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The next codex is Space Termites in May/June/July/Decemtobernuary 201*atchoo*. I'm credible because I'm a raging alcoholic and I hear voices that claim to be GW insiders. So while the doctor may have *a* source, I've got hundreds of them.

ChiliPowderKeg wrote:
The release that may sound cool or promising, but when mortal eyes gaze upon it and its unexpected hideousness thousands of Rage threads launch across wargaming forums. Wargamer blogs are thrown into long winded fits and disagreeing commenters. And posts in other places may as well be translated by little children making angry pew pew noises.

I'm confused.

How will we be able to tell this from any other day on a gamin website?

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

Heck even older codices such as Space Wolves, Dark Eldar and Necrons

Actually I'm curious, what rules from SW,DE don't make sense in 5th edition?

Lukas the Trickster has a cloak that protects him from directed hits in close combat, except there's no such thing in 5th edition. In the Dark Eldar codex, there's a named character that allows you to reroll the dice to choose the deployment zone, which again, doesn't exist in 5th edition.

Funnily enough, both existed in that 'leaked 6th edition playtest pdf'.

Absolutionis wrote:GW has gone from rumor lockdown to rumor falsification.
Maybe they're trying to crack down on rumor sources by feeding false info.

That is exactly what I am thinking.
Both Tau and Eldar rumours for this year sound fabricated and don't fit the rest of trusted rumours.
I expect both Tau and Eldar next year and not in the starter box.
As Harry said: Chaos Legions Codex next, with some odd non-Codex releases (which is something different than a splash release!) until then.

Lukas the Trickster has a cloak that protects him from directed hits in close combat, except there's no such thing in 5th edition.

I was going to argue with you here..But than I realized he didn't have Independent character, well done.

In the Dark Eldar codex, there's a named character that allows you to reroll the dice to choose the deployment zone, which again, doesn't exist in 5th edition.

Same as this.

While GW has never released Marines vs Marines *literally*...

It's obvious they don't particularly care for non-Marines; examples include Codex Tyranids, Codex Sisters of Battle, and Codex Chaos Space Marines. FFFS, Chaos are marines too, but GW still hates them.

As a Eldar player and a DA player I'd be overjoyed at the confirmation of these rumours. But Eldar, it really is coming out of right field isn't it. E vs DA box or first release hasn't been visited for a very long time. DA's almost certain, but I'm thinking that the stream of recent rumours about chaos is more spot on than eldar...as much as I like them or would like to agree with DrBored's reasons for them being next.

GW ur so wiley! Just tell us. I'ma have to get Tom Cruise to head over to Nottingham for a little night of Mission Impossible.

I don't buy this at all. I think it is a bunch of rubbish written when the last white dwarf spine became apparent.

If I was a betting man; my money would be on a 2012 Chaos release. It is a key part of 40K, and GW knows the
current codex is a failure. They want to increase revenue and quarterly earnings; a chaos renaissance would do
just that.

CHAOS IS BEGIN TO GROW


i heard this from a reliable source my wishes and heart

Redemption wrote:An interesting tidbit from Warseer, even if it goes directly against Hasting's rumours.

drbored wrote:I got a rare opportunity to ply a wealth of information for some knowledge and insight about what's coming up next/soon.

-B. Eldar is currently the worst selling army.
-C. Eldar has a massive loyal fanbase.

Worst selling army.... massive loyal fanbase.... Does not compute. Does not compute.

Kroothawk wrote:To add to the confusion, Warseer veteran shabbadoo was told by a drinking buddy, that June will see a full Tau Codex release.

I think they are trying to drive me to drink


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Kroothawk wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:GW has gone from rumor lockdown to rumor falsification.
Maybe they're trying to crack down on rumor sources by feeding false info.

That is exactly what I am thinking.

I thought that Hastings let slip that a particlular rumor that was going around a while back was exactly that...an intentional false rumor started by GW to specifically find a corporate mole. Now, let's see who can dig through warseer and find the quote first 1,2,3...GO!


