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Cannibal wrote:It's just another way to have a unique model. Since GW does very few female models having some women make the army unique. For example: Not counting Rogue Trader, Imperial guard has 2 female models in the Last Chancers, 1 female catachan, and 1 female commisar, and thats it. The modern military has many women serving. In fact, the US military is very close to allowing women to serve in direct combat roles. Plus, women are in the IG fluff-wise even. In fact, I seem to recall an IG regiment of all women from the current codex. As for space smurfs, it's really just a matter of having unique models since marines tend to be so uniform within their own chapter. If GW where to retcon women back into the Astartes people would likely lose their fascination with female marines. Nobody makes a stink about how 1 in 4 eldar warriors are girls, because they have models. It's the same reason people make pre-heresy armies. It's a challenge to make and it really sets your marine army apart in an environment choked with marines. There may only be 1 Space Marine for every planet in the Imperium, but somehow they manage to have 100 Marines on any given planet at any given time.

Also some guys are just horn dogs.

Women do serve in direct combat roles.

Souce: Active duty US military.

sorry, I meant: Easy, boobs


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you know I find it odd why people ask this question. Obvious answer is obvious. You can be discrete about it as you want, but the simple fact is most men LOVE boobs.

PresidentOfAsia wrote:I noticed that many guys apparently want the Female version of everything, even regular space marines and even if it contradicts the fluff;

how come?

Daemon Primarches getting their ass handed to them by a Grey Knight says "Hi"

Ordo Mammaria -

All troops are rated -

A - B cup: Novitiates

C- D cup: Sororitas

E+ cup : Sistas - 2+ on invulnerable save in HTH due to the opponent being gravitationally distracted.

Armor: The scantness of armor causes the opponent to be highly distracted. So should a mammarian, wear AC 6 armor she would get a 2++ save due to the distractions caused in HTH. A mammarian loses 2 to this HTH distraction for every +1 to its armor save thus when wearing carapace armor, AC4 it would result in only a 6++ distractionary save. (Modified if worn by a sista.)

Bad makeup - 5 pt - IF the unit of mammarians wears bad make up, all units must make a leadership test or lose 2 I and 2 WS out of the sheer horror of seeing them or the comical nature. Note - being fearless is no protection!!!.

Hang on

if WYSIWYG, how is it that when I see bewbs I never get any?

To be honest after my girlfriend putting my devilfish tank I spent a month painting in the bathroom thinking it was a bath toy, I dont think they deserve there own models!

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Hang on

if WYSIWYG, how is it that when I see bewbs I never get any?

That's bad and you should feel awesome for it

One thing I noticed among some people is that any chaos or heretic females(ex: chaos sisters of battle) are associated with Slaneesh

Also female IG makes sense but female Space Marines not in sisters of battle don't

thats pretty much saying that the female got the male gene seed and therefore she is now a transvestite or something along those lines

Cottonjaw wrote:

Cannibal wrote:It's just another way to have a unique model. Since GW does very few female models having some women make the army unique. For example: Not counting Rogue Trader, Imperial guard has 2 female models in the Last Chancers, 1 female catachan, and 1 female commisar, and thats it. The modern military has many women serving. In fact, the US military is very close to allowing women to serve in direct combat roles. Plus, women are in the IG fluff-wise even. In fact, I seem to recall an IG regiment of all women from the current codex. As for space smurfs, it's really just a matter of having unique models since marines tend to be so uniform within their own chapter. If GW where to retcon women back into the Astartes people would likely lose their fascination with female marines. Nobody makes a stink about how 1 in 4 eldar warriors are girls, because they have models. It's the same reason people make pre-heresy armies. It's a challenge to make and it really sets your marine army apart in an environment choked with marines. There may only be 1 Space Marine for every planet in the Imperium, but somehow they manage to have 100 Marines on any given planet at any given time.

Also some guys are just horn dogs.

Women do serve in direct combat roles.

Souce: Active duty US military.

Then the US is even closer than I thought
Women are still not permitted in direct combat jobs, such as infantry, armor, and artillery. That is what is meant as "direct combat" They can, and do serve in indirect combat roles however such as logistical support, mechanics, medics, and MPs. All of these serve close to the action and in a war without front lines they do get embroiled in the fighting. In fact just recently a woman serving with an MP unit won a medal for valour by assaulting an insurgent position after an ambush.

