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Glorious Lord of Chaos






The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer

WOW! That was a great read, Sydney! I especially enjoyed it when and after the Astartes entered the scene; you made him interesting and still managed to make the colossal ass take less space in the story than they usually do, which is simply admirable and makes him fun to read about without being overwhelming. Not only that, I find this inspiring. I think I'll go back to writing. It's been too long.

Write more, please!

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I should think of a new signature... In the meantime, have a  
   
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Many thanks. I'll have to devote my writing energy to finishing my master's thesis for the next couple of months, but that should give me plenty of time to brainstorm more ideas, inshallah.

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 Psienesis wrote:
Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

I’m updating that fandex now & I’m eager for feedback on new home-brew units for the Sisters: Sororitas Bikers, infiltrators & Novices, tanks, flyers, characters, superheavies, Frateris Militia, and now Confessors and Battle Conclave characters
My Novice Ginevra stories start with Bolter B-Word Privileges 
   
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I tweaked the thread title a little for more alliteration.

I'm also still surprised no one has picked up on who Ginevra and Portia are (unconsciously) imitating when they go into the store....

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 Psienesis wrote:
Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

I’m updating that fandex now & I’m eager for feedback on new home-brew units for the Sisters: Sororitas Bikers, infiltrators & Novices, tanks, flyers, characters, superheavies, Frateris Militia, and now Confessors and Battle Conclave characters
My Novice Ginevra stories start with Bolter B-Word Privileges 
   
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Papua New Guinea

Haven't got a clue who they might be imitating!

Be Pure!
Be Vigilant!
BEHAVE!

Show me your god and I'll send you a warhead because my god's bigger than your god.
 
   
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It's a subtle callback to The Beginning. Portia is imitating her horrid, arrogant, imperious mother (whom she last saw at age 4). Ginevra is imitating her hard-eyed, penny-pinching grandmother, with whom she and her mother lived after her father went to war.

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 Psienesis wrote:
Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

I’m updating that fandex now & I’m eager for feedback on new home-brew units for the Sisters: Sororitas Bikers, infiltrators & Novices, tanks, flyers, characters, superheavies, Frateris Militia, and now Confessors and Battle Conclave characters
My Novice Ginevra stories start with Bolter B-Word Privileges 
   
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UK

Ahh ok, clever - I was trying to think of a film or TV show !

I AM A MARINE PLAYER

"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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Preacher of the Emperor






Well, when I'm making references to my own work, it's a little more obscure than say, JK Rowling or Joss Whedon.

Or Manganiello. People did figure out what actor I "cast" as the Space Marine, right?

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 Psienesis wrote:
Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

I’m updating that fandex now & I’m eager for feedback on new home-brew units for the Sisters: Sororitas Bikers, infiltrators & Novices, tanks, flyers, characters, superheavies, Frateris Militia, and now Confessors and Battle Conclave characters
My Novice Ginevra stories start with Bolter B-Word Privileges 
   
Made in gb
Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'





Papua New Guinea

 SisterSydney wrote:
It's a subtle callback to The Beginning.


 Mr Morden wrote:
Ahh ok, clever - I was trying to think of a film or TV show !


Ditto on that one, I thought it was going to be something obscure.

 SisterSydney wrote:

Or Manganiello. People did figure out what actor I "cast" as the Space Marine, right?


You're making me feel bad now I shall google that name momentarily...

EDIT: Okay, first Google result is some hirsute dude who is apparently in True Blood (which I have never seen), is that him? Do I get a cookie, probably not, I kinda cheated didn't I?

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Be Pure!
Be Vigilant!
BEHAVE!

Show me your god and I'll send you a warhead because my god's bigger than your god.
 
   
Made in us
Preacher of the Emperor






You still get an imaginary Sydney cookie. (Not a digital software cookie that tracks your online behavior or something, don't worry).

Yes, he plays a very sweet (spoiler?) werewolf in True Blood. My normal casting choices for Astartes would be bald, intermittently funny tough guys like Jason Statham and Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson, but I needed someone who could pull off "really nice guy you would totally trust with a 16-year-old girl and who just happens to be a massively muscled killing machine," and the only actor I know who can do that is Manganiello.

