Author |
Message |
 |
|
 |
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/06 01:18:08
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
Grand Rapids Metro
|
Stern with Retinue of 6 Terminators and an attatched Grand Master inside a Crusader. Add some powers like Hammerhand and Holocaust...wipes the floor with 8 Bloodcrushers.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/06 01:29:04
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
|
Mine is Assault Terminators and Vulkan in a Landraider. Original, I know.
|
Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/06 01:35:00
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
|
I play chaos, we don't have one.
Our best cc units aren't fearless, and if you give them the re-rollable morale check banner, they're not as good in cc. Characters are laughable, even Abaddon "Slitwrist" Despoiler. FNP units lack cc ability, cc units lack FNP. Chosen are terrible and cost too much, landraiders don't carry enough to get a good unit anywhere fast...
Need I go on? The best unit I've ever fielded that was close to a death star was when I went Legion-style and brought a 20-man squad of chaos marines with the Icon of Tzeentch. Generally they could gun down anything with 40 shots of their bolters, and when the survivors charged in afterwards they went first with 40 attacks. It was actually pretty devastating. I just wish chaos had some unique special vehicle that could carry 20 models!
|
40k Armies I play:
Glory for Slaanesh!
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/06 01:36:25
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
|
۞ Jack ۞ wrote:Being a nid player, star units arent really an option 
Swarmlord/Tyrant with a decked out Guard? 3 God-fexes?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/06 01:45:30
Subject: Re:Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
|
Ghazghkull
Dok Grotsnik
10x Diversified Nobz; 4 PK, 6 BC, Waagh! Banner, a few kombi-skorchas, all with Cybork Bodies.
In a Battlewagon with a Deff Rolla, armor, riggers and red paint, comes to about 960-970 points.
I get a 21-27" charge range, with 24 S7 WS5 attacks and 28 S9-10 WS5+ PK attacks, which is enough to put down virtually any other unit in the game right quick.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/06 01:45:47
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
Chaos Space Marines have some amazingly obvious "Deathstar" units, with the most obvious being three Obliterators, Abbadon, and Typhus.
Interestingly the Chaos Space Marines also include an anti-Deathstar unit, Lucius the Eternal.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/06 16:10:05
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
|
Monster Rain wrote:Mine is Assault Terminators and Vulkan in a Landraider. Original, I know. 
Hey, no way, you stole my build! I bet you have MM/ HF Land Speeders somewhere in your list too...you big jerk...
|
You brighten my life like a polystyrene hat, but it melts in the sun like a life without love, and I've waited for you so I'll keep holding on without you.
"There's nothing cooler than being proud of the things that you love" - Sean Plott
Gold League - Terran |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/06 23:21:12
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
|
Centurian99 wrote:Only done this once. 8 Bloodcrushers with full upgrades, 3 Heralds of Khorne on juggernauts, and Skulltaker on a juggernaut.
Watching Logan Grimnar and 20 SW Terminators spend 6 turns running away from them was funny.
how many points was this?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 00:06:42
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Dominar
|
Here's a true Death Star:
Lemartes
29 Death Company with Thammers and Jump Packs, Boltguns, and 6x hand meltas
2125 Points
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 04:17:00
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
Mechanicsville, IA
|
Marbo is my death star.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 04:38:52
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
|
Here is my daemon deathstar:
Skulltaker/Juggernaught
Herald/Juggernaught, Unholy Might, Blessing of hte Blood God, Fury of Khorne
6x Blood Crusher/Icon, Instrument, Fury
Surprised no one has listed Wolf Lords on thunderwolves with TWC:
Wolf Lord/Thunderwolf mount, wolftooth necklace, runic armor, stormshield, thunderhammer, Saga of hte Bear
Wolf Lord/Thunderwolf mount, wolftooth necklace, runic armor, stormshield, frost axe, Saga of the Warrior
5x Thunderwolves/fully complex, stormshields, thunderhammer
To say you have a deathstar unit it's going to have to stand up to these two, otherwise it's not really a deathstar. I remember one game versus Necrons with my daemons, first turn they drop beside the Necron flank. Necrons fire everything they've got into my Khorne deathstar and can't even remove one full Blood Crusher. Next turn I combi charge the Necron army and phase it out.
G
G
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/07 05:16:16
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 05:05:45
Subject: Re:Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Bounding Assault Marine
|
For my Marines it's a 5 man Vangaurd Veteran Unit
x1 Sergeant w/Jump Pack, Relic Blade & Storm Shield
x4 Vangaurd w/Jump Pack, Power Sword & Storm Shield
One of these days I'll have to bring them up to 10 man
For my Orks it's Mad Dok Grotsnik and 180 CyboGrotz
|
No good will come of this, No good at all
WAAAGH! FOR THE EMPEROR!
