ZM. (beyond cutting, gluing and forcing it). In all honestly I half-suspect they'll quietly retire the ZM range in a month or two. It seems to be the fate of terrain pieces.

They are seriously purging terrain fast even good all around sets like sector imperialis. It’s crazy..
I think at best I can place this terrain next to my zone mortalis board and make it somewhat visually compatible but the different board sizes screws me.

 TalonZahn wrote:
Love the look of everything.

Anything with shotguns is always great, as well as a nice fire ax.

Totally agreed! This looks like a really excellent box set. The breachers have so much character, like ... hyper-aggressive deep space fire fighters lol

So the guy with the shield...has an over/under double barrel pump shotgun.

Is that even mechanically possible? How would that even function?

There already existed the concept of a naval shotcannon. Why not use one of those?

Bob Lorgar wrote:
So the guy with the shield...has an over/under double barrel pump shotgun.

Is that even mechanically possible? How would that even function?

There already existed the concept of a naval shotcannon. Why not use one of those?

It's 2 shotguns stack on top of each other, you fire both shell and when you rack it, both shells come out, doesn't sound very implausible.

The weapons these guys used are either mass produce shotgun pattern, autogun and autopistol, or something look like a youtuber made them in his workshop : fire axe with slap on powerfield generator, bomb stick to servo skull, 2 shotguns weld together, a door as shield.... multilas look like they just yoink it from the nearest sentinel factory. The drone also looks like these guy made it themselves. I think the most expensive piece of equipment these guy had are the power saber and the chainfist.

I don't think they really have the budget to have some kind of crazy new weapon. Maybe if they do we'll see some insane weapons like a melta blowtorch, a combi drill-gun weapon, a demolition charge launcher..., or just simply old weapon but completely different new pattern. Well technically speaking these shotguns are new pattern because the stocks are different than the other pump shotgun.

Bob Lorgar wrote:
So the guy with the shield...has an over/under double barrel pump shotgun.

Is that even mechanically possible? How would that even function?

Better than the squat guns with the breech of one barrel inside the magazine at any rate. Also it has two ejection ports so that’s nice

But really, it just needs a long slide and two lifts, possibly nested, to shove two shells out of the tube at once and load them in sequence. I already have a rough sketch of an idea of the mechanism in my head.
Of course by doubling the firepower that way you’re effectively halving your magazine, to the point where you might spend less time on average reloading a break-action instead. But it kinda makes sense for an environment where you expect brief but excessively violent engagements with plenty of downtime between.

Maybe there is a hidden tube in the body somewhere. It’s not great though. The pump action thing at least will is fine. The venerable Spas 12 is semi auto but with an auxiliary pump action to aid use of shells that are not powerful enough to cycle the action: also the shotgun is quite well embedded in that shield to enable the slide to be racked.

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
The Kroot especially look super mono-pose.

There's at least one different option.
There's a kroot holding his gun vertically that is different to the squad shown. You can see it in this picture. I'm really curious to see what other options there are.

Each of them should have alternative build option with Kroot rifle to present the "generic profile" just like other new Killteam team.

 Mr_Rose wrote:


Of course by doubling the firepower that way you’re effectively halving your magazine, to the point where you might spend less time on average reloading a break-action instead. But it kinda makes sense for an environment where you expect brief but excessively violent engagements with plenty of downtime between.

For all you know he could have a whole bunch of shells and load system behind that shield

gungo wrote:

They are seriously purging terrain fast even good all around sets like sector imperialis. It’s crazy..
I think at best I can place this terrain next to my zone mortalis board and make it somewhat visually compatible but the different board sizes screws me.

I would be slightly - slightly - surprised to see them kill ZM unless they were stopping supporting "indoor" Necromunda as a game. Players of that need terrain, and this KT set doesn't look nearly as versatile (e.g. no elevated positions) and is definitely designed to look primarily like the inside of a vessel. They could admittedly just introduce a new Necromunda box with new components from this new system, but their priority with that game seems to be Ash Wastes right now rather than underhive starter set #4.

But who knows. I kind of imagine terrain is simply not a big seller in general.

Chikout wrote:

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
The Kroot especially look super mono-pose.

There's at least one different option.
There's a kroot holding his gun vertically that is different to the squad shown. You can see it in this picture. I'm really curious to see what other options there are.

Other KT kits (the first IG veteran squad, at least) have a mono-pose KT specialist build, and Lasgun option for them too.
They may be monopose, but there is an alternate monopose to build instead. I am managing to magnetise the IG squad, mostly.

Everything in this box look great, but I'm not really that interested in the game itself. If these models will get proper usable 40K rules I might need to get it.

Wasn‘t a big fan of the recent Kill Team boxes, but this one looks nice and I might have to get one.

As they’ve now suddenly revealed the complete contents, are we expecting preorders to be announced this weekend? I would have expected a more gradual approach until they show us everything, but maybe their release schedule got jumbled and this set might just be what‘s ready now.

Did GW use the existing Space Hulk artwork but replaced the Blood Angels ship for a more generic Imperial one?

Chikout wrote:
There's at least one different option.
There's a kroot holding his gun vertically that is different to the squad shown. You can see it in this picture. I'm really curious to see what other options there are.

Fascinating. I don't see any of the other Kroot with shared pieces for that one. It almost looks like the one with the peg leg, based on the other foot, but that's a lot of spare pieces if so.

Yes. At least modified.

Original image spoilered for size.

Thus far, there has not been a single Kill Team without the options to make it into a generic 40k unit with everyone getting the same guns (and a few specials), so I don't see why it would be different with these guys.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

Chikout wrote:
There's at least one different option.
There's a kroot holding his gun vertically that is different to the squad shown. You can see it in this picture. I'm really curious to see what other options there are.

Fascinating. I don't see any of the other Kroot with shared pieces for that one. It almost looks like the one with the peg leg, based on the other foot, but that's a lot of spare pieces if so.

Typically, KT squads are a typical double sized sprue plus a single sprue with KT specific upgrade parts (for 3 frames total). Sometimes they are just three frames all jumbled up if all the options are in the Codex, like the Kommandos.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Fine I'll post the terrain pics:





So in the first picture the ground is very clearly real... and then in the actual contents, it's a paper mat. And it appears that everything is based on a slot system, and then a series of toppers that holds everything together.

Is it me, or it looks a tad sparse?

My head cannon (no pun intended) for the double-barrelled pump shotgun being specifically with the boarding shield is so that he can have two different ammo types loaded simultaneously. For example having a solid slug to take out locks/hinges, etc. and then a standard anti-infantry loading (buck shot?) to shoot the thing behind the door.

 Albertorius wrote:
Is it me, or it looks a tad sparse?

Well they want you to buy the next two boxes after this, only those boxes will have existing kits with upgrade sprues, making them less attractive prospects.

 Albertorius wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Fine I'll post the terrain pics:





So in the first picture the ground is very clearly real... and then in the actual contents, it's a paper mat. And it appears that everything is based on a slot system, and then a series of toppers that holds everything together.

Is it me, or it looks a tad sparse?

Theres some scatter terrain as well I think. Its a lot of walls- but not enough to build lots of corridors, as a base set its not bad but it will only get really interesting once you add additional sets.

TBH there's more of it than I thought there'd be, but I think the article hints pretty heavily that GW forsee you buying the next two Kill Team boxes too and combining them together before you get a real set of corridor Zone Mortalis terrain.