Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory (3/18: Adepticon prep - gaslands cruiser)

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**IceAngel**

Maybe the dreadnought was actually left behind on Tranquility and wasn't awoken until after the Mantis Warrior crusade, hidden in some long forgotten part of their home world until rediscovered when the Mantis Warriors returned.

**whalemusic360**

Maybe the space sharks woke it up, painted it gray, and called him steve... You know, cuz they get the MW world for their own.

**Gitsplitta**

Remember... this army is supposed to be a Badab War era army. So no space sharks yet, no crusade.

Conversely, I could just paint him normally and battle scar the living hell out of him... As a full assault Iron Clad in a pod he'd be "stuck in" to the heart of the fighting every single battle.

**Miss Dee**

I had a problem with the pegs on my IW dred, might get one of the dreads for my Nightlords.

**Tek**

Hmm, that's sad to hear about the resin tooling Gits, I was actually planning on buying the FW Ironclad, and converting the Hammer arm from something else.

Grr, those naughty Forge Worlders. Did you put in a complaint? It might be a one-off, and you never know, they might sent you a whole new Dread to make up for it, they're good like that

**Gitsplitta**

Meh, it's not that big an issue because it's a fairly simple fix... it's just annoying that the "standard" mold of this figure has such a fundamental flaw (I think my FW venerable is the same way, but since I was building my own arms it was less of an issue). They don't fix it because they don't have to... we'll still line up for hours and pay exorbitant shipping fees to buy them.

Just lazyness on their part, that's all.

**Joske De Veteraan**

IceAngel wrote:Maybe the dreadnought was actually left behind on Tranquility and wasn't awoken until after the Mantis Warrior crusade, hidden in some long forgotten part of their home world until rediscovered when the Mantis Warriors returned.

you don't just "forget" the site of a sacred and blessed artefact as a dread.. and how could you loose an storage area including a dread techpriests and servitors.. for about thousand years.. and you have a governor who controls the planet and he craps his pants if the MW get angry at him for losing a dread.. so he will definetly look after it.. so impossible IMO and what about the honoured hero in the dread? he can't get out.. i supose he needs food just as all marines..

how does a dread actually eat?? a techpriest comes everymorning to the dread armour with his littlle ladder and gives it food with a spoon like baby?? kinda emberassing for the hero

@Gitts: srr f offtopic question..

**IceAngel**

Joske De Veteraan wrote:
IceAngel wrote:Maybe the dreadnought was actually left behind on Tranquility and wasn't awoken until after the Mantis Warrior crusade, hidden in some long forgotten part of their home world until rediscovered when the Mantis Warriors returned.

you don't just "forget" the site of a sacred and blessed artefact as a dread.. and how could you loose an storage area including a dread techpriests and servitors.. for about thousand years.. and you have a governor who controls the planet and he craps his pants if the MW get angry at him for losing a dread.. so he will definetly look after it.. so impossible IMO and what about the honoured hero in the dread? he can't get out.. i supose he needs food just as all marines..

how does a dread actually eat?? a techpriest comes everymorning to the dread armour with his littlle ladder and gives it food with a spoon like baby?? kinda emberassing for the hero

@Gitts: srr f offtopic question..

lol, good question, but I don't think dreadnoughts eat. A lot of the time the person entombed in a dreadnought isn't much more then a head sustained by a life support system of some kind, all it needs is power. Besides once they are neatly put away I don't think anyone visits them or checks up on them so they could easily be forgotten, this is 40k, they can't even remember how to build their own tanks, lol.

but Gitsplitta you are right, my time line is a bit off, if he is in the Badab Era then he could just be really old and crusty. I do agree with Whalemusic though, he does kind of look like a Steve.

**Miss Dee**

Gitsplitta wrote:
Just lazyness on their part, that's all.

You should of seen the gaps on thier thunderfire cannon land raider I have

**Heffling**

Manchu thinks you may have made a mistake about what thread you were posting in.

**whalemusic360**

Nice tutorial and all, but that has 0 to do with anything on this blog.

