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That would pretty much guarantee that I never buy another one.

Although I have a few small armies I dont actively play 40k. I have codexes for most of them. Its fairly likely I pick up the new Necron codex, if its at the current price point. For $50 I will surely not buy it. Ill either wait and get one used on ebay or find it in PDF format somewhere.

I'd better see about 300 pages of fluff if they ever went to HC.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:If true, I look forward to the GW spinspeil on how cool these books are for an awesome gaming experience!

The new books will be 4'x4' so you can fold them open and play a game of 40k right there on the book! Convenience!

If there was $50 worth of rules, fluff, painting and modeling content, I wouldn't mind. The rumored Orc rulebook is rumored to be thicker than any other book and full-color, so who knows.

If this does happen, then WHFB is going to be dead to me.
And if it hits 40k :/
Then I may have to find myself a cheaper hobby.
Or go back to Epic/BFG/BB
Or indeed LotR...

alphaomega wrote:
And if it hits 40k :/
Then I may have to find myself a cheaper hobby.
Or go back to Epic/BFG/BB

GW minis + a better rules system = win.

There are several good 25/28mm game systems that offer creations rules. Pick one, recruit your friends, make rules for your armies and play. Best part is you can make you army exactly the way you want it, not how GW (or others) want it.

Flashman wrote:Sorry, as somebody made the "pants on head slowed" comment, I couldn't resist

A-wooble.

Mr Mystery wrote:Seriously, they cost far, far more to produce than a paperback, so I don't see GW's cost cutting drive really marrying up with this.

Could well be wrong though. This is just speculation on my count.

They really don't though, my wife worked for a printer and (unless they were very small print runs) hardbacks only cost marginally more than their equivalent paperbacks. Though the shipping is slightly higher. You look at bestsellers in highstreet bookshops and the hardcover is always double the cost of the paperback, it's nonsense. But people do seem to like hardbacks.

I would buy a really, really good Codex: Sisters of Battle for $50, but I have my doubts that GW has the skills to do it.

I wouldn't buy any of the other books, like I did with the 3.5 Chaos Codex.

plastictrees wrote:

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:If true, I look forward to the GW spinspeil on how cool these books are for an awesome gaming experience!

The new books will be 4'x4' so you can fold them open and play a game of 40k right there on the book! Convenience!

Which will also mess up the people planning to 'find a PDF somewhere'

They wouldn't really make them 4'x4'?

Would they?

Seriously I wonder how long before someone realizes that most home scanners are only so large and by making books larger they're really hard to scan. A year or two back DC did something called Wednesday COmics, a comic about the size of a newspaper. It was supposedly to make it feel like reading the Sunday comics but also to defeat scanners.

We'll all be carrying around medieval folios before too long.

Mad4Minis wrote:

alphaomega wrote:
And if it hits 40k :/
Then I may have to find myself a cheaper hobby.
Or go back to Epic/BFG/BB

GW minis + a better rules system = win.

There are several good 25/28mm game systems that offer creations rules. Pick one, recruit your friends, make rules for your armies and play. Best part is you can make you army exactly the way you want it, not how GW (or others) want it.

Something that might be worth looking at in the near future then

methinks army case just to carry the sodding book knowing our luck

This wouldn't change my stance on pirated books. If I wanted to play with a
specific army, I'd pay the fifty dollars for the book or not even bother with the
game at all. (I still haven't bought the 40k rulebook).

This would change my buying habits for casual reading.

At 50USD it better have full color, good photographs of well painted models
and original artwork, and well tested rules.

Hrm.

I recall an argument much like this (though not on here) just before the Libre Chaotica books were released.


My suspicion is that someone has gotten hold of a rumour about a special edition book (like the super-expensive core rulebook special editions that GW do) and has decided to poke the hornets nest with it.

At $20, I bought a lot of Codices. Nearly all of them for 3E.

Then GW bumped the price to $25. For me, softcovers at $25 are a stretch. And I cut back to buying maybe half of them.

Right now, I might pay $5 extra for a hardcover, so my upper price point is $30. The content simply isn't there to justify paying more. And even then, I'd wait until I was really sure I wanted one.

At $50 for a hardcover, no thanks. I'll wait to buy used or on deep discount. If anything, I'll tighten down my Codex buying even further.

On net, the more GW charges, the faster I cut my GW spend. The product is good, but it's not outrageously good enough to justify a superpremium price.

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@KK: I don't want to carry around super-sized books like the Apoc books. A4, and no larger.

Second, for those really large books, does nobody own a high-resolution digital camera?

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

And does this mean the GKs and future Codexes will also be $50 HCs?

Given GW's horrible tradition of erratta and quality control I hope not. They change editions and make too may rules gaffs to be charging that much for a book that has a limited shelf life...

I already have a problem with paying 25.00-30.00 bucks for a codex that I only want about half of (could care less for the fluff, and hobby sections, they're almost always the same old stuff as on the website, or in the previous edition of the codex). I will admit to owning HC editions of Privateer books, and understand their retail price is more than the current GW codex price, but due to the fact that I bought them during the Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales last year, I paid around Codex Price for them.

