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Did you just use the word realistic in relation to 40k?

Amaya wrote:Did you just use the word realistic in relation to 40k?

Nope. Not even once.

CadianXV wrote:Hmm. I'd like to think humanity would have more of a chance than that. For example, where were the airstrikes or tactical ICBMs?
Also, we are missing the specialist strike team attempting to take out the core AI, only for a single member to surrvive against all odds.
Still, good post mate!

They did all that first. The machines don't care about radiation, so after surviving the blast went back to building their city. They produced better products with vastly higher efficiency and crashed the world's economy. While their is a central AI, each machine is still autonomous.

I loved this video. It was my favorite part of the Animatrix. It makes me wonder: Were there ever any rules for the Iron Men, or even any specific information about the war between them and humanity?

DarkHound wrote:

CadianXV wrote:Hmm. I'd like to think humanity would have more of a chance than that. For example, where were the airstrikes or tactical ICBMs?
Also, we are missing the specialist strike team attempting to take out the core AI, only for a single member to surrvive against all odds.
Still, good post mate!

They did all that first. The machines don't care about radiation, so after surviving the blast went back to building their city. They produced better products with vastly higher efficiency and crashed the world's economy. While their is a central AI, each machine is still autonomous.

Thats a typical shabby AI trick...

CadianXV wrote:Hmm. I'd like to think humanity would have more of a chance than that. For example, where were the airstrikes or tactical ICBMs?
Also, we are missing the specialist strike team attempting to take out the core AI, only for a single member to surrvive against all odds.
Still, good post mate!

I was thinking the same thing.

EMP is supposed to put the whipsmack down on those robots. How about an EMP accompanied by a couple megatons worth of atomic flame?

Anyway:

That video reminded me a lot of Necrons. Everything from the Monoliths to the Tomb Spyders! I am also going to watch that again soon, it's been way too long.

As a Necron player that video warmed the cockles of my heart. Seeing sheer terror in the faces of men before the onslaught of silent machines really helps remind one why you play said army.

IG dont stand a chance against necrons...i wonder if it was the imperium against the robot army of the matrix who would have won?

^ The Dark Age of Technology had something that was probably almost identical to this (humanity's AI creations turning on them) but in the end humanityu won out instead.

The Hammer wrote:IG dont stand a chance against necrons...i wonder if it was the imperium against the robot army of the matrix who would have won?

Imperium. Two words: 'Orbital Bombardment'.

NWansbutter wrote:

biccat wrote:

ChrisWWII wrote:While we're on it...

Man, that movie totally ripped off 40k. I'm surprised they didn't throw in some Space Marine looking guys in powered armor. Maybe some skinny co-belligerents to represent the Eldar.

GW should sue.

Actually, if they'd stayed true to the novel rather than FUBARing it, they would have had exactly that. In the novel Starship Troopers (written in the 1940s, way better than the film) the "Starship Troopers" (or mobile infantry) were not hordes of grunts with machine guns, but super-elite troops who wore powered armour that can withstand anything short of a tank round, allowed them to jump up on top of sky-scrapers and the like, who were deployed via individual drop caspules, and who carried Y-racks with tactical nukes on their backs. They usually deploy in platoon-size strength.

If you want the definitive novel on power armor, you have to read Armor by John Steakley. Neither Robert Heinlein (Starship Troopers) or anything produced by the Black Library can touch it. The main character, Felix, is the absolute embodiment of what a space marine ought to be.

I thought I was the only person who had read Armor.

Great book!

TBH that made my skin crawl with the human experimentation bit, but I guess that is what the necrons would do to us would be much worse. Starship troopers is like one of my favorite movies, because it is very like 40k.

Umm that honestly didn't remind me of warhammer 40k in any way ._.

random looking robots shooting random weapons. doesn't remind me of necrons
humans looking like crazy idiots. doesn't remind me of the highly trained IG


I honestly didn't feel it

It's been too long to remember if they mention this, but, when a nuke goes off there actually is an emp. Anyway, I think against an actual invasion by the necron a lot of imperial worlds would go that way, until they got reinforments at least.

biccat wrote:

ChrisWWII wrote:While we're on it...