**Heffling**

Gits was asking on the last page or two about how to magentize the HK rockets on his Ironclad Dread. I was just posting how I did a similar conversion for my warbuggies.

**fatty**

oke that would be cool awesome and over the top and then some more. but will you get it done in time for the 100 page mark?

**Manchu**

Sorry about that, Heff. Here's your post (preserved for just such an error on my part.

Heffling wrote:I've converted the TL Big Shootas on my buggies to have rokkits. What I did was:

Tools:
Small Drill Bit (I think it's 1/16")
Magnets - Pair of 1/16" for each rokkit
Rod - 1/16" diameter, about 1/4-3/8" long
Paper Clip, small diameter, with both ends bent straight.

1) Drilled into both the rokkit and the big shoota barrel. about 1/4". I slightly overbored the big shoota barrel by dragging the drill bit around the side while drilling (so not deeper, just enough to slightly expand the hole).

2) Glue and insert the rod into the rokkit. This should leave around 1/8-3/16" sticking out.

3) Checked fitting of the rod by inserting it into the barrel. I dont' want the barrel to "grip" the rod, which is why it's overbored slightly. And I need to have enough room to fit a pair of magnets inside.

4) Used the paperclip and inserted it into the barrel. I marked the depth and checked against the rod sticking out of the rokkit to confirm I had enough room for two magnets. Sometimes, I would have to drill the hole a bit deeper.

5) Extremely lightly glued the magnet to the end of the paperclip, making sure to note polarity first.

6) I placed a small amount of glue into the barrel, and used the non-magnet side of the paperclip to make sure the glue was pushed in.

7) I then used the magnet size to push the magnet to the bottom of the barrel. I let the glue in the barrel dry with the paperclip attached, then twisted and removed the paperclip, leaving the magnet inside.

If the magnet didn't stay the first time, I redrilled to remove glue and try again.

8) Once everything was dry (30 minutes later), I took my rokkit and checked the fit to make sure no excess glue had dried to the sides. If some had, I re-drilled and overbored the sides.

9) I doubled checked the magnet polarity and glue bond by inserting the stack of magnets. The overbore insures they aren't getting stuck into the sides, and pulling the magnet stack out checks the integrity of the magnet glue in the barrel. This also verifies my polarity.

10) I carefully glued a magnet to the center of the rokkit rod.

11) I carefully filed down around the magnet after 30 minute drying to remove excess glue from the rod surface.

12) Insert the rokkit into the barrel and viola, convertible big shootas.

**whalemusic360**

Oops, my bad, missed that (easy to do in this beast). You should make a Tutorial on it in the Tutorial section next time you do one and take some pics! I did look and didnt see it though. You should get an avatar so it's easier for others to find your posts (unless you have one and I just cant see it for whatever reason).

**JohnHwangDD**

Gitsplitta wrote:I think, for the time being... I will keep the blog as a single story line rather than dividing it. I will however, expand the notes to new readers on the first page in the hopes of getting them interested quickly so they can join in the conversation right away. I will also try to do more frequent summaries, not only for the new folks but for anyone who wants to see what we've all accomplished together.

You may want to make that first post basically an Index, with links to stuff as you go along.

So you could link to individual updates, making it easy for newbies to find stuff, rather than forcing them to hunt through the entire thread:

Mantis Warriors models
Chapter Master - built - initial paint - final paint
Ironclad - built- painted
...

Mantis Warriors story
...

**Manchu**

John makes a very, very good point, Gitsplitta.

**Heffling**

No worries Manchu, I like a mod who takes his job seriously. =-) And I should have done a better job (or any job at all!) explaining why I was posting it.

**Gitsplitta**

LOL!

Well, at least I know that Heffling pays attention to what I write. Not so sure about the rest of you.

You're probably all...

during my posts.

Those are very good ideas John. I'll come up with an outline for the fist post that will work like a index, then go from there. Thank you!

OK, so no strong opinions on the dread painting scheme save that no one believes that a dreadnought could be "lost & presumed dead", then rediscovered millennia later when the planet was recaptured.