Midnight Dragons: 2000pts Wins 3 Loses 1 Draws 0
The Fox Knights: 4218pts Wins 1 Loses 2 Draws 0
King Krumpz Boyz: 2965pts Wins 1 Loses 1 Draws 1
Tigrus Vespa Hive: Spawning Wins 3 Loses 5 Draws 0
500-pts |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 05:14:43
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Servoarm Flailing Magos
|
It's not a death star, per se, but it is a darn tough unit to kill: BA Assault Terminators outfitted with TH/SS and combined with a Sanguinary Priest... 2+ armor, 3++ save, and FNP? Brutal. It takes a lot of attacks to take this unit down.
|
http://www.teun135miniaturewargaming.blogspot.com/ https://www.instagram.com/teun135/
Foxphoenix135: Successful Trades: 21
With: romulus571, hisdudeness, Old Man Ultramarine, JHall, carldooley, Kav122, chriachris, gmpoto, Jhall, Nurglitch, steamdragon, DispatchDave, Gavin Thorne, Shenra, RustyKnight, rodt777, DeathReaper, LittleCizur, fett14622, syypher, Maxstreel |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 05:19:20
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
|
Here is a Space Marine deathstar:
Captain Lysander
Vulkan
5x assault terminator/SS&TH
Landraider Crusader/extra armor, pintle mounted storm bolter, pintle mounted multi-melta
G
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 05:44:02
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Bounding Assault Marine
|
Black Blow Fly wrote:Here is a Space Marine deathstar:
Captain Lysander
Vulkan
5x assault terminator/SS&TH
Landraider Crusader/extra armor, pintle mounted storm bolter, pintle mounted multi-melta
G
Sweet Lord Primus I would not want to run into that in a dark ally...or a big open field for that matter
|
No good will come of this, No good at all
WAAAGH! FOR THE EMPEROR!
Midnight Dragons: 2000pts Wins 3 Loses 1 Draws 0
The Fox Knights: 4218pts Wins 1 Loses 2 Draws 0
King Krumpz Boyz: 2965pts Wins 1 Loses 1 Draws 1
Tigrus Vespa Hive: Spawning Wins 3 Loses 5 Draws 0
500-pts |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 06:01:39
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Water-Caste Negotiator
|
It was probably my 3rd game of 40k, I got my ass handed to me by a Tau Farsight seven samurai drop bomb, it was more than half the other army's points.
|
Waaagh! |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 06:24:35
Subject: Re:Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
|
I think I have two, one I'm thinking of dropping, but the other will never die.
One way or another, the Nobz Blob has been a staple of my ork lists. It normally pulls it's weight when I need it to. However, it is a massive point sink, and is very predictable and easy to counter, if my KFF wagon fails even one force-field save the nob-rush is stopped cold.
One thing can't be stopped as easily, and that's Snikrot's Red Skull Kommandos (14 and Snikrot, two boyz carrying burnas) They hardly ever make their points back, but they always affect my opponent. Where's snikrot going to come in? And when? Guess I better wall my rhinos up, or deploy closer to the center. Or pull units back to defend my vulnerable bitz. He may not have made his points back (mostly due to bad tactical choices on my part) but he always affects the game, and my opponent, in my favor. Even if I drop the Nobz mob, the Red Skulls will continue to be a part of my army lists.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 07:06:01
Subject: Re:Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Water-Caste Negotiator
Scarborough Ontario Canada
|
5 Piranha
each with Fusion Blaster and Flachette Discharger
3 with Target Locks and Disruption Pods
405 points in my 1500 point list
This unit it nearly essential for my current army list. I play a very agressive Tau list and this unit provides much needed cover saves and physically blocks assaulters or units with short range weapons. Not to mention it is a great anti tank force with 5 split firing BS 5 (with markerlights) meltas on fast skimmers. It is also a really hard unit to get rid of. Most infantry units up to TH termies should get crippled by the Flachettes before striking in assault and 6s to hit usually takes care of the rest. Outside of 12 inches it takes over 30 lascannon shots on average to destroy the unit at BS 4.
Should my opponent get rid of most of the Piranha early I may well face an uphill game as a large number of my tactics depend on the Piranha and their associated drones.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/07 07:08:16
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 07:52:31
Subject: Re:Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
|
H3ct0r wrote:5 Piranha each with Fusion Blaster and Flachette Discharger 3 with Target Locks and Disruption Pods. I don't think you understand what a 'deathstar' unit is. The only deathstar unit Tau can take is the Farsight bomb, as has already been mentioned above.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/07 07:53:03
You brighten my life like a polystyrene hat, but it melts in the sun like a life without love, and I've waited for you so I'll keep holding on without you.
"There's nothing cooler than being proud of the things that you love" - Sean Plott
Gold League - Terran |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 07:54:24
Subject: Re:Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
|
unbeliever87 wrote:Farsight bomb.
Quick question, what exactly is this? I assume it's where commander farsight deepstrikes or something with a bunch of suits.
|
2000 pts |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 08:05:06
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
|
Land Raider-
Kharne the Betrayer, 9 beserkers
It's a lot, but when it get's out, nothing is going to survive.
|
Chaos Space Marines, The Skull Guard: 4500pts
Fists of Dorn: 1500pts
Wood Elves, Awakened of Spring: 3425pts |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 08:06:55
Subject: Re:Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
|
Gavo wrote:unbeliever87 wrote:Farsight bomb.
