2012 Release Schedule according to DrBored

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**xttz**

I want to believe... mainly because two of my three armies are DA and Eldar.

It would also be nice to see some new Eldar sculpts at last. Pleeeeeeeease let there be decent jetbikes in the starter box.

**unmercifulconker**

Zweischneid wrote:Eldar may or may not be the army that girls buy most often, but just updating them will not get more girls "into the hobby".

If they seriously would want to push miniature-wargaming and their lines in particular among girls in significant ways, they'd likely have to change their marketing more than their product line. I somehow doubt this is a major concern for them on releasing 6th Edition (which doesn say it is no concern at all).

QFT
Sorry if this comes across as sexist to anyone but I seriously doubt Games Workshop are concerned with getting more girls to play. If they want to make money, they don't try to accomodate for the group which has the lowest number. Again, no mean to sound sexist, it would be nice for GW to try and pull more women into the hobby, but GW want to make money.

**Ledabot**

I love the look of this line up. I don't even mind that it doesn’t have Tau in it. Chaos does seem to have the most rumours at the moment though. It seems unlikely that it won’t be coming within 2 or 3 codexes.

I think that GW should make an effort to include female models into the game. It’s easy to do. Next time they buy a new cast or release a new unit, they could make one of the models female. Well, everything but space marines would work.

**Just Dave**

Actually, I can believe this.

**SkaerKrow**

Sounds very fabricated to me. While I would love to have a DA/Eldar starter box, I just don't think that it's in the cards. At least not based upon this "information."

**Redemption**

Kroothawk wrote:Takes more than an eager low post count poster saying "It's Eldar, believe me" to shake my believe in Hasting's prediction. Contradicts too many current rumours, contains too many contradictions. Sounds fabricated, either by the poster, the source, or the source feeding the source. Maybe the latter.

Aye, it's certainly a rumour mishmash currently:
- Harry originally states Eldar as in the Starter Set, however, backs out after Hastings mentions DA vs Chaos.
- Stickmonkey states the Dark Angels codex isn't due for a release until at least 2013.
- Harry and Hasting state Chaos is the first 6th edition codex, either just before or after the release of 6th edition.
- And now DrBored states DA vs Eldar and doesn't mention Chaos at all.

I currently put more stock in Hasting's version (even I would prefer Eldar vs DA myself), but I am very curious how it turns out. We at least can be pretty certain DA are coming in some form or another, whether it is a new codex and/or an inclusion in the starter set, due to hints from GW. E.g., the WD spines and the paint starter set.

**DarkStarSabre**

Breotan wrote:
drbored wrote:-A. Eldar is a girl-getter. It's the one army that attracts more girls to the game than any other.
I'm gonna call BS right here. Every girl I know who has 40k stuff (not a heck of a lot) has Sisters of Battle. None of them have Eldar. Two of them do have Dark Eldar Wyches though. Hmmm...

And every girl I know who plays tends to go straight for Tyranids.

Calling them cute.

**Zweischneid**

Redemption wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Takes more than an eager low post count poster saying "It's Eldar, believe me" to shake my believe in Hasting's prediction. Contradicts too many current rumours, contains too many contradictions. Sounds fabricated, either by the poster, the source, or the source feeding the source. Maybe the latter.

Aye, it's certainly a rumour mishmash currently:
- Harry originally states Eldar as in the Starter Set, however, backs out after Hastings mentions DA vs Chaos.
- Stickmonkey states the Dark Angels codex isn't due for a release until at least 2013.
- Harry and Hasting state Chaos is the first 6th edition codex, either just before or after the release of 6th edition.
- And now DrBored states DA vs Eldar and doesn't mention Chaos at all.

I currently put more stock in Hasting's version (even I would prefer Eldar vs DA myself), but I am very curious how it turns out. We at least can be pretty certain DA are coming in some form or another, whether it is a new codex and/or an inclusion in the starter set, due to hints from GW. E.g., the WD spines and the paint starter set.

Well, there's also the famous BoK riddle from March 2011, which seems to exclude Xenos (including, presumably, Eldar).

