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Its not just a moratorium on stopping sales to southern hemisphere, but possibly a moratorium on selling out-of-zone if I read my sources right(and it might be now, it might be in a year, either way, it's forseeable. The moral is GW wants to rip its customers off, just compare the USD and CAD prices and comprehend what a 19% price increase means for your finances). In case you haven't noticed, Canada has one of the highest prices, barring austrialia, I'm amazed GW stores dont get burnt down and sacked over there. Most Southern as well as Canadian 40K players on here buy from discount retailers in the states to save on costs. Oveerall, people will likely keep buying and playing, but kitbashing and conversion becomes a thing for the opulently rich.

And my numbers saw some items go up by 30%, but an average of 19% across the board.

Let's add to that that GW employees generally tend to be donkey-caves for two reasons: 1.) theyre GW fanboys, 2.) It's unconscionable to have an understanding sales-person, because they are liable to give discounts, which is not a GW policy. In fact, GW has never dropped its prices to my recollection.

Still, any one of you braggarts with an all metal army are the ones that win on this one: its the one thing that keeps its value better than the rest, so long as treated well.

Cryonicleech wrote:

Laughing Man wrote:

Cryonicleech wrote:No one grumbled when PP made the change to resin.

That would be because they didn't. 5 new models in hybrid resin/metal kits =/= "making the change to resin."

Yeah... the new resin Trenchers and Gun Mages to replace the metal ones seems pretty indicative of their direction... as well as all the new Resin 'jacks

The new Trenchers and Gun Mages are metal.

The only resin in the line are the large portions of the Battle Engines.

malfred wrote:

Cryonicleech wrote:

Laughing Man wrote:

Cryonicleech wrote:No one grumbled when PP made the change to resin.

That would be because they didn't. 5 new models in hybrid resin/metal kits =/= "making the change to resin."

Yeah... the new resin Trenchers and Gun Mages to replace the metal ones seems pretty indicative of their direction... as well as all the new Resin 'jacks

The new Trenchers and Gun Mages are metal.

The only resin in the line are the large portions of the Battle Engines.

Ahh, nuts.

Good to know someone's in the loop. Apparently the people saying it was plastic were wrong then.

$5-$10 price rise on a couple sets? Way more than a couple and for many sets there's a 20-25% increase just this one time after similarly large increases the past couple years.

I usually side with the "it's not that bad" crowd, but not this year. Even I'm having second thoughts about what I'll be buying going forward.

Have you seen this thing?
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?pli=1&key=tIytonRUpm6fRkxpIjqcDzQ#gid=0

Cryonicleech wrote:

malfred wrote:

Cryonicleech wrote:

Laughing Man wrote:

Cryonicleech wrote:No one grumbled when PP made the change to resin.

That would be because they didn't. 5 new models in hybrid resin/metal kits =/= "making the change to resin."

Yeah... the new resin Trenchers and Gun Mages to replace the metal ones seems pretty indicative of their direction... as well as all the new Resin 'jacks

The new Trenchers and Gun Mages are metal.

The only resin in the line are the large portions of the Battle Engines.

Ahh, nuts.

Good to know someone's in the loop. Apparently the people saying it was plastic were wrong then.

The plastic stuff so far is the Bastions and Cinerators and Warspears and some others.

It's still not resin, though some describe the plastic as different from GW plastic.

Being one cheap tight assed son of a bitch I'm not to hot for them due to price increases across the board with lower production costs. Simple as that; greed got hold of them, they start screwing over the customer to increase the bottom line and cutting information to consumers. But Australia gets the shaft on loads of things; hiking prices more for them is just plain cruel.

I love 40k and i have no intention of stopping my collections; but Ebay and discount sites will be my shopping zones until GW gets its act together.

Varrick wrote: Being one cheap tight assed son of a bitch I'm not to hot for them due to price increases across the board with lower production costs. Simple as that; greed got hold of them, they start screwing over the customer to increase the bottom line and cutting information to consumers.

I love 40k and i have no intention of stopping my collections; but Ebay and discount sites will be my shopping zones until GW gets its act together.

Far as i know no one busted a piston over PP resin switch; because they did not hike prices across the board.

