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I used to play BA in 3rd and I no longer play SM of have any Imperial Armies, I miss the BA history but with every part of me wants to worship the Omnissiah and I'm a Adeptus Mechanicus nut. So I have models in boxed, but I need help picking.....BA gets new Codex, Iron Hands I get closer to my Adeptus Mechanicus love and the Idea of buying/building a titan. HELP! In my mind IH is in a slim lead.

Man, tough choice. Vampires or Cyborgs... Jeez, this is tougher than Soccer Hooligans or Vikings. I've always empathised with the Iron Hands though, being a misanthrope myself.

Go and look at Klaus' Iron hands in the Dakka P&M modelling blog section. Come back and tell me you do not want an Iron hands army.

The Omnissiah is demanding your devotion, ignore the sparkling Twilight-Marines, go COGS, WOOOH!!

Play Iron Hands, but use the new Blood Angel rules... PROFIT!

Vargtass wrote:The Omnissiah is demanding your devotion, ignore the sparkling Twilight-Marines, go COGS, WOOOH!!

Please do not mention that horrible horrible excuse for a movie, i have fond memories of mephiston culling ork squads, now all those memories are being ruined (and vampires in general) by these sparkling poofs, just like the car i wanted (volvo c30) is also tainted god damn twilight and all the twihards with it
*starts hyperventilating*

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:Go and look at Klaus' Iron hands in the Dakka P&M modelling blog section. Come back and tell me you do not want an Iron hands army.

Wow....FTW! Thats nuts!

BA- they have a new Codex coming.

As opposed to Iron Hands who's codex comes next year? (no it doesn't, sarcasm)

If we are taking that route we can just go ahead and remove all Space Marine Chapters except for those with separate codices (it sounds wrong...). If you have to choose between Iron Hands and BA why not go original and do something different, because as soon as the new BA codex comes out there will be thousands upon THOUSANDS of BA-players... that is unless they sparkle in the sun...

GW doesn't like Iron Hands very much. They're the only First Founding Loyalist Chapter without a special character or special rules. That said, they are way cooler than Blood Angels, and Codex: Space Marines isn't exactly bad. Iron Hands all the way.

I vote Iron Hands all the way. Its not too hard to make your own special character, and assuming that the people in your FLGG aren't a bunch of jerks, you could probably do some cool stuff with them. If you need some fluff help, try http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Iron_Hands. Has most of the canon about them, as well as some names for your prospective character. As the "Chapter Tactic," I'd see giving all your marines bionics would be sufficient, or that all sergeants count as Techmarines. Man, thinking of this is seriously causing me to think of reworking my templar models and do an Iron Hands army... Let me think a little while and my ADD/genius brain will poop out some sort of awesome but not OTT commander for the Cogmarines.


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Iron Commander Dyspirros Flux
WS: 6 BS:5 S: 6 T: 5 W: 3 A: 3 Ld: 10 Sv: 2+
Points: 195 (?)
Special Rules:
ATSKNF, Combat Tactics, Independent Character, Bolster Defenses, Lord of the Armoury.

Mechanical Perfection: All vehicles in an army led by Dyspirros automatically have Extra Armor and Dozer Blades. All Predators and Vindicators have +1 to all armor values.

Chapter Tactics: If you in clued Dyspirros then all units exchange the combat tactics special rule for the Bionics wargear. All sergeants count as Techmarines (cannot take full servo-harness).

Wargear
Medusa pattern eviscerator: A master crafted chainsword that adds +2 to his strength in close combat, has the Rending special rule and ignores armor saves.

STC Bionics: Dyspirros likely has the single most advanced set of bionics the Imperium has. If he suffers a save that would cause a wound, he ignores it on a d6 roll of 4+. Against weapons that do not allow armor saves and weapons that cause instant death, this is increased to a 6+.

Comments? Concerns? Too OP? Too many/too little points?

*edit* 4+2 =! 5....

In April there is a blood angel dread called the furiso librarian so im going for blood angels

Well Id go blood angels as I already have, and Mech them up a bit. Better rule, you can still take tech adepts in command squads and techmarines. And Over charged engines is such an Omnissah worshipping thing to do.

And who says you cant build a Titan to fit your army? Apoc games allow it.

And @ DEATH89
Twilight ruined the C30 for me too... So I will be getting an Alfa Romeo Brera to make my self feel better! You should too!

Go for a crusade army. You can't mix codexes, but you could paint some of your army as IH and when you get bored, paint up some marines as BA. You'd have to pick either the SM or BA codex. Personally, I'd play the army as Codex: SM, but I think it'd be fine to have some landspeeders, assault marines, maybe even a termie unit or dread in BA colors.

I'm Really loving the SW codex as IH right now, what with WG to farm out to Tac squads for Termie sargents to having an HQ Dreadnought, good times.
My current list is:
270-Bjorn

190- 5 man WG termie squad with "fireblades" (wolf claws) and storm bolters

150- 10 man GH squad w/2 flamers
73-WG termie w/Ass-cannon and PF

150- 10 man GH squad w/2 flamers
43-WG termie w/PF

155- 10 man GH squad w/2 meltas
48-WG termie w/combi melta and PF

160- 10 man GH squad w/ 2x plasma
48- WG termie w/combi plasma and PF

140- 6 man, 5x ML squad
73- WG termie w/cyclone ML and PF

180- Ven dread w/saga of majesty

125- quad auto cannon dreadnought

1805-TOTAL

as for SC's I like using the tempus fugitive's Horus Heresy ruleset, preferably not the current SOT one, as they got drop site massacred. I am now about a tac squad through my pre-heresy IH's.

With the new Codex and the orgasmic models every new gamer and lots of current ones are going to be playing BAs. So be different and have an IH army. Sniperjolly's list above is a really good way of making a fluffy fun IH army using C:SW and you can really go to town personalising your army to make it stand out from the crowd of Smurfs, Wolves and Vamps. Then when the hype has gone and you want to start a new army... make a BA one as well.

Blood Angels! New codex coming out!

Iron hands for certain if you like to do conversions. Cant wait to see them finally get a codex some day.

Blood Angels, nothing else, since they get a new 'dex.

I'd go Iron Hands, new codex just means more people buying it to exploit the new stuff that will be ridiculous. It happens with every release.

Might as well be unique eh?