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2013/06/03 13:22:16
Subject: Game of thrones season 3 episode 9!? [Spoilers]
Gitzbitah wrote: Other than Daenerys, I don't think any of the current cast will see the end in their current forms.
Even Daenerys isn't technically safe. She might fulfil the prophecy, but so do half a dozen other characters.
Part of the theme of the series is 'prophecies are crap'.
You know, it really isn't her part in the prophecies that makes her safe to me. It is the fact that she's the only character with any dragons, and that they seem to be totally uncontrollable when they are separated from her. If the dragons are going to be in the final showdown, then they need Daenerys alive.
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2013/06/03 13:24:22
Subject: Game of thrones season 3 episode 9!? [Spoilers]
Gitzbitah wrote: Other than Daenerys, I don't think any of the current cast will see the end in their current forms.
Even Daenerys isn't technically safe. She might fulfil the prophecy, but so do half a dozen other characters.
Part of the theme of the series is 'prophecies are crap'.
You know, it really isn't her part in the prophecies that makes her safe to me. It is the fact that she's the only character with any dragons, and that they seem to be totally uncontrollable when they are separated from her. If the dragons are going to be in the final showdown, then they need Daenerys alive.
Not really...It hasn't shown up in the series yet, but in the books there's something that will really ruin Danni's day.
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2013/06/03 13:51:26
Subject: Game of thrones season 3 episode 9!? [Spoilers]
Gitzbitah wrote: Other than Daenerys, I don't think any of the current cast will see the end in their current forms.
Even Daenerys isn't technically safe. She might fulfil the prophecy, but so do half a dozen other characters.
Part of the theme of the series is 'prophecies are crap'.
You know, it really isn't her part in the prophecies that makes her safe to me. It is the fact that she's the only character with any dragons, and that they seem to be totally uncontrollable when they are separated from her. If the dragons are going to be in the final showdown, then they need Daenerys alive.
Not really...It hasn't shown up in the series yet, but in the books there's something that will really ruin Danni's day.
Jorah (in the books) has been able to unknowingly get Rheagal to obey him, that one time he basically 'asked' Dany the meaning of Dracarys by simply speaking it... Rheagal gives him a funny look and then singes his eyebrows rather badly!
Spoiler:
I have a feeling that Jorah & Tyrion are ment to become the other Dragonriders... Tyrion with his dragon dreams and Visarion being gold in colour, just like the Lannister Lion. While Rheagal is green, (and House Mormont's colours are a black bear on a green field), and how Dany sees him as a surrogate for Rheagar.
Spoiler:
The horn I think will simply make the dragons' ears bleed epically. What's coming over the Wall is more than badass enough - adding angry controlled-against-their-will dragons to the mix as well? It'd simply be too much, especially considering the raping Westeros is likely to take overall as winter sets in and Dany isn't coming to save the day until book 7.
Now, who's up for King Joffrey's wedding next episode?!
2013/06/03 14:04:44
Subject: Game of thrones season 3 episode 9!? [Spoilers]
I guess because I am old, and have seen a lot of people die in RL, the ones on GOT does not really effect me much..but I kinda had a idea what I was getting into when first season offed ole Ed.
Have not read the books, and don't intend too, Lotr was a sad event for me since half the wonder of the setting was ruined for me , since I had read the books multiple times in my youth, and knew the story very well.
GOT is great for me since I don't really know where the ride is going, and the only character I honestly have even a small vested emotional tie to is Tyrion , little guy has balls the size of churchbells.
One thing HBO and GRRM have succeeded in doing is bring actual risk into a series, and bad people tend to get away with a lot..that's why they are bad people..in a world like westeros its usually the cruel and remorseless that triumph. Since they are willing to do anything to get it.
But that makes any wins the more noble types can achieve all the sweeter.
robs wife was not supposed to be there, she got sent off. so I wonder, what if GRRM had some future plans for her or her kid?