There is no PP resin switch.

malfred wrote:

Varrick wrote: Being one cheap tight assed son of a bitch I'm not to hot for them due to price increases across the board with lower production costs. Simple as that; greed got hold of them, they start screwing over the customer to increase the bottom line and cutting information to consumers.

I love 40k and i have no intention of stopping my collections; but Ebay and discount sites will be my shopping zones until GW gets its act together.

Far as i know no one busted a piston over PP resin switch; because they did not hike prices across the board.

There is no PP resin switch.

Then i missed something on the first page.

Yeah, my bad.

The proper thing to do here is blame all my faulty sources! But yeah, apparently my info is old and incorrect.

Is it not resinin the newer stuff? All the battle box reviews seem to have reached the conclusion that there's some form of resin in there, or plasticy-resin or whatever.

Varrick wrote:
I love 40k and i have no intention of stopping my collections; but Ebay and discount sites will be my shopping zones until GW gets its act together.

Lol that'll show 'em! (Hint: they're still getting your money)

Cryonicleech wrote:Yeah, my bad.

The proper thing to do here is blame all my faulty sources! But yeah, apparently my info is old and incorrect.

Is it not resinin the newer stuff? All the battle box reviews seem to have reached the conclusion that there's some form of resin in there, or plasticy-resin or whatever.

Again, the large pieces on the new Battle Engines use resin.

They haven't switched any metals to resin.

Models that are plastic are a different plastic, but they are plastic (bendable)
and not resin.

I don't think he's boycotting, I think he's just finding a cheaper solution.

Ahh, thanks for clearing that up Malfred. I really need to keep up with my PP info.

evilsponge wrote:

Varrick wrote:
I love 40k and i have no intention of stopping my collections; but Ebay and discount sites will be my shopping zones until GW gets its act together.

Lol that'll show 'em! (Hint: they're still getting you money)

Hey discount sites they don't get ALL they would have gotten and i have no issue with buying used minis, removing the paint(the proper way) and doing them right.

Retailers buy product at a wholesale and then you buy it at retail. Discount or no games workshop still gets their cut.

Cryonicleech wrote:I don't think he's boycotting, I think he's just finding a cheaper solution.

Ahh, thanks for clearing that up Malfred. I really need to keep up with my PP info.

I edited your page 1 post.

Good good, just to keep things clear.

Buying from discount might see GW make money, but you can boycott buying at GW prices. Sure, GW gets the money, but I get 20% or so off.

Cryonicleech wrote:Good good, just to keep things clear.

Buying from discount might see GW make money, but you can boycott buying at GW prices. Sure, GW gets the money, but I get 20% or so off.

Exactly; and even then buying 4 battleforces with of troopers for 100 bucks on Ebay, buying a few cans of easy off oven cleaner, and scrubbing like a boss is still a better way to go than buying GW's raised prices.

Elector wrote:I'm honestly curious, what has GW done recently to warrant so much anger from the community?

Their price rise of 5 to 10 bucks for a couple of sets? The embargo against out-of-Europe shipping for indie stockists? Something else that I missed?

If this is in some way flame-baiting, I'm sorry in advance, but I really don't get all the anger and hatred towards GW, and I was hoping somebody would explain so that I can decide whether it's worth continuing to play before I buy more plastic/resin gold.

Do you mean that you are unaware of the causes, which have been extensively discussed?

You should read the threads. I don't think they are hard to understand.

As an Aussie, **** you GW.

The Australian dollar is at a massive high, and I was just about to place a big order to Wayland Games. Now I'll never afford an IG army!

It's already $41 for ten ****ing Guardsmen... what the hell will it be after the hike? Do GW even take the exchange rate into consideration?!

Gah!

[Mod edit for language. Please don't evade the swear filter.]

I_am_a_Spoon wrote:As an Aussie, **** you GW.

The Australian dollar is at a massive high, and I was just about to place a big order to Wayland Games. Now I'll never afford an IG army!

It's already $41 for ten ****ing Guardsmen... what the hell will it be after the hike? Do GW even take the exchange rate into consideration?!

Gah!

Psst... if you can get away with non-GW models, I'd suggest Wargames Factory Shock Troops - you can pick up a bundle deal, 127 models for $118 USD!