Well, also Lesley Clarke Duncan, but (a) he's dead -- which is just damn sad, he was awesome -- and (b) casting him in this role, as a supporting character who's the voice of sanity and humanity, would smack of the Magical Negro cliche, which was the problem with The Green Mile too.

Yes, I know the 40K 'verse desperately needs more non-white characters, and in this story you actually get two, Torres and Glass, although they're still in supporting roles.

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 Psienesis wrote:
Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

I’m updating that fandex now & I’m eager for feedback on new home-brew units for the Sisters: Sororitas Bikers, infiltrators & Novices, tanks, flyers, characters, superheavies, Frateris Militia, and now Confessors and Battle Conclave characters
My Novice Ginevra stories start with Bolter B-Word Privileges 
   
Made in gb
Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'





Papua New Guinea

I liked him, it was a damn shame him dying at a relatively young age. I suppose that's how it can go sometimes for these big fellas though.

I understand now the reference to Manganiello although I am not familiar with him as an actor (or anything else for that matter). If the Captain character is at all like his True Blood character then I can see why you would have used that, a huge bloke but somewhat bashful in polite company. I have a relative who's got quite a prominent job in the British army and I have seen him ordering soldiers and how he is in an ordinary setting is vastly different, but then my experience of soldiers is of overgrown schoolboys, especially when you're kicking them in the shins playing killerball, and they are in their fifties, covered in tattoos and cackling like a madman!

Be Pure!
Be Vigilant!
BEHAVE!

Show me your god and I'll send you a warhead because my god's bigger than your god.
 
   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut





Calgary, AB

I think it's just a thing that someone gets used to... It's 40k, so, honestly, I there have been many instances where I've had coloured people pop into my head, sometimes not even realizing it happened until a detail is mentioned that the character is white. I get over it and keep reading. Somehow I needed up with quite a few officers and commissars as being of middle eastern lineage. The embarrassing for me to admit to is the presumption of most of forge world facilities inhabitants/workers to be asian. Then again though, in the HH series there are many middle eastern and asian cultures rooted in the lore. A lot of it does get lost in transition... I know Henry zou makes use of race in his books. I think there were issues, but he did a very good job on much, including touching on racial discourse. He's gotten a lot of flak over plagiarizing and copying, but it don't think he deserves it. The entire 40 k lore is raped from history and other writers, and names are ominous and shortcuts in many cases to understanding the character. Not just that, but I've seen many people get pigeonholed into a genre or series, and I think getting those segways and connections that people can follow along would be a great literary tool for getting readers out of the black library into a real library, and even thinking about things and getting engaged with the truth of things. In this I think zou does well because he gets race and a couple other issues into his books, and in a way that the reader can't just ignore it as a detail.

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16 successful trades as a seller;

To glimpse the future, you must look to the past and understand it. Names may change, but human behavior repeats itself. Prophetic insight is nothing more than profound hindsight.

It doesn't matter how bloody far the apple falls from the tree. If the apple fell off of a Granny Smith, that apple is going to grow into a Granny bloody Smith. The only difference is whether that apple grows in the shade of the tree it fell from. 
   
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I like your sister stories! I think you do a really good job at bringing out the humanity in the characters and dealing with the details of their lives.
I thought the music was good because as I read the scene it background music my head and it set the mood...The image of the Marine trying to comfort the future battle sister was much more poignant with "hallelujah" playing in my head. Not even the lyrics, but just the style of music helped enhance each of the settings.
I really, really like your space marine. I think that warrior-monks would have some of that decency that Manganiello does, and having known a few real-life spec-ops guys I think your portrayal of his pragmatism is spot-on. They may be killing machines, but they are also intelligent and I would hope that some of the emperor's good side is part of that geneseed and image they carry.

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. 
   
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Preacher of the Emperor






Thanks. A lot of my writing is influenced by the US military personnel I've interviewed as a reporter, including a fair number of Special Operators, and I can assure all on this board that none of them talks like a Marine in GW fluff/fiction or has such an enormous stick up his (or her) arse.....