BoK wrote:
Ok the ”Bombshell” I really need to use better wording…

”By the end of the next Olympics we will treated to 6th ed Warhammer 40k”
Now that is something that people that follow GW trends have suspected for awhile. So really that is not that earth shattering. What makes 6thed potentially earth shattering is the version of AoBR we will get. For the first time ever neither Xenos, the Warriors of Roboute Guilliman, or the Sledgehammer of the Emperor will be chosen to fill the starter box.

What that means well all of us will have to wait to find out…

Admittedly, things might have changed since than, even if that had some substance.

**Stoffer**

Kroothawk wrote:Takes more than an eager low post count poster saying "It's Eldar, believe me" to shake my believe in Hasting's prediction. Contradicts too many current rumours, contains too many contradictions. Sounds fabricated, either by the poster, the source, or the source feeding the source. Maybe the latter.

Yeah agree. Also the girl comment is also a little too silly.

**Electro**

Well, a week tomorrow we will have our first glimps of who is right and who is wrong, unless there is a necron release.

It is a little odd that, realy, we know nothing solid about what is happening in less than two weeks. If nothing else you have to say well done to GW for manageing to keep it all so hush hush and keeping us going round and round.

**Chowderhead**

I'm with Krootykins on this one.

Hastings is very reliable, and with all the similar rumors going around, one upstart with all contradictory thoughts doesn't make sense.

**unmercifulconker**

Electro wrote:Well, a week tomorrow we will have our first glimps of who is right and who is wrong, unless there is a necron release.

It is a little odd that, realy, we know nothing solid about what is happening in less than two weeks. If nothing else you have to say well done to GW for manageing to keep it all so hush hush and keeping us going round and round.

The employees must get neuralized MIB style every time they leave the office.
"So honey how was your day"
"I...I don't know"

**Electro**

unmercifulconker wrote:
Electro wrote:Well, a week tomorrow we will have our first glimps of who is right and who is wrong, unless there is a necron release.

It is a little odd that, realy, we know nothing solid about what is happening in less than two weeks. If nothing else you have to say well done to GW for manageing to keep it all so hush hush and keeping us going round and round.

The employees must get neuralized MIB style every time they leave the office.
"So honey how was your day"
"I...I don't know"

Must remeber that next time I'm at Warhammer world "No dear, it's not the Bugmans. They mind zapped me"

**Mad4Minis**

Kharrak wrote:Much more interested in the starter set now (assuming this is accurate) - would love to see the unique eldar models that come with it.

Id love to see some new Eldar, but will hold any excitement until I see some. What I see as more likely than new stuff is the same old plastics and some finecast versions of the current metal minis.

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DarkStarSabre wrote:
Breotan wrote:
drbored wrote:-A. Eldar is a girl-getter. It's the one army that attracts more girls to the game than any other.
I'm gonna call BS right here. Every girl I know who has 40k stuff (not a heck of a lot) has Sisters of Battle. None of them have Eldar. Two of them do have Dark Eldar Wyches though. Hmmm...

And every girl I know who plays tends to go straight for Tyranids.

Calling them cute.

My wife likes Chaos Daemons...has 2 squads in progress...Bloodletters and Daemonettes.

**timetowaste85**

I don't play Dark Angels, and I'm looking to get rid of the Eldar stuff I have. If the previous rumors are wrong, and it's DA vs Eldar, this boxset gets a pass from me. As a Chaos vs DA box, I'd get it. Oh well, I passed the 8th edition fantasy box too. That said, I'm open-minded about rumors, but this one IS flying in the face of a proven rumormonger with a solid history.

Besides, two 'good' (okay, acceptably not evil) armies in the same starter box? No-good vs evil? Shenanigans!

**Shredsmore**

I hope this rumor is a bunch of balogna, cause I wanted a plastic chaos dread.

**Chimera_Calvin**

I too am with the 'shenanigans' crowd - for the starter box to have eldar there would have to be new eldar sculpts.

We have had consistent rumours regarding the 'Chaos' half of the starter box (dread, cultists, CSM squad plus character), far more than what may be in the Dark Angel half (at least we have a hint there from the new starter paint set) and no rumoured Eldar sculpts at all.

