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Confrontation was the only miniature line where going plastic was a huge mistake, because their plastics were gak. The only one of the metals of theirs that I ever owned was the Ogre mercenary that was wearing the elephant head, but it was a joy to paint.

Hrmm, it says "entire back catalogue", but nothing specifically about metal vs plastics. Are they rereleasing both lines then? Thats one of their metal models it looks like, and I do remember seeing pics of it but don't remember where (Cry Havoc magazine probably), but it's mounted on a round base like those of the plastics.

Which leads me to the biggest question, what's happening with the game itself? A miniatures line is neat and all, but the game is what makes it. Here's hoping they go back to Confrontation3 skirmish rules, which remains one of my favorite games of all time. The plastic confrontation rules only had one thing going for em: armybooks. If we can get Con3 with armybooks instead of card packs then I'll the happiest man alive, even if I have to rebase all of my figs.

Now to find which box I shoved all my old wolfen that I never finished painting...

This is wonderful news. I look forward to building that Wolfen collection I always wanted.

NB/ Fantasy Flight Games bought the rights to AT-43 and the Confrontation plastics.

R.

Oh sure, NOW they re-release stuff...I scoured the earth for months to get my hands on the khor warriors 4 set pfff!

Still, it's awesome. I came into the minis hobby after they went belly up, it'd be nice to get some of those nice nice figs.

Well, I still haven't got enough Dirz so let's hope they bring those out soon.

Maybe they'll release AT43 in unpainted, resin versions, I'd love to get me some Therians too.

Rackham had some nice minis, but the entire range wasn't that great (personal opinion!!!!).

I think the game needs to be refounded first, without the game, the miniatures become almost pointless.

Great news ! Thank you !

Delephont wrote:I think the game needs to be refounded first, without the game, the miniatures become almost pointless.

I wouldn't be so sure. For all the people who collected the miniatures to paint, I've come across comparatively few who actually played the game. I suspect that's a large part of why Rackham ran into so much trouble when they switched to pre-paints... if the majority of their market was painters rather than people actually interested in their game, switching to pre-painted plastics was never going to work.

insaniak wrote:

Delephont wrote:I think the game needs to be refounded first, without the game, the miniatures become almost pointless.

I wouldn't be so sure. For all the people who collected the miniatures to paint, I've come across comparatively few who actually played the game. I suspect that's a large part of why Rackham ran into so much trouble when they switched to pre-paints... if the majority of their market was painters rather than people actually interested in their game, switching to pre-painted plastics was never going to work.

I'm almost sure I have a copy of the micro-rulebook that came with the miniatures. Bring along a magnifier and it's on!

Sorry, it´s Confrontation only and also no rules!

It´s just the reviving of the old Confrontation mini line.

I suspect that's a large part of why Rackham ran into so much trouble when they switched to pre-paints...

I totally agree.

hmm...

The plan currently is to produce limited runs, these incredibly hot miniatures will be sure to sell out fast!

Still going to be expensive collectors models then?

This may be the way to go for this range anyway....since no one actually played the game.

For a while it actually did replace GW for me I liked the more interactive nature of the mechanics and the fact you didn't spend ages waiting for your opponents turn. This has mae my day/week/year! Don't think its the pre-paints as it's the ex figure painter releasing the range....

Duncan_Idaho wrote:Sorry, it´s Confrontation only and also no rules!

It´s just the reviving of the old Confrontation mini line.

Ah... much less interested now.

Mr. Burning wrote:hmm...

The plan currently is to produce limited runs, these incredibly hot miniatures will be sure to sell out fast!

Still going to be expensive collectors models then?

This may be the way to go for this range anyway....since no one actually played the game.

There was a very active gaming group in Boston at the now defunct DANGER PLANET.

It was what got me into the miniatures in the first place!

precinctomega wrote:This is wonderful news. I look forward to building that Wolfen collection I always wanted.

NB/ Fantasy Flight Games bought the rights to AT-43 and the Confrontation plastics.

R.

Didn't realise that the sculpts were from Confrontation
Have eyed those up as some of the best werewolves should I decide to have a unit for gaming.

I think I just got into gaming after or around the time of the demise, so was not fully aware of the range of sculpts.
Just seen the news on BoW and they look like good models.

Not that I need more temptations!

Some of the miniatures will make awesome "counts as" Ogres, Trolls, etc.

And many others will fit in human, chaos, elf, etc. armies.