Man, that movie totally ripped off 40k. I'm surprised they didn't throw in some Space Marine looking guys in powered armor. Maybe some skinny co-belligerents to represent the Eldar.

GW should sue.

Today you have made me the saddest man alive.

While I cannot be certain, I'm fairly sure that GW got a lot of reference material for the space marines and maybe even nids from the original, and fantastic, book Starship troopers by Robert Heinlein. Also, they should throw in a skinny co-belligerents to represent... the skinnys.

Edit. I can't tell if you're trolling since you did throw in a couple definitive concepts that were in the book (the powered armour and the skinnys)

GamzaTheChaos wrote:Umm that honestly didn't remind me of warhammer 40k in any way ._.

random looking robots shooting random weapons. doesn't remind me of necrons
humans looking like crazy idiots. doesn't remind me of the highly trained IG


I honestly didn't feel it

you didn't see those monoliths?

Also, the humans are more like conscripts then actual Guardsmen

'Imperium. Two words: 'Orbital Bombardment'. '

Necrons. Three words 'We'll be back' and 2 more 'Ressurection Orbs '

It's also fairly safe to bet that Necrons and their ilk are EMP shielded.

Didn't the original pre-codex Necrons shut down machinery in a radius around them? I think someone mentioned it on here once.

Apparently in some fluff Necrons distort transmissions and machinery within a radius of them. Maybe a few BL books or something.

Ascalam wrote:
Necrons. Three words 'We'll be back' and 2 more 'Ressurection Orbs '

It's also fairly safe to bet that Necrons and their ilk are EMP shielded.

But we were talking about the Matrix Machine army, not the 'Crons.

ChrisWWII wrote:

Ascalam wrote:
Necrons. Three words 'We'll be back' and 2 more 'Ressurection Orbs '

It's also fairly safe to bet that Necrons and their ilk are EMP shielded.

But we were talking about the Matrix Machine army, not the 'Crons.

If the GW IP handlers get a look at it then beware as, to them, everything humanoid mechanic looks like a Necron.

I don't think you get We'll Be Back if the Necron is a pile of slag...

With a res orb around, all things are possible!

Yup In fact it specifically mentions a slagged necron (melted puddle of metal and scrap) reforming in one of the fluff stories in the codex, as a Lord walks past it...

Res Orbs are on the awesome side of tech They make Vindicators cry

clively wrote:
If you want the definitive novel on power armor, you have to read Armor by John Steakley. Neither Robert Heinlein (Starship Troopers) or anything produced by the Black Library can touch it. The main character, Felix, is the absolute embodiment of what a space marine ought to be.

I'm a big fan of Armor by Steakley. I'm not sure Felix himself quite fits the same general feeling that GW is trying to put forward with the space marines. Kent is a bit closer methinks, and the general troops definitely. Now, I will say that having read Armor, and come across combat armor in other stories, comics, and games, I do find the Space Marines a bit off-putting. The physical look I just don't find appealing, it doesnt scream power armor to me so much. Maybe someone trying to come up with plate mail they could vacuum seal, but not really power armor. The other thing of course is that power armor with built in strength enhancement wouldn't require that you have bioengineered superhumans to take advantage of it, that's sort of the point. Maybe a bit more resilient for getting tossed around, but such enhacements are also something that's generally included in the armor as well. To that point, Steakley and Heinlein had it right, where GW fails. The suits are there for anyone to be able to use, to become stronger, tougher, more capable to operate in multiple rolls, move and react quickly, more devestating, and more survivable. It just takes training.

Space marine fluff with the power armor is the general equivalent of stuffing Thor in Iron Mans armor. The only thing he really gains from it is the ability to check his email.

This has solved all mental scarring caused by the Necrons to me at any point in time. :3

Hee hee, that's funny, but it would have been better if he was actually doing the chicken dance...

I love how your avatar dances along with it. Sisters and Necrons dancing together, 40k will never be the same.

lol
Awesome cron

'Tis actually Caramell Marine. She is flamebait in its purest form: a female chibi-Marine dancing to caramelldansen, and she is far from the most heretical thing to come out of /tg.