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Imperial guard, but i presume the Smurfs get there butt kicked sometimes.

I'd fight the Tau, and when we've killed some of them begin to use their tech against them. In time we'd win through attrition, they'd pull back leaving behind damaged and destroyed tech because they can't afford to try and move it as we'd just shoot them. Then we'd take the tech left behind and study it, because we are not ass back wards here on Our Earth which is different from Imperial Terra.

(This whole thing is based of the notion that there exists the Sol System (Holy Terra) and our system, which is an Exact copy of the Sol System, created for some reason by the Old Ones) At least I assume thats what these threads are about.

Tau have actually done some really nasty things with the humans who have joined them. I'd reconsider joining them.

Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:Tau have actually done some really nasty things with the humans who have joined them. I'd reconsider joining them.

you mean like on dark crusade at the end if the tau win they put the humans through an education program where you get chased by a hungry greater knarloc whats trying to eat you and sometimes you do get eaten if one person steps out of line they put you through the education program again unlike the imperials where they just kill the heretic then search for there allies and kill them as well

Space Marine wrote:

Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:Tau have actually done some really nasty things with the humans who have joined them. I'd reconsider joining them.

you mean like on dark crusade at the end if the tau win they put the humans through an education program where you get chased by a hungry greater knarloc whats trying to eat you and sometimes you do get eaten if one person steps out of line they put you through the education program again unlike the imperials where they just kill the heretic then search for there allies and kill them as well

At the end of DC they sterilize everyone and re-educate them, I think you are thinking of FailStorm.

No, Space marine is right, they do put them through "re-education" camps and feed them to greater knarlocs, dirty commies

So they did. Still though it supports my theory of fighting those blue bastards

Lord-Loss wrote:The Imperial get defeated by the Tau, so we would have no chance.

A lasgun isnt to effective vs Tau armour, and are weapons are alot weaker.

Lasguns are mild lasers, i think you will find humanity has alot of VERY superior weaponry

"Tell Rednecks, the irish, and other such peoples that they will enforce a planet wide prohibition "

^ Makes me quite sad.

Also the difference between Fascism and communism is that Fascism is Totalitarian and Capitalist, while Communism is Totalitarian and Socialist.

Could we please have more false interpretetions of political systems?

Or just return to the topic..

Lets assume the worst case scenario:

Tau are in charge here.

Maybe they are already....

Shrike78 wrote:Well, considering how long and bloody the history of Racism, violent religious differences, and plain good old-fashioned don't-show-the-kids violence is in the collective history of earth's combined cultures, I think even a race so far ahead of our own as far as technology goes would be hardpressed to occupy our planet...

As a race we just loooove killing things and if they're blue and we're not that's just another great reason to get up in arms.

Though some might argue that they could take advantage of our disunity, there are a few things that would ensure that all factions fight the invaders:

Tell religous nuts that they're gay
Tell Rednecks, the irish, and other such peoples that they will enforce a planet wide prohibition

Tell Corporations that they will be rergulated

Show the Bloods what they look like without their armor on

Tell most of the U.S. that they're illegal aliens coming to take our jobs

etc

I laughed.

1hadhq wrote:Earth would need to be a barren cold rock to be ever ruled by Tau.
Why should we accept commie space ants as suppressors?

Who is to say we haven't already?


Reading this thread has been amusing. Some of you appear to fling words around without truly understanding there basic meaning and concepts. I've got a hint about one of these words. Every race depicted in 40K would qualify as fascist. This is because Fascism is not really a type of government but rather a morally superior mindset that Dictatorial governments instill within their populace to encourage an unquestioning loyalty to the regime in power and its actions.

Now, The most appropriate descriptor would be of any race in the 40K world would be Totalitarian. Many think Totalitarian and Fascist are the same. This is inaccurate, it is more that they go hand in hand. Fascism being the tool of totalitarian governments.

The next most appropriate descriptor of any race within the 40K universe would be Imperialist(With the possible exception of Tyranids). This is because every race is currently engaged in a constant state of war to expand their territories or protecting the resources for a future expansion.

Now the Tau are a Collectivist species. Collectivist does not equal Communist. When you hear the word collectivist, think a farmers co-op rather than Soviet Russia. Collectivism is more of a pooling of private property and resources for the greater good of the group. Communism there is no private property. Now if anyone points to soviet russia to argue this point please to understand that they were never communist but rather socialist. Before anyone argues that point I invite you to read up on them.

Any other descriptors are irrelevant due to the fact there is not enough background fluff on finances(Is their money and how is it transacted)or Politics(Aside from inter-bueracracy in-fighting within the Imperium) to clealy state any system types clearly.