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 Psienesis wrote:
Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

I’m updating that fandex now & I’m eager for feedback on new home-brew units for the Sisters: Sororitas Bikers, infiltrators & Novices, tanks, flyers, characters, superheavies, Frateris Militia, and now Confessors and Battle Conclave characters
My Novice Ginevra stories start with Bolter B-Word Privileges 
   
Made in gb
Mighty Vampire Count






UK

 SisterSydney wrote:
Thanks. A lot of my writing is influenced by the US military personnel I've interviewed as a reporter, including a fair number of Special Operators, and I can assure all on this board that none of them talks like a Marine in GW fluff/fiction or has such an enormous stick up his (or her) arse.....


Never had that privlage myself met some high ranking officers in Air Force etc but not SF (that I am aware of)... just reading your articels now - thanks for sharing

I think that Astartes and Special Operators are going to be different in pesonality - the Astartes have the relating to humanity issue, they dont have dependants, family or true down time - I wrote the following for my own games supplement thingy discussing this..........in case of interest......

I thought the Captain in the story was excellent and worked well - but I don't think many Astartes would be able to interact as successfully - Wrath of Iron shows the other extreme of this quite effectively - To the Iron Hands you are either able to assist in some small way or you are in the way and must be removed..............

Spoiler:
In many ways Space Marines are both more and less than the teeming mass of humanity – physically they appear to be perfect, if enlarged, versions of common humanity and their intellect, whilst necessarily focused is formidable and yet...

They lack or at the very least have modified versions of some of the baser emotions – such as Love and Fear. In addition, having been taken from the normal population at a young age, they usually have problems relating to normal human wants and needs. They mix and train with other superhuman giants and often the only humans they see are Chapter serfs or vassals.

Powerful emotions are not unknown to Space Marines... they feel good honest Hatred, often cited as one of the foundation stones of the Imperium and although “They shall know no fear” it is evident that they can feel intimidated and recognize superior opponents or untenable odds. Fear of Failure and the resulting Shame can be damaging to the mental state of a Marine and even a whole chapter has been committed to rash and foolish decisions to regain their honour or make amends. Pride in their work, their actions and the deeds of their fellows and Chapter in general are always a powerful force to a Marine but can make it difficult for them to accept advice or criticism from “lesser beings.”

Friendship and Brotherhood is ingrained into them and the bonds between squad mates are often very powerful, lasting as they may for decades. Perhaps given their Spartan style existence this is another reason for the Chem Geld? Anger is an emotion to be used and unleashed upon an enemy – although this can fester and gnaw at a Marine, especially when they have no outlet, and a enraged Marine can cause as many problems to his brothers as as to his enemies.

Faith varies in its nature from Chapter to Chapter; some, like the Black Templars are devotees, but to the irritation of the Ecclesiarchy, the majority of Space Marines do not follow the Imperial Cult – many within that organization actually consider the belief of many Chapters heresy whilst many of the Chapters consider the Imperial Cult as little more than fawning superstitions much removed from the reality of the Emperor and his Primarchs.

Other emotions are less important to a Marine – compassion and mercy are neither encouraged nor natural to a Marine – they have difficulty understanding what it is like to be as weak as a human. It is true that Compassion and Mercy in the Imperium is often best expressed by the following phrase:

In short they are not mere killing machines, they feel and think, perhaps differently – they hurt and consider the world around them – especially as they age. Humor is not unknown – at least in many chapters, and decades, even centuries of life can provide a unique insight into the workings of the Universe – or contribute to make even a Space Marine become insular and callous. Each marine, like any man, is different, retaining elements of their original personality after their transformation into a Space Marine.

Like the men who become Marines, every Chapter is very different, and even successor Chapters can be strange and uncanny places to Marines – as unsettling as the most bizarre Imperial world. In keeping with this diversity, each Chapter chooses the inheritors of their heritage in different ways – some take those that are about to die in battle – like the Space Wolves, others set great tasks to select the most worthy – like the Blood Angels. The more divergent from the Codex Astartes the Chapter is, the more bizarre or arcane the rituals of rebirth into the Chapter can be. Like any form of childhood, these are powerful periods in a Marine’s life and help to transform the remaining personality into something more fitting to the culture of the Chapter.

