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Chowderhead wrote:Because the Flamer is kinda hard to seem logical, the Thunder Hammer and Powerfist work the same, and the Plasma Cannon's splash damage attack also renders a missile launcher useless.

Oh good, so that means all they need to do is reskin the weapons and add in some different effects in expand the armory. Which isn't happening.

Necroshea wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:Because the Flamer is kinda hard to seem logical, the Thunder Hammer and Powerfist work the same, and the Plasma Cannon's splash damage attack also renders a missile launcher useless.

Oh good, so that means all they need to do is reskin the weapons and add in some different effects in expand the armory. Which isn't happening.

Because "reskinning the weapons and adding in some different effects" is not all that's needed to be done.

The Flamer has no equivalent within Space Marine, currently. The closest is the Meltagun--but it's nowhere near a good match.
The Thunder Hammer and Powerfist, whilst working the same also would allow your Assault Marine to permanently have his sidearm drawn and firing--unlike the Thunder Hammer. So there's animation and balance issues, potentially, going on.

The Plasma Cannon's splash damage attack is not the same as a missile launcher's attack. The effect is similar(i.e. a big boom), but they are not the same thing.

Kanluwen wrote:

Necroshea wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:Because the Flamer is kinda hard to seem logical, the Thunder Hammer and Powerfist work the same, and the Plasma Cannon's splash damage attack also renders a missile launcher useless.

Oh good, so that means all they need to do is reskin the weapons and add in some different effects in expand the armory. Which isn't happening.

Because "reskinning the weapons and adding in some different effects" is not all that's needed to be done.

The Flamer has no equivalent within Space Marine, currently. The closest is the Meltagun--but it's nowhere near a good match.
The Thunder Hammer and Powerfist, whilst working the same also would allow your Assault Marine to permanently have his sidearm drawn and firing--unlike the Thunder Hammer. So there's animation and balance issues, potentially, going on.

The Plasma Cannon's splash damage attack is not the same as a missile launcher's attack. The effect is similar(i.e. a big boom), but they are not the same thing.

Meh, all I'm saying is they don't seem to be adding much to the game. A single reskinned weapon would have made things enjoyable for me. Instead of killing orks (and chaos?) by myself like I did in the campaign, I'm now doing it with some other guys. That's about the extent of what I'm getting now. I'll reserve my final opinion of it until I play it, but so far I'm not looking forward to it.

Did you really expect them to be adding brand new weapons to the game every time a DLC comes out?

So far, we've got this DLC. Everything else from what I've heard/been told is purely cosmetic stuff.

Why? Because of game balance and programming necessity. Adding new guns takes more resources than creating new skins. New guns require new animations, new models, new everything.

New skins just require new skins.

Kanluwen wrote:And we'll likely have Sol, so that's at least two Assault Marines.

Since when do I focus on Assault Marine It's either Dev with HB or Tac with melta+something else.

Necroshea: Making smooth, attractive animations is much harder than making a new 3-d model for a weapon, which is much harder than simply reskinning...

Anyone know the exact time of release? Cause it's the 25th here and nothing yet.

Soladrin wrote:Anyone know the exact time of release? Cause it's the 25th here and nothing yet.

You've still got a while before it's available. They said 24 Hours left about 3 hours ago.

Soladrin wrote:Anyone know the exact time of release? Cause it's the 25th here and nothing yet.

US time, you stupid foreigner!

Le sigh, companies should just give it to us when it's the correct date... louzy smucks...

Platuan4th wrote:

Soladrin wrote:Anyone know the exact time of release? Cause it's the 25th here and nothing yet.

You've still got a while before it's available. They said 24 Hours left about 3 hours ago.

Ah, source for this?

Facebook.

http://www.facebook.com/spacemarine

No facebook account = can't view facebook.

I found it on twitter though.

http://twitter.com/#!/SpaceMarine

Soladrin wrote:Facebook.

http://www.facebook.com/spacemarine

Strange, never got it on mine...
Oh well, the closer the better!

I'll just wait until I get home from classes tomorrow, or I'm going to wind up waking up in the middle of the night to see if it's up yet....either one I'm going to be a happy camper in sometime in the next 24 hours, oh, and I might go and get my skyrim preorder fully paid off, that would make it an epic day of awesome proportions...

Going by the message yesterday, we're looking at around Noon CST, but my math may be off.

Yeah, noon to one pm CST.

That looks like its going to be a blast. So cant wait! HB For me baby!

Luckily I had the day off today...I know what i'm going to be doing! Bahaha!

My last class of the day ends roughly around the time Exterminatus should be released. I know how the rest of my day's being spent

UTTER BULLSPIT!

"‘Exterminatus’ is available on Playstation®3 and PC to download for free. The version for the Xbox 360®video game and entertainment system from Microsoft will go live soon."

You are goddamned right it's bullspit. I'm calling them out on it right now, via Twitter.

So, you have to pay for it on Xbox? l

......

GODDAMN YOU MICROSOFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MAN THE BATTLEMENTS, BATTON DOWN THE HATCHES AND SAIL FOR MICROSOFT HQ, WE LEAVE NO MAN ALIVE!!!!


Seriously though I paid 40 frikkin quid for a game on release day that wasnt finished, but I was cool with that, co-op was coming and for free no less. How come everyone has it but 360? because if this is something to do with the XBL's apparent policy of charging for any and all DLC they are going to pay... DEARLY

Toastedandy wrote:So, you have to pay for it on Xbox? l

No, it is not ON the Xbox yet.

Why we do not know. Most likely, it's because THQ is arranging a relationship with Sony.

With Steam being a factor now, it's worth noting that the PS3 has the Blood Ravens skin which was the Steam preorder bonus available to purchase.

So pretty much, it's most likely THQ playing favorites and trying to wean themselves some favor.

danp164 wrote: if this is something to do with the XBL's apparent policy of charging for any and all DLC they are going to pay... DEARLY

Someone will end up buying it, even if its only 1 person, then it would be worth it. But, are they charging for it? Or does it just have a later release date?

I'm gonna be heckling on facebook, THIS WON'T DO!

danp164 wrote:
Seriously though I paid 40 frikkin quid for a game on release day that wasnt finished, but I was cool with that, co-op was coming and for free no less. How come everyone has it but 360? because if this is something to do with the XBL's apparent policy of charging for any and all DLC they are going to pay... DEARLY

And hallo kneejerk reactionism.

Well, my Steam is now downloading some kind of update for Space Marine as we speak.

And jesus, calm down. Just because it's not instantly available on 360 doesn't mean they've intentionally snubbed you.

Hell, now you know how PC feels most of the time.

For example, Arkham City. It's out on consoles now. Go look up the PC release date. Consoles get the long end of the stick 99% of the time.

Cerebrium wrote:Well, my Steam is now downloading some kind of update for Space Marine as we speak.

And jesus, calm down. Just because it's not instantly available on 360 doesn't mean they've intentionally snubbed you.

Actually, it does. The original statement was that the content would be launching simultaneously on all platforms. That does not mean "it launches at 1:35PM for PS3 and Steam and then 4:45PM for 360" customers.

Hell, now you know how PC feels most of the time.

You mean PC which gets most of the content for free?

Yeah. What a drag you guys must have.