If there is to be any surprises at all it will be something like a 'fallen' sculpt as some kind of playable objective marker (akin to the downed pilot from Battle for Macragge) in the starter - but it will definately be DA vs CSM.

**Brother SRM**

It's an interesting rumor, but I think he's playing his hand a little early. If May is not Dark Angels as he predicts, then you can kiss that entire line of rumors goodbye. Even so, I put faith in Harry and Hastings' rumors more than some guy who just showed up out of the ether.

**Anpu-adom**

I'm a 40k player and I understand that this is the 25th anniversary year of 40k, but that doesn't leave any room for fantasy in 2012.

Something in my gut says, "Not bloodly likely." It could be the corned beef sandwich I had for breakfast though.

**Zweischneid**

Well, to be fair, 99% of the Chaos Rumours also sound like highly improbable wishlisting in blatant contradiction of previous Chaos-work, unless GW is planning to publish Warhammer 30K that is.

**Quintinus**

Zweischneid wrote:Well, to be fair, 99% of the Chaos Rumours also sound like highly improbable wishlisting in blatant contradiction of previous Chaos-work, unless GW is planning to publish Warhammer 30K that is.

Wow, bringing back Legions? No way, that's crazy talk. I don't remember virtually every Chaos codex having legions in them.

Cultists?
Nah, no Chaos codex has had those either.

You're totally right dude, thank you for letting me see the error of my ways

**Just Dave**

Just to reiterate, BoW slates May for the Necron's second wave, so June is a more likely date for a Codex release.

Anpu-adom wrote:I'm a 40k player and I understand that this is the 25th anniversary year of 40k, but that doesn't leave any room for fantasy in 2012.

Something in my gut says, "Not bloodly likely." It could be the corned beef sandwich I had for breakfast though.

What's the current releases been for this year? I know Fantasy has had at-least one army book (Empire), but I don't recall any Codices having been released this year?

**Zweischneid**

Just Dave wrote:

What's the current releases been for this year? I know Fantasy has had at-least one army book (Empire), but I don't recall any Codices having been released this year?

Well, the Nid/Space Wolves release was a "Codex-release-sized" release if you will. They put out a total of 4 new plastic boxed set and 4 new FC-units. Bigger than either the Grey Knight or the Blood Angel release during the similar time-slot in the years before (though obviously smaller than the "big" winter-releases), just no new "book".

**wyomingfox**

Redemption wrote:
- Harry originally states Eldar as in the Starter Set, however, backs out after Hastings mentions DA vs Chaos.

Huh? Please quote as I don't think Harry has ever said that.

As for Dr. Bored...I remember this quote from BOLS back in August: I highlighted some items of interest.

Dr. Bored wrote:As we get towards 6th edition, some things are rumored to be changing. White Dwarf is rumored to be going back to what they had before, with more battle reports and painting how-tos and less advertisements. Sisters of Battle is the poster child for the 'White Dwarf Codex' which may be getting more full-on Codices in the future depending on popularity. One such example would be for the Chaos Legions Codex, which would have a core, and then White Dwarf additions for other Legions as the months progress.

Oh by the way, Chaos Legions by March 1012 and 6th edition by October 2012, which will feature Eldar as the poster child. Heavy Xenos influence for 6th edition, including the long-awaited Tau update.

Here's a doozy. Fluff changes. (prepare for heavy summary) We're moving on from the 41st millenium into the 42nd. Yup. Here's the rumor: mankind's days are really waning. They're heading down the crapper fast and xenos, especially Necrons, are coming into quite the threat. Well, mankind just doesn't have the power, and now Necrons are threatening Chaos, and the Chaos forces are like 'well wtf guyz'. So, Chaos has to fight across the galaxy against the enemies that mankind were fighting against, perhaps even allying with loyalist forces against a common foe. This will be expanded on in the coming Codices, including Necron and Chaos Legions, which should set up for the big fluff change in 6th edition. Some of the rest sounded more like wish, opinion, and extrapolation; Void Dragon coming up, Primarchs coming back, Emperor's descendants being found by an unnamed portion of the Imperium in order to fight the Void Dragon, etc etc...