The 75.00 WHF rulebook already killed Fantasy in my area (not that it was doing so hot before), and by the time that IoB came out, it was too late. I think a 50 dollar codex would do much the same to enticing any new players into 40k. More so than any of their current prices.

I'm somewhat dismayed at the immediately negative reaction here. $50 buck is terrible, without a doubt, and I too would cease to buy any codex/army book if the company was to make a move that slowed, but isn't this just speculation/a rumor? I mean, it's not been confirmed as far as I'm aware...

All I'm saying is that GW should get the hate when it's confirmed, not when it's speculation...

JohnHwangDD wrote:
@KK: I don't want to carry around super-sized books like the Apoc books. A4, and no larger.

Second, for those really large books, does nobody own a high-resolution digital camera?

Yeah but it's such a hassle to photograph every page and make sure the shot is lined up right and the page is flat and the lighting is good, really you'd have to build a lightbox specific for it and then spend ages cleaning it up in photoshop.

Or uh, so I would assume. Not that I'd ever considered it


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Cryonicleech wrote:

All I'm saying is that GW should get the hate when it's confirmed, not when it's speculation...

Welcome to the internet, you must be new here.

Seriously can ANYONE confirm the Orc and Gobo price? We don't even know that for certain.

Cryonicleech wrote:I'm somewhat dismayed at the immediately negative reaction here. $50 buck is terrible, without a doubt, and I too would cease to buy any codex/army book if the company was to make a move that slowed, but isn't this just speculation/a rumor? I mean, it's not been confirmed as far as I'm aware...

All I'm saying is that GW should get the hate when it's confirmed, not when it's speculation...

Then people shouldn't post things until they are confirmed.

The OP did ask what people thought.

This is a discussion forum.

What part don't you get?

I wonder how the change in binding will effect scans.

AgeOfEgos wrote:I wonder how the change in binding will effect scans.

Compare PDFs of GW Codices versus those of FW Imperial Armour books. The paperback codices generally look much sharper.

...not that I'd know...

Cryonicleech wrote:I'm somewhat dismayed at the immediately negative reaction here.

I have a book on my shelf still with its "Under $25" Price Tag. The creep in price over the years just isn't worth it to me, even if it includes extra modeling stuff and the like. That may just be me, though, considering GW's current "Here's how to paint [x]" sections just haven't been up to par with old ones (IMO), and they could certainly stuff enough information in a handful of pages. Similarly, for fluff, I at once look forward to and dread GW fluff changes as at times they're interesting (Additions to 40K Ork Fluff, generally) and other times make me cringe (Farewell any plausibility of the Dark Elves starting off mislead, they were from Day 1 unrepentant power hungry demon summoning dicks now).

And invariably, if there is a price rise in the books we're either going to see the OnG book as a first (in which case every book thereafter can probably expect a similar or higher price), or it's going to lag behind a few books so that they can shift the prices all at once (or at least not have OnG the only one with a hiked price). The second possibility wouldn't surprise me either: Encourages people to buy the book now / soon, instead of waiting until later once they have the basics of the rules down to heart already, as by Summer / Next Spring they'll probably be notably more expensive.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:
@KK: I don't want to carry around super-sized books like the Apoc books. A4, and no larger.

Second, for those really large books, does nobody own a high-resolution digital camera?

Yeah but it's such a hassle to photograph every page and make sure the shot is lined up right and the page is flat and the lighting is good, really you'd have to build a lightbox specific for it and then spend ages cleaning it up in photoshop.

Or uh, so I would assume. Not that I'd ever considered it

Or, one could get a regular photographic enlarger-type device...

I'll have the new orc and goblin book in my hands about Wed/Thursday. They are shipping in this weeks 'Black Box'.

My sales rep confirmed that it was a hardcover. I didn't ask the price though. I'll post when it gets here.

I seriously doubt the 50 dollar price, my guess is 30 or 35. We'll see.

mikhaila wrote:I'll have the new orc and goblin book in my hands about Wed/Thursday. They are shipping in this weeks 'Black Box'.

My sales rep confirmed that it was a hardcover. I didn't ask the price though. I'll post when it gets here.

I seriously doubt the 50 dollar price, my guess is 30 or 35. We'll see.

Thanks! I really, seriously hope I'm wrong and we all have a good laugh about this.

Guess we are all to blame moaning about the crap quality and books falling to pieces.
That would never happen with a GW hardback.

They wouldn't really make them 4'x4'?

They will be 2x2' a la the battleboard to encourage you to buy the whole collection of codices/army books.

Re rumours
there is a good way to stop rumours/
Just give out the info on the internet instead of playing "What's in the Box"

.... Are there no depths to which GW won't sink?

I know hardcover is more expensive to make, but I think even if they bring out HC Codices/army books, they should still have soft cover.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Jst give out the info on the internet instead of playing "What's in the Box"

Everything you have read is a lie!

Remember that one? Good times...

Great.