Given the flaw in my logic then, I think what I'll do is paint it as a normal tranquility vet, then really beat the heck out of it in order to represent the fact that it's been in constant hand-to-hand combat during it's deployment and due to the nature of the Badab War... fixing the superficial things is probably not a hight priority for the chapter OR the dreadnought operator.

Does that work better? It will certainly simplify my job as the painter quite a bit.

**Yggdrasil**

It's too bad, I quite liked the idea of it...

Maybe it's not they forgot about their hero/relic, but were cut out from it (unbeatable foe, overwhelming invasion force, Inquisitorial ban, etc...) and could only wait but for a proper time to reach it back again. And when they do, they're in such a dire situation that they had to get it back into the fray without much maintenance (or at least re-painting).

On a side note, I have problems too with the FW Seismic Hammer, I was considering buying a FW Ironclad these last days, but that deterred me from doing it... Come one, it doesn't even look like a hammer! At least, on the GW one, you can guess the vibrations it can produce!

**whalemusic360**

I would use it as a balancer. If you are thinking that there is going to be to much yellow in your green marines, make it green. If you think the Vets could use more facetime, go with yellow.

I have 1 or 2 spare GW seismic hammers if someone needs them that I would be more then willing to trade off.

**Gitsplitta**

Yggdrasil wrote:It's too bad, I quite liked the idea of it...

Maybe it's not they forgot about their hero/relic, but were cut out from it (unbeatable foe, overwhelming invasion force, Inquisitorial ban, etc...) and could only wait but for a proper time to reach it back again. And when they do, they're in such a dire situation that they had to get it back into the fray without much maintenance (or at least re-painting).

That's kind of what I was thinking... maybe the dread had a section of hillside or building collapse and bury him, so the suit goes into "life sustain only" mode and sends out a weak recovery signal. It's only centuries later when the planet is recaptured and the marines are close enough to receive the signal that the dread is recovered.

On a side note, I have problems too with the FW Seismic Hammer, I was considering buying a FW Ironclad these last days, but that deterred me from doing it... Come one, it doesn't even look like a hammer! At least, on the GW one, you can guess the vibrations it can produce!

When I look at it I think "jackhammer"... so it makes sense to me well enough.

**Yggdrasil**

"jackhammer"?? What is this? ("Blood? Hope this is not Chris' blood?!" sorry for the reference

)

**Gitsplitta**

Jackhammer = air-powered chisel for blowing apart concrete

The giant, crane-mounted versions that construction crews use for taking out old roads are pretty impressive. I assume that's where the inspiration for the FW Seismic Hammer came from.

...and... I don't get the reference... is it a Twilight thing?

**Yggdrasil**

I didn't know that...

As for the reference... I can hint at it, it's from the very first moments of a 90's video game...

Another quote, 2 minutes before the first one : "Jill, run to the house!"

**Solar_lion**

Either works for me. remember this is a big universe. If the can lose a STC, S meaniing STANDARD, for the like of forever. It's not hard to lose a dread or two.

I like to centuries unclaimed idea. The original idea for me. Not only a veteran hero but a relic of the past. After all is not the SW bjorn dreadnaught been around since the HH?. Anything and everything works with this brother.

**fatty**

or a mtx jackhammer a 110 kilo heavy sub woofer the biggest of its kind. that would be awesome a gansta dread

sorry bout the off topic. how much tranq vets are there in your army for adepticon right now? maybe its better too make a green dread? plus i think you can make a green dread more like the image you portra with your little story

**Yggdrasil**

It could go with green, I agree... Otherwise it'll lose the "special" type, if 2/3 of the Army is in Tranq camo...

**Gitsplitta**

No, this one is going to be a T-vet. The rest of my dreads (I have 5 others) are all normal... but both of my Mk-IVs are going to be tranquility pattern.

To answer your question fatty, the majority of this army will be tranquility veterans. Just the way it works out fluff-wise.

T-vets: sternguard, MoTF, 2 dreads
Normal: 2 tactical squads + razorbacks

Now my regular mantis warrior army will have the above as the t-vets and everything else will be normal, so even though they dominate my little 1000 pt Adepticon force, they'll be much rarer when you consider the army as a whole.

**btemple0**

Nevermind I type too slow