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I have no problems what-so-ever with GW. I like their products, their prices are reasonable and their staff friendly and helpful.

I mean that. Good job GW, you managed to keep someone in the game for the next 20 years of their life

Hmm...

My problems with GW have caused me to quit buying their products, though I still play (older rules, proxies, etc.).

Where's the opposite of that? I buy their products (at online discounters) but quit playing their games?

I don't hate so much anymore, after almost 20 years of fandom, I just buy everything anyway and put up with the stupid,

The worst of it is:

Rules with no model.
Planned Obsolescence (invalid models/armies).
FAQ apathy.

Plus their superglue makes terrible lube. What's up with that?

Nurglitch wrote:Plus their superglue makes terrible lube. What's up with that?

Try the "pva" glue

Nurglitch wrote:Plus their superglue makes terrible lube. What's up with that?

I found this out the hard way.

Nurglitch wrote:Plus their superglue makes terrible lube. What's up with that?

"Gotta finish building this venomthrope. Oh man, thats a good looking girl!" Take a break "Ahh.... wait, my hand! AH MY HAND!!!!" "SON I HEARD YOU YELLING WHA-OMG WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!?"

I'm not sure exactly what it is that puts me off to GW. I usually refer to it as "Disney-ism". It's the incredibly fake notion that they are the only game in town. They've gotten so big that they discourage any sort of creativity, which is the beauty of miniature wargaming to begin with. Any conversions or terrain they showcase is from GW parts, down to the wheels on the seige towers. I guess it's all just in the attitude that I feel that they radiate, showcased in every photograph of a gamer in one of their publications who looks like they just had an orgasm from measuring charge distance. Even Golden Demon has gotten that way. They discourage creativity, because they just want you to paint one of their stock models really well so that they can put it in the next army book.

I complain about the often prices increases and the miserably translated rulebooks and codeci.

That doesn't stop me from buying GW products at discount from FLGS.

I stopped buying GW stuff around December. Partly because of the whole community crackdown, partly because of price, but mostly because FoW seems better. It's now been nine months since my last GW purchase.

I may have come back for 8th ed., but a $90 rulebook really didn't help.

I love my local Games Workshop, and support them to the fullest. I wouldn't go to a 3rd party seller unless they have something I can't get otherwise.

My problem with GW is more to do with people who dislike them for their own reasons, but then apply a giant paintbrush onto all hobbyists and assume that everyone else also hates GW.

I mean, the poll has effectively 4 "I hate GW" options and 1 "I don't have any real problems" option, which still doesn't give the possibility of having no problems with them whatsoever.

I like GW, and the only problem that I have with them is that I don't have enough time to paint or play, so I have plenty of time to save up for various models.

I like GW and actually think they are doing a pretty good job, business wise. I'll continue to buy their products, though I do advice people to support FLGS before GW stores or online discounters. PAY WHERE YOU PLAY PEOPLE

I buy their products exclusively from independents, and only pay full RRP at actual brick-and-mortar stores. Today I walked out of a GW directly to another hobby store where I bought Citadel brushes at the same price. I wouldn't take the discount at a shop with gaming tables even if they offered it.

I personally have nothing against GW, my local store is great, the staff are ace, they even gave me a job interview we the recession hit me in the face! and i still get offers for a paid trip to Warhammer World as part of their management recuitment drive.

I get non of this pushy sales stuff i here on this site, plus any of the other rubbish people spout about on here.

Yes the models are a little expensive, espically if you live in the states or Oz. But let me put it this way. £15 gets me ten IG troops, £1.50 each, i spend what 4/5 hours to paint them then every wednesday i put them to war, for my £1.50 i've had many hours of entertainment for that, compair that to a DVD at £10 for two hour film i'll watch twice, maybe three times. Work that out.

Plus to top it all off i'm also a vinyl collector & DJ, i've spent nearly 2k on equipment and 8k on vinyl in 10 years, generally i can pay £5/6 for one record, the chances are it only has one track i wont to listen to on. In comparrison to djing this hobby is relativly cheep

Nightbringer's Chosen wrote:Pitchforks and/or torches.
It's so embarrassing, though, when everyone brings one and no one brings the other.
*sigh* Angry mobs are so hard to coordinate.