Spoiler:
Jayne's mother in the books has been giving her a number of potions to induce a miscarriage while she arranges a proper 'Lannister' marriage for Jayne. Her story is pretty much wrapped-up in the 4th book and that Martin allowed Talissa to be killed off should put all the 'does Rob still have a true heir' questions/speculations to bed.
2013/06/03 15:21:59
Subject: Game of thrones season 3 episode 9!? [Spoilers]
Gitzbitah wrote: Other than Daenerys, I don't think any of the current cast will see the end in their current forms.
Even Daenerys isn't technically safe. She might fulfil the prophecy, but so do half a dozen other characters.
Part of the theme of the series is 'prophecies are crap'.
You know, it really isn't her part in the prophecies that makes her safe to me. It is the fact that she's the only character with any dragons, and that they seem to be totally uncontrollable when they are separated from her. If the dragons are going to be in the final showdown, then they need Daenerys alive.
Not really...It hasn't shown up in the series yet, but in the books there's something that will really ruin Danni's day.
Jorah (in the books) has been able to unknowingly get Rheagal to obey him, that one time he basically 'asked' Dany the meaning of Dracarys by simply speaking it... Rheagal gives him a funny look and then singes his eyebrows rather badly!
Spoiler:
I have a feeling that Jorah & Tyrion are ment to become the other Dragonriders... Tyrion with his dragon dreams and Visarion being gold in colour, just like the Lannister Lion. While Rheagal is green, (and House Mormont's colours are a black bear on a green field), and how Dany sees him as a surrogate for Rheagar.
Spoiler:
The horn I think will simply make the dragons' ears bleed epically. What's coming over the Wall is more than badass enough - adding angry controlled-against-their-will dragons to the mix as well? It'd simply be too much, especially considering the raping Westeros is likely to take overall as winter sets in and Dany isn't coming to save the day until book 7.
Now, who's up for King Joffrey's wedding next episode?!
Spoiler:
Jon Snow, and Aegon IV will be the other dragon riders, being the only other two surviving Targaryans.
Full Frontal Nerdity
2013/06/03 16:19:59
Subject: Game of thrones season 3 episode 9!? [Spoilers]
Gitzbitah wrote: It is the fact that she's the only character with any dragons, and that they seem to be totally uncontrollable when they are separated from her.
There are...developments.
The only major characters that I suspect are somewhat safe are Brann (in a manner of speaking) and Arya (and I don't think that she will have a major role to play). I could easily see any of the others, at least those still alive, being killed off.
Jon Snow, and Aegon IV will be the other dragon riders, being the only other two surviving Targaryans.
Spoiler:
Thats assuming that John Snow is a Targaryen and that he will actually survive the assasination attempt
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2013/06/03 16:26:03
Subject: Game of thrones season 3 episode 9!? [Spoilers]
Gitzbitah wrote: It is the fact that she's the only character with any dragons, and that they seem to be totally uncontrollable when they are separated from her.
There are...developments.
The only major characters that I suspect are somewhat safe are Brann (in a manner of speaking) and Arya (and I don't think that she will have a major role to play). I could easily see any of the others, at least those still alive, being killed off.
Jon Snow, and Aegon IV will be the other dragon riders, being the only other two surviving Targaryans.
Spoiler:
Thats assuming that John Snow is a Targaryen and that he will actually survive the assasination attempt
Spoiler:
There is always the possibility that Martin has just been putting out the little peices of bait to make us think so, and then he'll switch it up, but it just makes to much sense. He's the one who knows the North. Knows the Walkers. He'll be the ones leading the fight against them. Also, Melisendre is at Castle Black. She knows Jon's important, the Red God has shown her that. She won't let him die.
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Full Frontal Nerdity
2013/06/03 21:30:48
Subject: Game of thrones season 3 episode 9!? [Spoilers]
Jon Snow, and Aegon IV will be the other dragon riders, being the only other two surviving Targaryans.
Spoiler:
Jon Snow is Ahzi Azor reborn - he gets the true Lightbringer instead of a dragon.