Quick question, what exactly is this? I assume it's where commander farsight deepstrikes or something with a bunch of suits.
You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Farsight can take an absurd amount of Crisis Suits as his retinue, all of which can take Plasma Rifles/Fusion Blasters and all other sorts of fun weapons. The unit can also take wargear such as Shield Drones and Failsafe Detonators to make the unit relatively safe from assault and sweeping advances. It costs over 1000 points, and I doubt it would survive a real assault from many of the units listed above, but it's the best deathstar that Tau can get.
|
You brighten my life like a polystyrene hat, but it melts in the sun like a life without love, and I've waited for you so I'll keep holding on without you.
"There's nothing cooler than being proud of the things that you love" - Sean Plott
Gold League - Terran |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 08:27:36
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Major
|
30 grots some peaple think they are op "wtf"
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 08:33:54
Subject: Re:Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Revving Ravenwing Biker
|
Marbo is my death star.
QFT
|
-Any terrain containing Sly Marbo is dangerous terrain.
-Sly Marbo once played an objective mission just to see what it was like to not meet every victory condition on his own.
-Sly Marbo bought a third edition rulebook just to play meat grinder as the attacker.
-Marbo doesn't need an Eldar farseer as an ally; his enemies are already doomed
-Sly Marbo was originally armed with a power weapon, but he dropped it while assaulting a space marine command squad just so his enemies could feel pain
-Sly Marbo still attacks the front armor value in assault, for pity's sake. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 08:36:42
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Foolproof Falcon Pilot
|
FoxPhoenix135 wrote:It's not a death star, per se, but it is a darn tough unit to kill: BA Assault Terminators outfitted with TH/SS and combined with a Sanguinary Priest... 2+ armor, 3++ save, and FNP? Brutal. It takes a lot of attacks to take this unit down.
Yep..brutal, until they stare down a 10 man unit of Firedragons at a mesely 160 points... lol
Actually, any army that spams AP1-2 weapons, powerweapons/rending laught at such a unit....all they get is their 3++...it's the same as shooting normal marines with autocannons or heavy bolers at that point, and we all know how fast tac marines die
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 08:57:37
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
Lost in the warp while searching for a new codex
|
10 Fire Dragons will kill 2 Termies...However with a threat range of 12 inches I wouldnt worry about Assault Termies.
I avoid death star units at pretty mych all cost.
|
I cannot believe in a God who wants to be praised all the time.
15k
10k |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 09:22:04
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
CT
|
tedurur wrote:
10 Fire Dragons will kill 2 Termies...However with a threat range of 12 inches I wouldnt worry about Assault Termies.
QFT I wouldn't be worried about the termies either.
I would be worried about that Landraider that is making it's way towards my lines that said Termies are riding in.
A hammer without an arm to swing it is just a lump of metal.
Cheers,
~Volkan
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 11:27:19
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
|
Alerian wrote:
Actually, any army that spams AP1-2 weapons, powerweapons/rending laught at such a unit....all they get is their 3++...it's the same as shooting normal marines with autocannons or heavy bolers at that point, and we all know how fast tac marines die 
Haha. That's like saying 'all' Land Raiders have going for them is their AV14, or that 'all' Broadsides have going for them is their Railguns.
The difference between 3+ and 3++ is that there aren't many units in the game that can spam AP1/2 as easily as AP4+. Fire Dragons are a bad example for the reason Tedurur pointed out below.
|
You brighten my life like a polystyrene hat, but it melts in the sun like a life without love, and I've waited for you so I'll keep holding on without you.
"There's nothing cooler than being proud of the things that you love" - Sean Plott
Gold League - Terran |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 12:32:45
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Foolproof Falcon Pilot
Somewhere in the unknown universe.
|
Avatar. plain, simple, and true
|
Manchu wrote:Agamemnon2 wrote:
Congratulations, that was the stupidest remark the entire wargaming community has managed to produce in a long, long time.
Congratulations, your dismissive and conclusory commentary has provided nothing to this discussion or the wider community on whose behalf you arrogantly presume to speak nor does it engage in any meaningful way the remark it lamely targets. But you did manage to gain experience points toward your next level of internet tough guy. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 12:33:29
Subject: Your "Death Star"
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
|
Alerian wrote:
Actually, any army that spams AP1-2 weapons, powerweapons/rending laught at such a unit....all they get is their 3++...it's the same as shooting normal marines with autocannons or heavy bolers at that point, and we all know how fast tac marines die 
A 3++ save isn't really all that worried about such things, since AP1-2 weapons tend to have a low rate of fire and aren't going to hit every time they are fired.
My TH/ SS Terminators and their friend the TDA/ SS Librarian laughed off the shooting of three Medusas and a squadron of 3 Demolishers once. It still makes me happy to think about.
|
Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. |
|
 |
 |
|