I thought that was brilliant. I'm still giggling 10 minutes after first reading it

I don't have the time or energy to 'hate' GW'. They provide me with a hobby that (despite increasing time constraints) still gives me a lot of pleasure. Besides, there are so many much bigger arseholes out there, including the investment banks that manipulate the financial system and screw with the way listed companies like GW are run. Save your hate for them. GW make models which I (mostly) like, and they're now making stuff that I never though I'd see, like Stompa kits and superbly designed Blood Angels. Their rules are imperfect, and their approach inconsistent, but it's swings and roundabouts - when WD was full of weird and wonderful stuff and their rules were better supported, the models weren't nearly as good, or as plentiful. 2nd Edition WH40k had regular codexes and loads of support, but it was (IMO) a cumbersome, tedious games system; 3rd Edition was (at least initially) a dynamic and enjoyable system, but the model support was inadequate and increasingly variable in quality. I also think GW struggles to address a very diverse (and fickle) customer base with relatively limited resources. Maybe it's also cultural. I work for a UK-based employer, and I can tell you that consistency, transparency and long-term strategy are not their strong suits.

Well, I generally have no problem with GW, although I don't usually frequent their stores. I do have one near by, but it always seems a bit chaotic (no pun intended!) when I go in there, with wall to wall people, models, and noise. My FLGS is closer, quieter, and has more room to play. Plus, the owner started offering 10% off GW stuff after the last price rise.

I stayed away for ten years and explored a lot of games I thought (and still think) are much better. But WH40K is here for me when I really need it. So no more hate from me, I have issued public retractions of all the venomous things I have said on the forums I said them on, and figure I have learned my lesson. So I don't hate GW anymore, and am trying to raise their stock values again.

Meh, they're a money grabber, and while PP and other such companies are expensive too, at least they give two gaks about the fanbase.

Cryonicleech wrote:Meh, they're a money grabber, and while PP and other such companies are expensive too, at least they give two gaks about the fanbase.

Trust me, the people at the top of PP are very interested in getting your money.)

My only complaint is that where I live the nearest GW store is 6 hours away, and when I get to that store there is several small children there. Now mind you, I don't care that the kids are there, but I have been playing 40K since day one, and I don't need a 12 year old, snot-nosed kid telling me how to run my army. Parents: Please teach your kids how to play the game, before letting them loose on real gamers. *Rant over*

So to answer the question, I only go to GW stores 2-3 times a year, buy what I want, then drive home as fast as I can, and assemble my newly bought "Crack".

I have no real problem with GW, though i do complain at their prices sometimes, and that, along with other things, has stopped me buying certain things from them, but not whole game systems.

I have been to GW store all over the US, and I have to say my best experience was at the GW in Detroit. I was on business in Auburn Hills, and stopped at the big mall there. Very courtieous workers, and they quickly rang me up, without any hassels.

mikhaila wrote:Trust me, the people at the top of PP are very interested in getting your money.

Oh definitely. The moves they are slowly making suggest that.

I used to be quite angry with GW, but then, I used to be quite angry about a lot of things. These days, I just think their stuff is far too overpriced and they have a really lazy attitude towards game design. I don't like how they approach their fans, either. But I find it hard to work up any real ire. I just buy a lot less stuff from them, and have branched out into other games. I don't see a point to some sort of moral stand against them, because I think my wallet is the only thing they'll listen to anyway. They still produce some of the best plastic kits in the business, but I'm really happy to see real competition coming their way from some of the newer companies starting out.
Other companies like PP and Rackam have their share of issues anyway (fugly models for PP and...welll, let's not go there with Rackam, eh? )

Some of there prices are ok for some stuff then other stuff is absurd, like the 5 terminator boxed sets! (for that price they should be bloody gold not resin) I try to get what I can of ebay or resellers now for that reason, anything to get the cost down a bit.

I've spent enough on Plastic Crack. Nowadays, unless it's a pot of paint, I only trade for new stuff.

Frak them.

Skermish games and the couple of hundred other interesting companies out there need my money more then GW wants it.

I don't hate something I don't need to. I don't have enough time for thier brand of poindexter anymore.

Karon wrote:Where is "I resent GW for its idiocy and neglecting of its fanbase, and buy from a discount retailer (Wayland Games)"

Ditto

I hate GW for the various threads it produces by people whining about GW.

I hate GW for holding a gun to my head and making me buy their miniatures and for kidnapping my wife and children because only they are that evil.

In all seriousness I hate GW for the abomination that was the 3.5 CSM codex. Actually hate is TOO strong of a word. They redeemed themselves by coming out with a daemon army that is standalone and excellent new plastics and metals for that army. I look forward to the next Daemon codex in about 2-3 years.

Oh yeah, GW also kicked my dog. How dare they?