Young Aegon seems like a false king type of plant - especially with how Tyrion shows him up when they're playing their chess-like strategy game. (Aegon makes a bunch of dumb moves, Tyrion punks him and then Aegon rage flips the table)
Being a Targaryan or a bastard Targaryan doesn't instantly mean you're destined to be a dragonrider...
Besides, Dany almost certainly needs her dragonriders sorted out before she gets to Westeros, and (in Tyrion's case especially), there's been some subtle hints about who the other riders could be.
2013/06/03 21:33:27
Subject: Re:Game of thrones season 3 episode 9!? [Spoilers]
Yeah, they went pretty brutal about it, specifically stabbing Talissa in the chest. That was really the only surprising thing in the episode for me, didn't see that level of brutality coming.
I do wish they had gone a bit more indepth into the meaning behind the bread and salt. Those who have read the books understood it, but those who haven't have no idea of extra level of vileness that Frey's actions entailed.
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2013/06/03 21:54:15
Subject: Game of thrones season 3 episode 9!? [Spoilers]
Ratbarf wrote: Yeah, breaking guest rights makes you a man to loathe in pretty much every culture.
I believe it's mentioned that the only crime considered worse is kingslaying & kinslaying!
The sheer look of glee on old Walder's face as he's watching the slaughter while enjoying his wine was pretty fethed-up too... Here's hoping that his end goes something like;
a) Ser Jorah buggers him up the bum with his sword, then...
b) Aryia cuts out his testicles & hangs him by his eyeballs, then...
c) Tyrions hacks his legs off for the slight to the Lannisters, then...
d) Dany & Drogon BBQ him up good!
That would at least begin to satisfy me!
2013/06/03 22:08:39
Subject: Game of thrones season 3 episode 9!? [Spoilers]
When this played a chill ran down my spine. Lannister is still my favorite house. None of the others have a song for fething exterminating their enemies like roaches.
I've sold so many armies. :(
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2013/06/03 22:44:06
Subject: Re:Game of thrones season 3 episode 9!? [Spoilers]
They may have a kick@$$ song... And Tyrion especially & Jamie may be among the best characters in the whole series...
But feth the lot of them!!! House Lannister has sent Westeros to hell in a hand basket and only Tyrion deserves to live. However I do hope that Jamie gets a suitably epic & heroic death since he is trying to redeem himself.
2013/06/03 22:45:18
Subject: Game of thrones season 3 episode 9!? [Spoilers]
Jon Snow, and Aegon IV will be the other dragon riders, being the only other two surviving Targaryans.
Spoiler:
Jon Snow is Ahzi Azor reborn - he gets the true Lightbringer instead of a dragon.
Still not convinced.
Spoiler:
There's half a dozen characters that match the 'reborn in salt and smoke' prophecy to be Azor Ahai, simply because, as I mentioned earlier, a theme in the show is 'prophecies are crap' (for example - Drogos son was prophecised to be 'the Stallion that mounts the world'. Didn't work out quite that way. Even Dany fit the prophecy by the end of Dance.
The part about him being a Targaryen is intriguing, but its only hanging around because of Martins complete refusal to say anything about his mother. It could very well be yet another red herring.
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2013/06/03 22:46:34
Subject: Re:Game of thrones season 3 episode 9!? [Spoilers]
Experiment 626 wrote: They may have a kick@$$ song... And Tyrion especially & Jamie may be among the best characters in the whole series...
But feth the lot of them!!! House Lannister has sent Westeros to hell in a hand basket and only Tyrion deserves to live. However I do hope that Jamie gets a suitably epic & heroic death since he is trying to redeem himself.
Well too be fair...technically it was Robert who fethed everything up with his revolution. He was not a competent king and his complacency bankrupted the country and gave nobles too much power. Under the mad king the country was rich, and he kept the nobles in line. Sure, he was a depraved bastard, but at least the country was stable.
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2013/06/03 22:48:55
Subject: Re:Game of thrones season 3 episode 9!? [Spoilers]