Slarg232 wrote:

PresidentOfAsia wrote:I noticed that many guys apparently want the Female version of everything, even regular space marines and even if it contradicts the fluff;

how come?

Daemon Primarches getting their ass handed to them by a Grey Knight says "Hi"

2nd Battle of Armageddon says "Sup".

The daemon part of that makes it relatively easy for Grey Knights to hand them their asses.

Because I love cultist-chan....

Go to your FLGS and look around. That should be enough to answer your question.

AvatarForm wrote:For some reason everytime I hear about Cocaine, I think of the movie Role Models.

I always, without fail, think of this guy.



Keh-keh-keh-yeah, baby!

I have thought about this for awhile, and my answer is, if you are going to be staring at a tiny plastic butt all day, it might as well be a pretty, good looking, tiny plastic butt.

That and everyone secretly worships Slaanesh. ;D

Seriously though, I'd feel alot more confortable if I didnt have to paint toned abs all the time. And especialyl not man-butts on the Bloodletters.

Umm... because of boobs? Personally, painting cleavage and then having the body attached to that cleavage kill aliens sounds like a dream come true.

Because it's an easy way to get my girlfriend into the hobby.

"Hey hon, you know the game I love playing? Yeah, well...I made one and painted it like you. What army are they? Well, lemme tell you about the Imperial Guard!"

Or, hell, Slaanesh.

Masticatordeelux... Ha ha ha brilliant!

Kanluwen wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:

PresidentOfAsia wrote:I noticed that many guys apparently want the Female version of everything, even regular space marines and even if it contradicts the fluff;

how come?

Daemon Primarches getting their ass handed to them by a Grey Knight says "Hi"

2nd Battle of Armageddon says "Sup".

The daemon part of that makes it relatively easy for Grey Knights to hand them their asses.

1st Battle, but the point still stands.

Didnt like 100 GK terminators die just to banish Angron back to the warp for a few thousand years? It's not as easy as Slarg made it seem. But yes, GKs were made to combat Daemons, so it's kinda expected that they were gonna beat a Daemon.

However, SoBs are basically female SMs (although here's a great point for how GW is bias against woman and all, but I wont get into that). Failing that, blame it on slaanesh. There was even a pic of a Noise Marine with boobs in the 3.5 Dex, right at the beginning of the book of Slaanesh. Granted it's not something you would EVER want as a woman (and the boob is rather weird), but still, plausable at least.

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:Didnt like 100 GK terminators die just to banish Angron back to the warp for a few thousand years? It's not as easy as Slarg made it seem. But yes, GKs were made to combat Daemons, so it's kinda expected that they were gonna beat a Daemon.

100 Grey Knights died "just to banish Angron back to the Warp for a few thousand years"...but in the process they actually cut through Angron's bodyguard of Bloodthirsters, Bloodletters, and Daemon Princes.

Also, Walrus thanks for the correction. I always forget it's the First Battle, not Second. Blargh!

However, SoBs are basically female SMs (although here's a great point for how GW is bias against woman and all, but I wont get into that). Failing that, blame it on slaanesh. There was even a pic of a Noise Marine with boobs in the 3.5 Dex, right at the beginning of the book of Slaanesh. Granted it's not something you would EVER want as a woman (and the boob is rather weird), but still, plausable at least.

Ehhh. With Chaos Marines there's a chance for female Marines, since they're not all necessarily created via the Gene-Seed and some are basically creations of sorcery amalgated with ritual magic.

Otherwise, definitely. SoB are female SMs, just without the modifications.

i thought the standard was for women to have modifications anyway? i was under the impression 90% of popular females in the media (tv,movie,news,etc) had at least one modification? this probally only reinforces the negitive gender sterotypes the average young girl deals with growing up... but still.

as for the lack of female models... i think its simply because on most races they either A dont have females (orks, nids, necrons) or modeling them would be difficult. (SM, tau IG) plus, with the SM, the whole concept underlying them is a monastic order. traditonally they dont accept females, or if they do its a straight female order, like the SOB. not to mention a female in space marine powe rarmor would be nigh unidentifiable as one. for races like the eldar/de, they are already thin and agile models, with the male models somehwhat effeminate already, so its easy enough to sculpt the full female version.

finally look at the way the sprues are built. for most of the races it would require a total rework of the sprue, and the way GW does business its unlikley they will change a sprues design simply so the sex starved customers can look and touch plastic boobs.

as a final footnote...if you REALLY need to see boobs... check out these wonderful inventions called the "internet" and "google". nuff said.

