Codex Updates.... The latest.

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**evilsponge**

There's always a Marine codex for every other update, its just the way it is, always will be. They're easy to do and great for profits. Forget about getting a new race, its just not happening. Necrons and =I= are in the works, alot of talk about Grey Knights coming soon. Sorry your army of choice isn't getting the attention you want, but suck it up, DE deserve this.

**bhsman**

Red, what does this mean for Daemonhunters players?

Kid_Kyoto wrote:If this is true can we then get back to whinning for a squat codex?

I'm sure you'll find other things to whine about.

**evilsponge**

edit: double post

**mrwittwer**

Flashman wrote:Huzzah! I have no intention of collecting them, but I'm dying to see what 12 years of games development does to a splinter rifle.

Prolly nothing.

**Clthomps**

I am going to be so happy if this is true!

Also really pissed since I just started finishing all the sails on my raiders....

**J'santai Khan**

Good news if it's true, but these posts are the reason I keep the trusty salt shaker close to the keyboard - just in case! LOL!!

**Nightwatch**

mrwittwer wrote:
Flashman wrote:Huzzah! I have no intention of collecting them, but I'm dying to see what 12 years of games development does to a splinter rifle.

Prolly nothing.

They've had a lot of time to get splinterier.

**juraigamer**

Nightwatch wrote:
gil gerard wrote:maybe some updated Tau models

What needs updating besides Kroot Hounds?

Really? Geeze one more model should just jump out at you due to how much green stuff you need to fill it's gaps.

Anyway:

Krootox
skyray/hammerhead box merger, since if you buy a skyray you also get all the hammerhead parts...
Many will say the crisis suits, need plastic forge world models or something comparable

Aside from that... making the half of the tau codex that most (95%) of players don't use useable. Oh and their busted wargear and joke-tackular special characters.

**Buttlerthepug**

This would quite disapoint me to be honest... Dark Elder (40k), some fantasy, black templar (40k), necrons (40k)...

hmmm needless to say Id like to see some of the out of date fantasy army books to be redone...

**AgeOfEgos**

Best GW sculptor: Check
Best GW Game Designer: Check
Me finally collecting another Xenos army: Check
Wife making a joke about me collecting another army: Check

**Defiler**

Kervin wrote: Congrats on your patience DE players if the is true.

There hasn't been any patience hahaha.

**Grunt_For_Christ**

I'm thirsty after reading this whole thread. But red (or anyone else), do you have any news about chaos? I've been debating on whether or not to start one up and wanted to see if there's anything out there to say whether or not they might be getting a new book.

**Noisy_Marine**

*Sigh* more space marines ... that aren't' chaos!! Oh well, looking forward to dark eldar.

**SlaveToDorkness**

Dark Eldar, the Chinese Democracy of wargaming.

**Railguns**

reds8n wrote:
Klueless wrote:I'm not sure if this is old news or not. I have just looked through the most recent posts & haven't seen anything about it.....

I have it on good authority that Dark Eldar are the next army to have a new Codex. This is apparently to be released in conjunction with some fantasy rules/models update.
This will be in a few months & apparently they are being 'test' played atm.

Nope.

Playtesting etc is well and truly finished.

Book is at the printers.

I don't believe you. (arms crossed on chest)

**Brother SRM**

gil gerard wrote:Oh joy, another new revision is in store for Space Marines! This is on the heels of Blood Angels, I think Space Wolves also got some new stuff, now we are reviseing Black Templars...Aren't the current Templar models still relevent?...Shouldn't we focus on updateing some of the armies that are still trailing from 3rd and 4th addition rulesets before doing more marine rules? I think Necrons could use a good reboot, could care less about Dark Eldar, I always thought the models were lousy, and the concept was somewhat silly as well. I wish they could focus on finishing some of the stuff that has been "in the works" for too long; like plastic stormtroopers and roughriders for IG, maybe some updated Tau models, or new Inquisition stuff. I would desperatly like to see some new armies for 40k, maybe AdMech? or renegade guardsmen (not the crazy expensive FW ones), maybe a new plastic guard army (instead of Catachan add on units, who plays Catachans?) But GW keeps rolling out some new re-vamp on Marines every 2 months, and I don't see where re-doing the Dark Eldar line is gonna be any big hit, either. The Necron revision will probably be somewhat successful, other two are a waste.

Holy hell, quit your bitching about Marines. They could redo Codex: Blood Angels immediately after Dark Eldar and I wouldn't care, since it's been over a decade since the Dark Eldar had their codex release, not counting the stopgap "second edition" that didn't even come with new models if I recall. This is like whining that you won the lottery because you have to go pay gas money to drive to the bank.

**Defiler**

SlaveToDorkness wrote:Dark Eldar, the Chinese Democracy of wargaming.

DE has CD beat by one year, if the rumors hold true.

**mrwittwer**

Brother SRM wrote:. This is like whining that you won the lottery because you have to go pay gas money to drive to the bank.

I lol'd.

And its going in the sig.

**Defiler**

Brother SRM wrote:
gil gerard wrote:Oh joy, another new revision is in store for Space Marines! This is on the heels of Blood Angels, I think Space Wolves also got some new stuff, now we are reviseing Black Templars...Aren't the current Templar models still relevent?...Shouldn't we focus on updateing some of the armies that are still trailing from 3rd and 4th addition rulesets before doing more marine rules? I think Necrons could use a good reboot, could care less about Dark Eldar, I always thought the models were lousy, and the concept was somewhat silly as well. I wish they could focus on finishing some of the stuff that has been "in the works" for too long; like plastic stormtroopers and roughriders for IG, maybe some updated Tau models, or new Inquisition stuff. I would desperatly like to see some new armies for 40k, maybe AdMech? or renegade guardsmen (not the crazy expensive FW ones), maybe a new plastic guard army (instead of Catachan add on units, who plays Catachans?) But GW keeps rolling out some new re-vamp on Marines every 2 months, and I don't see where re-doing the Dark Eldar line is gonna be any big hit, either. The Necron revision will probably be somewhat successful, other two are a waste.