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hastings wrote:

fable wrote:To the same point, as much as Tasty has suggested sticking to his guns about DA/Chaos in the boxed set... BOK originally announced Eldar vs Chaos. It looks like they share a similar information source to Harry as he's saying he had that same information around the same time.

There's a reason for the Eldar vs Chaos starter rumour - it was misinformation meant to out a leak

First off, I don't think a release schedule missing a post-6th edition Codex: Space Marines release is a schedule worth giving credence to. Its their largest base of sales and I can't remember them hesitating overly long after the previous two edition releases.

Second, I agree with the above on rumor falsification. Its pretty obvious that people are being spoonfed BS or are simply dummy accounts for the purposes of misdirection. And its getting really annoying.

Finally, if GW really wants to keep people in the dark and drive down hype, let them. Stop artificially supporting them with threads like this so they can feel the actual effects of a teaser-less marketing strategy. They might actually come around if they're given a chance to recognize the failings.

WHAT ABOUT TAU???

:(

Oh, yeah...Hastings said back on 2-3-12 that the Eldar Chaos Box set rumor was a deliberate falsehood to expose a leak.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?332187-It-is-not-easy-predicting-the-future&p=6069881#post6069881

theironjef wrote:

Redemption wrote:An interesting tidbit from Warseer, even if it goes directly against Hasting's rumours.

drbored wrote:I got a rare opportunity to ply a wealth of information for some knowledge and insight about what's coming up next/soon.

-B. Eldar is currently the worst selling army.
-C. Eldar has a massive loyal fanbase.

Worst selling army.... massive loyal fanbase.... Does not compute. Does not compute.

Yeah it does actually.

Eldar, as an army, are not selling to new players.

Eldar already have an installed, loyal fanbase who do not necessarily need to buy anything for their armies.

If you introduce a new Codex, with new units and shiny resculpts of older units you get sales going to the fanbase and the new Codex gets those players who are not buying the current army to come off the fence and go for it.

Can we have dark Angels in May and eldar in Oct with the box set in September so I can save up for the box release please
No really I would be interested in starting eldar, but if a box set might come out I'll whole off for time being.

Unless Tau or CSMs are in the starter, just give me the mini rulebook.

This "Eldar in the box set to draw in girls" rumour smells a lot like the urban legend that refuses to die claiming that the Tau were invented explicitly to boost sales in Japan.

On one level they're just silly, harmless if a little juvenile conspiracy theories about what sort of person likes what sort of army.
On another level, a kinda sinister form of othering where it just gets taken for granted that any player who doesn't fit the game's main demographic needs an army or release specifically catering to them in order to enjoy the product.

JOHIRA wrote:This "Eldar in the box set to draw in girls" rumour smells a lot like the urban legend that refuses to die claiming that the Tau were invented explicitly to boost sales in Japan.

On one level they're just silly, harmless if a little juvenile conspiracy theories about what sort of person likes what sort of army.
On another level, a kinda sinister form of othering where it just gets taken for granted that any player who doesn't fit the game's main demographic needs an army or release specifically catering to them in order to enjoy the product.

Well maybe I am way off base, however, I never thought that the Anime/manga kids hung out with the traditional comic book nerds.

Kanluwen wrote:

theironjef wrote:

Redemption wrote:An interesting tidbit from Warseer, even if it goes directly against Hasting's rumours.

drbored wrote:I got a rare opportunity to ply a wealth of information for some knowledge and insight about what's coming up next/soon.

-B. Eldar is currently the worst selling army.
-C. Eldar has a massive loyal fanbase.

Worst selling army.... massive loyal fanbase.... Does not compute. Does not compute.

Yeah it does actually.

Eldar, as an army, are not selling to new players.

Eldar already have an installed, loyal fanbase who do not necessarily need to buy anything for their armies.

If you introduce a new Codex, with new units and shiny resculpts of older units you get sales going to the fanbase and the new Codex gets those players who are not buying the current army to come off the fence and go for it.