Some Chapters consider the past life of the neophyte is irrelevant and to be erased – treating their ascension into the ranks of Space Marines as a complete rebirth. They require only the skills of the supplicant and will reshape his mind and beliefs to their own requirements. Yet the majority of Marines retain memories, however faint, of their former life.

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I AM A MARINE PLAYER

"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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Preacher of the Emperor






Absolutely this character is on the "relates well to humans" end of a wide spectrum of space marine social skills -- his chapter is a kinder-and-gentler descendant of the Ultramarines, who themselves are depicted as well integrated into Ultramar society. I believe young nobles of Ultramar not only aspire to become Marines but even some contact with their families after.

That said, Brother-Captain Manganiello is clearly uncomfortable with civilians and shocked that anyone would leave neophytes alone in a civilian spaceport -- even though he'd have no problem sending Scouts on dangerous military missions.

The major theme of the story is the inability to integrate into civilian life (a recurring trial for real-life soldiers). The irony of the story is that while the Space Marine is no longer biologically human, he has more experience of normal human life than the biologically human Sisters, who don't even have (conscious) memories of what it was like to have a family.

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 Psienesis wrote:
Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

I’m updating that fandex now & I’m eager for feedback on new home-brew units for the Sisters: Sororitas Bikers, infiltrators & Novices, tanks, flyers, characters, superheavies, Frateris Militia, and now Confessors and Battle Conclave characters
My Novice Ginevra stories start with Bolter B-Word Privileges 
   
Made in gb
Mighty Vampire Count






UK

Definately and it come across well in the story - although I am guessing that Manganiello has not served wth the Salamanders given their whole thing with branding and atmonement / memorials

As ever - looking forward to more


I AM A MARINE PLAYER

"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page

A Bloody Road - my Warhammer Fantasy Fiction 
   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut





Calgary, AB

well, probably don't trust military kids around civvies given that what passes for good wholesome family fun in the military counts as assault, battery, public humiliation, emotional trauma and extensive physical therapy among civvies.

15 successful trades as a buyer;
16 successful trades as a seller;

To glimpse the future, you must look to the past and understand it. Names may change, but human behavior repeats itself. Prophetic insight is nothing more than profound hindsight.

It doesn't matter how bloody far the apple falls from the tree. If the apple fell off of a Granny Smith, that apple is going to grow into a Granny bloody Smith. The only difference is whether that apple grows in the shade of the tree it fell from. 
   
Made in us
Preacher of the Emperor






Well, in much of the 40K military and many real-life militaries around the world even today, yes. I think most Sororitas Novices, Marine Scouts, and modern Western troops (US, UK, France, Japan, South Korea, etc) are too well-disciplined to go around brutalizing people without orders.

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 Psienesis wrote:
Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

I’m updating that fandex now & I’m eager for feedback on new home-brew units for the Sisters: Sororitas Bikers, infiltrators & Novices, tanks, flyers, characters, superheavies, Frateris Militia, and now Confessors and Battle Conclave characters
My Novice Ginevra stories start with Bolter B-Word Privileges 
   
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Hey, I read your other stories not too long ago, just read this one. I like them a lot, and for quite some time I've had the same theory as you about the "fluff" being basically propaganda. I have a rather darker take on the nature of Marines, though. I see crazy indoctrination, large size, exploding-shell weapon, and distinctive, small overall number, and colorful armor and think: "These guys are terror troops."

But aliens and demons and traitors don't care, they don't know red marine from gray marine from blue marine. To them, it's just a large, easy to see target that requires a massive amount of logistical support (how much food must these guys consume?). They just aren't scary enough to an actual military. Who are they there to scare, than? Imperial Citizens. They're the bogeyman for possible rebels. You know, people with lasguns and stuff, but not a lot of big guns. Their presence strips support from planetary rebellions. These guys show up on a world that is having some troubles, a company of Space Marines shows up, will of the Emperor incarnate, pick a spot, and just wreck the place. Hab block 2 (say) of some hive spire, home of the rebellion gets 50 odd supermen running through, sending exploding shells into every business, home, doghouse, and sewer. They leave a big sign (proverbial, maybe) that says, "This is what the Emperor does to places with traitors." They don't even want to kill everybody, they want word to spread so everybody turns in the maybe-rebel next door to avoid getting their own neighborhood wrecked. When the Imperium wants to really fight someone, they use artillery.