Holy hell, quit your bitching about Marines. They could redo Codex: Blood Angels immediately after Dark Eldar and I wouldn't care, since it's been over a decade since the Dark Eldar had their codex release, not counting the stopgap "second edition" that didn't even come with new models if I recall. This is like whining that you won the lottery because you have to go pay gas money to drive to the bank.

Really, and on top of that - playing against SW or BA now feels like playing a unique army, instead of just marines with a palette swap.

GET OVER HERE~

**JohnHwangDD**

SlaveToDorkness wrote:Dark Eldar, the Chinese Democracy of wargaming.

GnR took 15 years for CD.

DE got an update, so we should compare with BA, then Woofs.

**carabine**

hrm, chaos elves then crusade nutjobs, eh I believe it.... yeah I believe it.

I mean even if this has no real basis we're down to so few non updated codices that every guess is probable. Except Tau, no love for them from GW.

**apwill4765**

Why do I get so much satisfaction from the tears of those whining about marines getting another codex. A large majority of the fluff written is about marines, the story centers around their desperate struggle to save mankind from just about every other army created. I got news for you guys, if I was going to make a model line in the transformer universe, for example, it would have a bunch of bad-ass robots in it and very very few sam/mikhala dolls in it. Space marines should be the main focus of GW, and I am glad they are.

I'm also extremely happy when the xenos get new codices. I'm happy for new material to come out, period. Why do you guys have to always find something to complain about? BT have waited 5 years, let's see a new codex!

Can't wait for BT.

**Terminus**

I thought GK were much farther along than BT in development. I frankly expect to see the boys in grey before the boys in black.

**Platuan4th**

mrwittwer wrote:
Flashman wrote:Huzzah! I have no intention of collecting them, but I'm dying to see what 12 years of games development does to a splinter rifle.

Prolly nothing.

They gain a Crossbow prod on the front for decoration.

**reds8n**

Terminus wrote:I thought GK were much farther along than BT in development. I frankly expect to see the boys in grey before the boys in black.

Yes, so would I, but that's all a fair old while yet either way I reckon.

Please bear in mind that the book going to the printers still means we are, literally, months away from any release. I haven't got a definate date but end of quarter 3/quarter 4 period sounds about right to me..hell, there could even be anoterh codex before them. I knew the Russ recut was coming, but the "Spearhead" supplement is totally out of the blue.

Which is nice.

..so Mr. Wang might still get his money

.

Again nailing any firm release date out of the 3 month or so period is ....awkward... at least.

But red (or anyone else), do you have any news about chaos?

Nope, sorry.

**Kryppers**

I'm disappointed that BT are being redone. Are our current generation of collectors too dull to proxy Templar models onto another army list if their own isn't quite want they want it to be?

I'm very keen to see the new DE models though.

**Archonate**

apwill4765 wrote:Why do I get so much satisfaction from the tears of those whining about marines getting another codex. A large majority of the fluff written is about marines

The perspective from which a story is told does not define the central figures of that story world. It only defines the central figures of that particular story. The plight of the SMs is really no different from the plight of the Necrons. Or Tyranids. Or Tau. "Stamp out those who are not like us and claim this galaxy." It's the ideology of every race in 40k.

the story centers around their desperate struggle to save mankind from just about every other army created

You make it sound as though Tyranids join hands with Necrons to fight space marines. Of course Space Marines fight against all the other armies... so do all the other armies! There is no central race. Abundance of fluff doesn't make SMs "the main race of the 40k universe" it only makes them the main race of the whatever stories feature them.

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Kryppers wrote:I'm disappointed that BT are being redone. Are our current generation of collectors too dull to proxy Templar models onto another army list if their own isn't quite want they want it to be?

I'm very keen to see the new DE models though.

That's because they'll look completely new and different. New Space Marines look neither new, nor different. The feeling I get from all these DE rumors is that new DE can easily be considered a brand new 40k army/race, so dramatic will be the changes to them.

**Vaktathi**

Defiler wrote:
Really, and on top of that - playing against SW or BA now feels like playing a unique army, instead of just marines with a palette swap.

Eh, they really feel more like "Marines...but *BETTER*...with more (blood,woflyness,etc), and even more Space Marine-y!" Really, at this point, it's all "Space Marines +" and they're all different in the exact same way, that being more assault oriented. BA's are faster with some beefy CC units, while Wolves are Chaos Marines with counterattack and acute senses and cheaper upgrades (for the same base cost).

It's good to hear DE are not only next, but soon. Should be interesting.

**Erasoketa**

Ok, now say that the following codex after DE and BT is SoB and I'll have to sell my car, or maybe ask for a loan >_<'

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SlaveToDorkness wrote:Dark Eldar, the Chinese Democracy of wargaming.

Well... at least I'm happy that it won't be the Duke Nukem Forever of wargaming

**Sidstyler**

Defiler wrote:Really, and on top of that - playing against SW or BA now feels like playing a unique army, instead of just marines with a palette swap.

GET OVER HERE~

lol

Anyway, um...crap. It seems there's a lot of DE talk now and I just realized I have no money. I was hoping I'd have enough saved up to buy a 2000 point army in one go, but I don't have a dime and it looks like the release really is upon us?

...so how much would I get for selling my plasma, anyway?