Absolutely!

Put some awesome new Eldar miniatures in the box set, lots of them at a good deal.

Include a never before in plastic option like Wraithguard.

Vets buy it because it is a good deal.

New players buy also buy it because it is a good deal. And then they buy lots of other Eldar stuff.

An army which wasn't selling all that well is now a good seller indeed.

And, we all win?

Alpharius wrote:

And, we all win?

I like that this is somehow a question.

Someones going to lose to the new eldar, so there are losers.

mwa ha ha!

If I had to hazard a guess I'd say that SOB are the worst selling army in 40K. However I'd concede that as they are generally not as 'available' as the rest of the 40k armies, this will affect the amount of players.

But of the armies that you could walk into a store tomorrow and buy, I'm actually fairly sure that Tau don't sell as well as Eldar. I spend a lot of time in many GW's across the country and definately see more people picking up Eldar stuff, whether it be new kids or people with existing armies, than I see starting or building on existing Tau armies.

Just my thoughts, but the comments about Eldar being the worst selling army and also the comment about appealing to females don't ring true, especially the latter which is just ridiculous.

sillyness eldar in the starter.

i am going to call it right now. and i will eat my hat if i am wrong. Eldar WON'T be in the starter kit.

that is all folks

We wil old you to that. Heh heh heh

More rumour stuff, as posted in another thread:

skoffs wrote:

Adeptus Miniatures wrote:After a long night of gaming with our local gamesworkshop lads we can confirm all new leaked info for the next few months ahead!!! Next month we will see the second wave of releases for the necrons! This includes wraiths, doom scythes and much more!! We can also confirm in the months after this all new dark angels and all new chaos legions codex to go hand in hand with the release of the much anticipated 40k 6th addition!!!!!!! :O (Oh btw theres some fine case lord of the rings too but thats not all important)

https://www.facebook.com/AdeptusMinatures

Adeptus Miniatures wrote:Indeed I do have my methods.... We went round one of the staff's houses the other night. Got talking about new releases and managed to get this information out of them! Info straight from nottingham's head office!

Sounds like they're repeating current rumours to pass them off as their own to me, whilst BoW say no Scythes in the 2nd wave.
But still, more info is more info.

JOHIRA wrote:On another level, a kinda sinister form of othering where it just gets taken for granted that any player who doesn't fit the game's main demographic needs an army or release specifically catering to them in order to enjoy the product.

If you're worried about "othering", look at what GW's already doing: how many of GW's human-like ranges treat women as non-entities? If "a kinda sinister form of othering" means releasing an army where men and women are treated as equals, then I say bring it on!

I haven't read this entire thread but someone I know went to GW HQ on business and saw the new starter set and it is Choas Vs DA, as much as I'd love to see Eldar in there.

He said there are only about 5 Power armoured CSM in there though and the rest are 'Cultists' (not traitor IG as I queried)...

If the CSM codex is far off those 'Cultists' are going to be unusable for a while...

I know this all sounds odd which is why it's probably true.

Anyhoo take it or leave it just what I heard...

RandyMcStab wrote:I haven't read this entire thread but someone I know went to GW HQ on business and saw the new starter set and it is Choas Vs DA, as much as I'd love to see Eldar in there.
He said there are only about 5 Power armoured CSM in there though and the rest are 'Cultists' (not traitor IG as I queried)...
If the CSM codex is far off those 'Cultists' are going to be unusable for a while...
I know this all sounds odd which is why it's probably true.
Anyhoo take it or leave it just what I heard...

Actually, that is exactly what I expected from what Hastings predicted. (with upcoming Chaos Legions Codex giving rules for cultists).
Even if some people have "trustworthy sources" confirming the following Codices for May/JUne: Black Templar, Dark Angels, Chaos Legion, Eldar and Tau.

Personally, I'd consider Randy' about as trustworthy as Hastings and Harry, so if he says he's seen it...