Now here are some other things that are founded in reality: Matt Ward? Gone. Don't expect him to be writing any more Codices. His baby was 5th edition, and now that 5th edition is up, Ward is done. Board Members for GW? 3 of the old geezers gone. Company-wide changes. Everything since Tyranids? Made for 6th edition.

Speaking of 6th edition again, the main rulebook that comes out is supposed to be 'the book to rule all books'. It'll have ways to include Superheavies and rules for Fliers in regular games, and should errata a lot of rules in Apocalypse, past FAQ's, and past Codices to make it all fit together. It'll have updated stuff for Planetstrike, Cities of Death, etc, perhaps even to make room for more expansions in the future.

Ugh. The person I heard this from is a good friend and reliable source, and the person *he* got this information from is an unnamed employee of a certain facet of our favorite gaming company that deals with items made out of a material that is notorious for melting if exposed to direct sunlight and heat. By the way, all those rule sets that Forgeworld has been making? They may suddenly find themselves approved for regular games.

Hastings said Chaos vs Dark Angels and I would be very suprised if we got anything different. BTW...he wasn't the first to state that the new starter box would be DA vs Chaos...

AesSedai back in September of 2011 wrote:3) The boxed set for 6th with be Chaos versus Dark Angels.

**Kiwidru**

If GW was really looking to attract more female attention you would think they would make more female sculpts for all armies. It seems strange to say "girls will like this because it has vibrant colors and sleek models" although now that it's written in front of me it does kind of sell itself.

**gorgon**

Zweischneid wrote:Well, to be fair, 99% of the Chaos Rumours also sound like highly improbable wishlisting in blatant contradiction of previous Chaos-work, unless GW is planning to publish Warhammer 30K that is.

Once again, GW is more than fine with retcons and blatent contradictions.

Also, here's one way to reconcile "won't do power armor vs power armor" and "chaos in the boxed set." Perhaps the Chaos presence is wholly or partially cultists, which was rumored a while back.

**Redemption**

wyomingfox wrote:
Redemption wrote:
- Harry originally states Eldar as in the Starter Set, however, backs out after Hastings mentions DA vs Chaos.

Huh? Please quote as I don't think Harry has ever said that.

Can't find his original post, but here's two posts of Harry where he's basically reiterating he had Eldar vs Chaos until Hastings posted Dark Angels.
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?334631-What-s-next-for-40k-CLOSED&p=6111617&viewfull=1#post6111617
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?332187-It-is-not-easy-predicting-the-future&p=6068380&viewfull=1#post6068380

So we had Harry's original sources as Eldar versus Chaos, then Hastings with Dark Angels versus Chaos, and now this guy with Eldar versus Dark Angels.
Which one has the correct rumour?

**Do_I_Not_Like_That**

This may be the wrong thread, but who gives a monkey's ass about Eldar? Where in god's name is the new Brettonian army book?

**Just Dave**

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:This may be the wrong thread, but who gives a monkey's ass about Eldar? Where in god's name is the new Brettonian army book?

Same place as the Tyranids Second Wa---- Oh...

**Electro**

Redemption wrote:
wyomingfox wrote:
Redemption wrote:
- Harry originally states Eldar as in the Starter Set, however, backs out after Hastings mentions DA vs Chaos.

Huh? Please quote as I don't think Harry has ever said that.

Can't find his original post, but here's two posts of Harry where he's basically reiterating he had Eldar vs Chaos until Hastings posted Dark Angels.
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?334631-What-s-next-for-40k-CLOSED&p=6111617&viewfull=1#post6111617
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?332187-It-is-not-easy-predicting-the-future&p=6068380&viewfull=1#post6068380

So we had Harry's original sources as Eldar versus Chaos, then Hastings with Dark Angels versus Chaos, and now this guy with Eldar versus Dark Angels.
Which one has the correct rumour?

I I was told by a guy who knows a guy who once stole Matt Wards lunch money that it's going to be a 3 army box set and they are all correct.