Cryonicleech wrote:

Laughing Man wrote:

Cryonicleech wrote:No one grumbled when PP made the change to resin.

That would be because they didn't. 5 new models in hybrid resin/metal kits =/= "making the change to resin."

Yeah... the new resin Trenchers and Gun Mages to replace the metal ones seems pretty indicative of their direction... as well as all the new Resin 'jacks

...The new Trenchers and Gun Mages are metal...

DAMN! Teach me to read the thread first...

thehook? if you plan to go to tournaments, youwont get away with non GW models.

Why not buy the IG battlebox and sell the command and sentinel frames off? I magine it might almost be cheaper if you do it right.

Once upon a time, in the UK anyway, GW did have a sale.....it was during the switch from lead based to 'white metal'.
I popped into my local GW and lo and behold, there were huge see thru bags piled high with mini's.
I walked out with a 2000pt CSM army, all metal and costing less than £60......but that was a loooong time ago.
I guess they won't be doing the same when they switch from plastic to fine cast. Would be nice thou......

poda_t wrote:thehook? if you plan to go to tournaments, youwont get away with non GW models.

Note: Since GW stopped providing ANYTHING in the way of tournament support and many of the tourneys source their product from other stores, it's no longer a consideration.
It was really only ever a "do this or we don't supply prize support" gambit. Now this crutch has been kicked away from them, they don't like it.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Been under a rock the past week and a half?

Was switching to a cheaper material to save on production costs yet raising the prices not enough for you?
Was banning sales to the southern hemisphere except by southern hemisphere retailers not a big enough thing to notice?
Was an up-to 25% price rise on books and plastic kits something that skipped by?
Was a doubling-down on secrecy and preview information something you didn't notice?
Was reorganising WD subscriptions to arrive a week after they come out in stores to vague?

The top one of these alone is enough to make many people quit

31rls31 wrote:ill still buy,just not as offten :(

prices have gone up on everything not just gw,just go to your local genreal store,food, gas,travel.......oh man i sound old manish now :(

all in all,gw threw three strikes in one week,and thats alot of anger in one week!!

Pretty much the same across a good chunk of the world. It's all the little other things that get to you. Pay not going up for TWO years now, everything else having gone up. I think what sums it up best is the following. I used to buy these really cheap (probably nasty) store's own chocolate swiss rolls. I used to pay like, 10p for them. They now cost 25p. Most of my weekly shop has gone up by about 10, 15p per item. The last thing I needed was for my hobby to spike the price of everything else!

lunarman wrote:The top one of these alone is enough to make many people quit

What? Being under a rock? That doesn't make any se... oooooooh! The 'finecast' thing. Right. Gotcha.

Its they way they treat our Aussie and NZ cousins that really get my back up..... I wish it wasnt so, really I do. But you can't deny the price hikes are hurting everything. Petrol, food, mortgage, Electricity, Water, Gas etc etc....
It's getting beyond a joke.....

Sorry that this is off topic, but how do you un-ignore people? I accidentally ignored Sarpedon in another thread and I'm getting sick of hitting "show this post" every time he comes up in a thread, haha.

Sorry that this is off topic, but how do you un-ignore people? I accidentally ignored Sarpedon in another thread and I'm getting sick of hitting "show this post" every time he comes up in a thread, haha.

LOL...that's probably the best thing you could have done. He doesn't half type sometimes

@sarpedons-right-hand: Ain't that right bruv?

Seriously though, I don't know.

OT the GW hate is around every time there is a price increase - I did some digging & found a petition started back in 2005 - signed by over 3000 people. This time though it's everything else this past week & the way they make their decisions & treat their customers. Bad PR alone is enough to anger people, but bad PR mixed with everything else is like being punched & abused by the crazy person you happen to love while they do all they can to mess with your head - many can't take it anymore & are walking away. Even I've changed my tune this past week & I've lost all respect for them (it was dwindling anyway) but Well's response & every other issue this past week has me off no end. They've lost my custom until they shape up - if they ever do - as they seem to be managed by the Chuckle Brother's evil, demented twins...

...GW have become the Sunset Beach of Fantasy Wargames, just with a larger budget...

Just found this over at BOLS. Basically it sums up how I feel about GW turning like a rabid-vampire...

http://nooooooooooooooo.com/