Later guys, This was quick post and sorry if I sound abrupt. It is not my intention to sound so.

1hadhq wrote:What i ve heard Tau keep their tech to themselves, so your stuck with your old guns.

Ow my, there are misconceptions of actual political systems, and misconceptions of the 40k world here......

Kinda sad.

1hadhq wrote:What i ve heard Tau keep their tech to themselves, so your stuck with your old guns.

Well sometimes they do a little tinkering with thier allies' guns. Why do you think that kroot guns have a chance of killing stuff?

Tau would be awesome if they ruled earth (if you were a tau and not human though!) Tau don't like humans I think, they call them guers'va or something it means lowest rank or something.

If the Tau ruled the Earth there would probably be world wide segregation. The
Tau sectors of the planet would be cultural megacenters filled with librarys and
research centers, but the Human sectors would look like the bad side of Detroit.

I think President Obama is a proxy Tau and the congress are his etherial caste buddies.

They want to take from those of us who work hard to better ourselves and give to those who don't work For The Greater Good.

augustus5 wrote:I think President Obama is a proxy Tau and the congress are his etherial caste buddies.

They want to take from those of us who work hard to better ourselves and give to those who don't work For The Greater Good.

The Tau would force everyone to work. Those that wouldn't would be dragged behind the storage shed and shot.

If the Tau controlled Earth they'd brainwash us all by putting small propaganda boxes in our homes telling us what to and how to think and behave in what they deem as socially acceptable behaviour.

Ever notice that TV got really popular after the 1947 Roswell crash?

But seriously, if they controlled Earth it'd be same gak, different day. "Meet the new Boss. Same as the old Boss."

We would when in the assault.

They would make so >.> <.< NO MORE BABIES! and they will let kroot eat us/fling poop at us if we fight back.

Xav wrote:Well they have superior tech and could easily kill us all, and i think the whole world united under a communist banner would be great.

Yeah man, Communism is great! Just look at North Korea!

corpsesarefun wrote:

This is the second post you have failed with your knowledge of politics, the tau are closer to communism (the opposite of facism).

Actually, Fascism is a stepping stone to communism. Fascism maintains a market, but private ownership is curtailed and the state is the largest consumer of goods.

As good communists, the Tau would have a 5 year plan to "Modernize" Earth. Human collaborators would most likely act as guards, guides and overseers to the general human workforce.

Why is every one saying that Tau are power hungry fascist rulers?Fascism is defined as the strong rule and must defeat the weak. Tau is definately not Fascist. Unless your thick as mud you should see that it is actually the oppisite. They encourage diversity and give the race the option to join in "The Greater Good" before blowing up the planet. In a way the Imperium is a Fascist government. Yeah yeah. I know what your going to say " Blasphemy, die heretic!"But here me out. Every world is obligated to raise armies and produce war material.That is simalar to WWII germany and Italy where every males over age had to serve 2 compulsory years in milatary service. Second there are ruling overlords who want to rule the galaxy through war. Sounds alot like Hitler speaking does it not? And now I know what you are going to say. "We said Tau are Communists!" Communism is a type of fascist goverment that use the morale "You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar." By telling the workers that they are the foundation of the the country they have the civillian vote to stay in power. This is NOT like Tau rule. They strive for union in common cause, and unlike Fascistim where there is only one Grand Ruler supported by a few consel members, there is more than one ruler and they probably have a diplomat from each caste.

Tau are still commies.

Look at their ruling caste.
Communist party anyone?

If you like those fascist examples soo much, remember that most of them were "socialists " too.
The Red and the brown are not so different as you want to believe.
Plus dont forget most tyrants have a bunch of supportes....

So yes, working without benefits for an illusionary goal is communism at its purest.

Caste = Class /= Communist

Communism is a classless society and as much as the fluff alludes to a system of equality the presence of the caste system precludes communism.

Try again

That is not enough proof. Fasistism and communism have social hiearchies. Tau rule is based on an equal basis(like democracy)where everyone needs each others skills. The only reason the Etherals rule is because they show exceptional leadership.
And Ihadhq using your proof you are,in essence, calling your beloved Imperium a Communist/Fascist government. Remember that the humans of the imperium believe they are all-powerful and perfect and that they must purge the galaxy of the weak xenos.

Beastmaster wrote:The tau may have superior tech, but the human race is FAR more numerous than the tau. Even if they have superior tech, they would be outnumbered and outgunned. We'll stick it to those blue commie space ants!

Yes...an Empire that spans several planets is less populous than Earth....?

logic fail.