Sorry, off the soapbox now. This is what happens to Guard players after long enough.
   
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Calgary, AB

oh no, aliens and daemons and traitors do know their legions apart. Some of them contract a special love for certain chapters. Otherwise it defeats the purpose of the entire heresy and half the fluff. The Tau for instance have a special place in their itty bitty blue hearts for the ultramarines. The tau defeated them but were forced to give up because the ultramarines were ready to write off the whole planet in an astronomical nuclear flame. Then there's the special on-and-off-again love-hate relationship between the space wolves and thousand sons. Ultramarines and word bearers are another pair. What about armageddon? The orks keep their eyes open for yarrick, he makes for a right and proper good fight.... and these are just the easy ones I can pull out. The non-imperials do care who they fight, because it goes into history. Eldar like to pretend they don't care, but they so very sorely do. The only ones that don't care are tyranids and necrons.

15 successful trades as a buyer;
16 successful trades as a seller;

To glimpse the future, you must look to the past and understand it. Names may change, but human behavior repeats itself. Prophetic insight is nothing more than profound hindsight.

It doesn't matter how bloody far the apple falls from the tree. If the apple fell off of a Granny Smith, that apple is going to grow into a Granny bloody Smith. The only difference is whether that apple grows in the shade of the tree it fell from. 
   
Made in us
Preacher of the Emperor






And Tyranids may care too, because I bet we all have different flavors....

But yes, I imagine a major role for marines is a terror strike just as Biophysical described: find a highly visible center of resistance and smash it hard to break enemy morale -- which would of course work best on humans, since most of the Xenos don't seem to have morale in any recognizable way. I wouldn't imagine them terrorizing a random Hab block, though: more finding a command post, rebel governor's palace, or anti-starship battery and blowing that open for both physical and psychological impact on the enemy.

And the Guard comes in and does the unglamorous work and most of the dying, yeah.

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 Psienesis wrote:
Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

I’m updating that fandex now & I’m eager for feedback on new home-brew units for the Sisters: Sororitas Bikers, infiltrators & Novices, tanks, flyers, characters, superheavies, Frateris Militia, and now Confessors and Battle Conclave characters
My Novice Ginevra stories start with Bolter B-Word Privileges 
   
Made in gb
Mighty Vampire Count






UK

 SisterSydney wrote:
And Tyranids may care too, because I bet we all have different flavors....

But yes, I imagine a major role for marines is a terror strike just as Biophysical described: find a highly visible center of resistance and smash it hard to break enemy morale -- which would of course work best on humans, since most of the Xenos don't seem to have morale in any recognizable way. I wouldn't imagine them terrorizing a random Hab block, though: more finding a command post, rebel governor's palace, or anti-starship battery and blowing that open for both physical and psychological impact on the enemy.

And the Guard comes in and does the unglamorous work and most of the dying, yeah.


Tau have both morale to manage in battle and most importantly purely civilian populations to protect which makes them quite succeptable to pure terror tactics of the Astartes..... The Imperium does not tend to distnguish between those Xenos who are fighting and others There are other lesser known Xenos is the same position.

Eldar on Exodite worlds or Craftworld Colonies have the same issue - but in some ways even more so as they also have to protect the World Spirit / reportories of their Way Stones

Orks love a good fight but you can disrupt them by taking out leaders, Mechs etc

The new version of the Necrons tend to be extremely prideful so will single out specific enemies - and the Dark Eldar love worthy prey

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I AM A MARINE PLAYER

"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page

A Bloody Road - my Warhammer Fantasy Fiction 
   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut





Calgary, AB

 Mr Morden wrote:
 SisterSydney wrote:
And Tyranids may care too, because I bet we all have different flavors....

But yes, I imagine a major role for marines is a terror strike just as Biophysical described: find a highly visible center of resistance and smash it hard to break enemy morale -- which would of course work best on humans, since most of the Xenos don't seem to have morale in any recognizable way. I wouldn't imagine them terrorizing a random Hab block, though: more finding a command post, rebel governor's palace, or anti-starship battery and blowing that open for both physical and psychological impact on the enemy.

And the Guard comes in and does the unglamorous work and most of the dying, yeah.