perhaps its their inner-egalitarian voice speaking to them or the feminists are just rampaging on the threads! I do think its a shame that GW hasnt paid much attention to anything except ripped anglo white guys. There are women in the DE and Eldar ranks, but just no room in the Marines (especially since the geneseed comes from one place). Im glad they wrote into the fluff that there are to be countless chapters of space marines that basically are all whtie (with the exception of sally's who are only black b/c of radiation). Personally, Ive always wondered myself where all the black dudes have gone in the future? When I start my IG army, you can bet they will be well represented! Women space marines just doesnt make sense and if you want to collect them then go for the SOB. Trying to put boobs and a women head on a marine body just doesnt work, the shape of the armor must be totally altered.

Element: I think only the certain ones stuck around when they found out that they were going to be "initiated" into an all boy club by the "insertion" of the "holy geneseed" which, of course, has been passed down from the primarch. Oh, and you have to swallow it all- don't spill a drop!

More female models = win. Female space marines are no less fluffy than nice space marines, Space Wolves riding space wolves or Blood Angels chilling with their Necron homies. It's all good!

The prospect of a Pretty Marine army made up of "traps" both intrigues and scares me.

While I do want some female models, I'd just be happy with some head's for IG. A girl in body armor and fatigues looks identical to a boy in body armor and fatigues from a distance. What happens when uniforms and armor are mass produced. One size fits none, and they normally go off the male measurements. Though I will hand it to the US military, with all the new uniforms we got, they finally started making uniforms cut to accommodate females. I know a couple of the girls I work with were happy with it, but I digress. I just want new heads in general, some variety would be great. When everyone looks the same, only your height and face stands you apart. I could care less to have female cadian torsos, if they made that slight change to say "look here, it be a girl" nifty, but I would use the normal ones just the same. Now with Catachans I could see the need, but once again, I'd be happy with just the heads.

Just need to break up the monotony for guard armies, identical items tying everyone together is cool, but rather not run a clone army of dudes in helmets.

Though female SM would confuse the hell out of me fluff wise, as for the Slaanesh ones, I suppose, as doesn't the fluff support them being androgynous, but on a left and right side of the body? So their mutation is the warping of their body to look really odd.

theres also that one daemon that continuously birthed live fully formed and battle ready chaos space marines. Pretty sure if they can do that chaos has no problamo making female space marines.

Monster Rain wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:For some reason everytime I hear about Cocaine, I think of the movie Role Models.

I always, without fail, think of this guy.



Keh-keh-keh-yeah, baby!

+1 to this. Dr. Rockso is the best supporting character (?) EVAR.

As for the thread, I would like female models simply because the modeling chance to make them, well, awesome characters. Instead of guys having all the top roles, it's cool to see a female lead the way from time to time. I know we have the sisters of battle, but that's just a nameless mob of women with bolters, hardly what I'm looking for.

I've always been a big fan of women described as being epically strong, so a female version of straken or marbo would be right up my alley (without replacing straken and marbo of course).

Element206 wrote:Im glad they wrote into the fluff that there are to be countless chapters of space marines that basically are all whtie (with the exception of sally's who are only black b/c of radiation). Personally, Ive always wondered myself where all the black dudes have gone in the future? When I start my IG army, you can bet they will be well represented!

If I've heard correctly, Space Marines were originally described as having been bleached white by the geneseed by default, but temporarily darkening when exposed to UV radiation (basically extreme, instant tanning), as a way of making them more alien and engineered. So, regardless of their appearance prior to joining, they'd end up an unnerving pasty shade while indoors, and turn bright orange the second they stepped outside.

Sir Pseudonymous wrote:

Element206 wrote:Im glad they wrote into the fluff that there are to be countless chapters of space marines that basically are all whtie (with the exception of sally's who are only black b/c of radiation). Personally, Ive always wondered myself where all the black dudes have gone in the future? When I start my IG army, you can bet they will be well represented!

If I've heard correctly, Space Marines were originally described as having been bleached white by the geneseed by default, but temporarily darkening when exposed to UV radiation (basically extreme, instant tanning), as a way of making them more alien and engineered. So, regardless of their appearance prior to joining, they'd end up an unnerving pasty shade while indoors, and turn bright orange the second they stepped outside.

That is the first time ive ever heard that and comes as news to me. What a great way for GW to side-step the whole race thing...."Lets just make then all turn pasty white once they inherit the primarchs genes."