Or maybe not, because if this is a 'collectors/painters' only re-release, the prices might not be so attractive.

But I do wish the game was returning too.

Still, I'm sure I'll pick up some, just for old times sake!

Bring the minis I don't care about the rules anymore... Its good to have one of the best lines around and not hidden on forgotten stores or explored at ebay... These minis deserve a big and nice spot in the sun for all to enjoy some of the best fantasy miniatures ever done.

Depending on prices I can see myself making another faction for my collections...

warpcrafter wrote:Confrontation was the only miniature line where going plastic was a huge mistake, because their plastics were gak. The only one of the metals of theirs that I ever owned was the Ogre mercenary that was wearing the elephant head, but it was a joy to paint.

Sorry, not quite right. Their prepaints were crap but their first dive into plastic was nothing short of awesome considering when it was made. The Aberration Prime is still one of my all time favorite models. This is the conundrum that was rackham - how they went from awesome to gak so very quickly, a good lesson to those who want to start a mini company.

The plan currently is to produce limited runs

Can you add some more detail to this?

precinctomega wrote:This is wonderful news. I look forward to building that Wolfen collection I always wanted.

NB/ Fantasy Flight Games bought the rights to AT-43 and the Confrontation plastics.

R.

FFG probably is going to release the Red Block as Sino-Soviets and the Cogs for the Alien Vrill for DUST Tactics as that's what AT-43 was going to be anyways...

The minis will be in resin. The info is from a source that is involved in this endeavour.

I also hope that we will have a revival of the rules as well.

Nope, Cogs are not going to be Vrill and Red Block will not be 1:1 translated into Sinosoviets.

Platuan4th wrote:

Myrthe wrote:This is great news !!! Confrontation models were stunning and such a refreshing aesthetic (IMHO) that they reinvigorated my interest in the hobby.

But ...

I don't want to pee in anyone's cornflakes but didn't Rackham Entertainment, when they fully committed to pre-painted plastic, say they were destroying the spin-cast molds used to produce their metal models ?? I hope I'm remembering incorrectly but I seem to recall something like that on their own forums as they kicked-off a huge inventory sell-off of all their metal stock.

Jean Bey still had the masters used to make the molds.

And he's a pretty awesome guy since he - ya know - INVENTED the world of Aarklash.

Scottywan82 wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:
Jean Bey still had the masters used to make the molds.

And he's a pretty awesome guy since he - ya know - INVENTED the world of Aarklash.

EXCELLENT !! I'm glad to hear it !! So is Jean Bey involved in Confrontation again? Rackham Enterprises made a HUGE mistake when the ousted him in the first place. It wasn't the beginning of their problems, but it certainly sped up The End !! While his strengths may not have been for running the original Rackham since it grew so rapidly, his talent was certainly for creating the amazing imagery of Aarklash and the new owners squandered that.

I'm thrilled by this news as so many of you are !!

Duncan_Idaho wrote:Nope, Cogs are not going to be Vrill and Red Block will not be 1:1 translated into Sinosoviets.

Now that's good news. Here's hoping the Sinosoviets look more like those found in the source book.

Paolo already showed us how the Sinosoviets will look like in his comics and with hits kits and as far as I know he has no intetntions of straying from this path.

Bey is not involved in the reviving of the minis, at least not officially.

I am intrested in this alrigth, and that moddel would go great to my beastmen

fullheadofhair wrote:

warpcrafter wrote:Confrontation was the only miniature line where going plastic was a huge mistake, because their plastics were gak. The only one of the metals of theirs that I ever owned was the Ogre mercenary that was wearing the elephant head, but it was a joy to paint.

Sorry, not quite right. Their prepaints were crap but their first dive into plastic was nothing short of awesome considering when it was made. The Aberration Prime is still one of my all time favorite models. This is the conundrum that was rackham - how they went from awesome to gak so very quickly, a good lesson to those who want to start a mini company.

Those first plastics were a token effort. They probably spent a lot of money making them, decided it was too expensive and then went with the horrible chinese made crap.

Which is surprising considering how effortlessly other miniature companies have produced flawless plastic kits of the same quality as their metal figures! Just look at Mantic's plastic Orcs compared to the metals!

/sarcasm

If this is a line for miniature painting only, then fair enough....although , personally, if I was going to spend alot of money on a single (special edition) miniature, just for painting and display, I'd sooner spend on 54mm stuff, rather than dealing with the obvious compromises made on detail at 28mm scale....