Tau have both morale to manage in battle and most importantly purely civilian populations to protect which makes them quite succeptable to pure terror tactics of the Astartes..... The Imperium does not tend to distnguish between those Xenos who are fighting and others There are other lesser known Xenos is the same position.

Eldar on Exodite worlds or Craftworld Colonies have the same issue - but in some ways even more so as they also have to protect the World Spirit / reportories of their Way Stones

Orks love a good fight but you can disrupt them by taking out leaders, Mechs etc

The new version of the Necrons tend to be extremely prideful so will single out specific enemies - and the Dark Eldar love worthy prey


so... what then.... imperium is not susceptible to terror attacks? Chaos isn't susceptible to terror attacks? Both are susceptible. For orks it'd be more of a havoc attack, but the idea of wreaking chaos will work.
Chaos are susceptible, because there are different factions of different intensities of chaos. Bloodpact are highly organized, and an internal conflict was staged with the sons of sek, so those two chaos factions that didn't actually fight eachother are now fighting eachother. Similarily, if you want to upset a bunch of slaaneshi cults, all you have to do is drop a goremongering fighter in there and they'll be getting upset. For goremongers, you drop in a sorcerer. For sorcerers you drop in a pariah. Etc.

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Yes of course the Imperium is - thats what the Dark Eldar and many Chaos forces do all the time? My point was that many of the Xenos are as well....

The Tyranids are proably an exception as I can't see how terror tactics would work on them.

to upset Slaanesh forces- all you have to is pay more attention to one leader than the other

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bossfearless wrote:.....I do think that her decision to stay came on a bit too easily, like that scene could have used just a few more seconds of turmoil. Perhaps when she's contemplating her escape, a thought could flash through her mind of herself as an aging priestess in some backwater church way out in the plains where the Inquisition wouldn't think of looking for her, but then she realizes that the number of souls she'd save in that little parish somewhere pales in comparison to the lives she could be saving as a bolter bitch. If you've ever seen 25th Hour (if not, shame on you, go download that gak and watch it right the feth now) you just have to picture the father's speech at the end as Edward Norton is contemplating his own escape.


Paradigm wrote:
About the ending, as others have said, I think it maybe could be longer. The reference to the other stories was a great way of tying it all up, but maybe a couple of flash-forwards to life as either a full Sister or some priestess or runaway could be an interesting way of doing it, just to really get that 'time stands still' moment across


These two remarks stuck with me, and I pondered, and tonight, quite out of the blue, as I was looking at this story for quite another reason, something clicked -- so I've added a little something to that penultimate piece of the last scene, just before Ginevra makes her final choice. It's not a lot, just a few sentences, but I think it does add something which was missing.

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Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

I’m updating that fandex now & I’m eager for feedback on new home-brew units for the Sisters: Sororitas Bikers, infiltrators & Novices, tanks, flyers, characters, superheavies, Frateris Militia, and now Confessors and Battle Conclave characters
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I like that addition a lot, it really does add to the tragedy of just how alien she's become, and I think changes it very much from a choice to an inevitability. You realise she'll never fit in, and that the endless war is the only option, which I think is what you're going for.

Good stuff.

 
   
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Nicely done addition

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Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

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Gracias.

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 Psienesis wrote:
Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

I’m updating that fandex now & I’m eager for feedback on new home-brew units for the Sisters: Sororitas Bikers, infiltrators & Novices, tanks, flyers, characters, superheavies, Frateris Militia, and now Confessors and Battle Conclave characters
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Thoroughly enjoying the series. The personalisation in an impersonal universe makes the stories even more disturbing! Looking forward to more.

As an aside, when you get your Masters, will you change your name to MistressSydney? I am impressed by your stamina - a day job, a Masters and Dakka.

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And two children!

(Which makes the parts of this story about fatherhood particularly poignant for me).

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 Psienesis wrote:
Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

I’m updating that fandex now & I’m eager for feedback on new home-brew units for the Sisters: Sororitas Bikers, infiltrators & Novices, tanks, flyers, characters, superheavies, Frateris Militia, and now Confessors and Battle Conclave characters
My Novice Ginevra stories start with Bolter B-Word Privileges 
   
 
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