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I am nearly competed with my decade long Death Guard collection, only for all new stuff to come out. Not that I'm complaining too much... I've decided to hold off on Night Lords builds until the new edition. But I think my flamer theme might actually be viable now!
   
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I'd actually love to see something similar to AOS where the 4 powers have there own books so no need for a Daemons book then they give some more detailed lover to the 5 undivided legions and Dark Mechanicus in a 5 book (or 6th if the DM could be split out)

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'Straya... Mate.

Captyn_Bob wrote:

FW may not release rules for their OOP vehicles.

I emailed FW asking if my OOP Plague Hulk of Nurgle would be getting rules. It's been a week without reply :(

 
   
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Rippy, take a look at the FAQ GW released when 8th was announced. All current models, including FW will be playable.

They might not have got back to you get as I'm sure there are a lot of players as concerned as you and they might be getting swamped.

Hope the F&Q link helps a bit

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/22/the-new-edition-of-warhammer-40000-your-questions-answeredgw-homepage-post-2/

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'Straya... Mate.

Thanks mate, I have read that and they do say "all of your current GW models" and then "all of your FW models" (doesn't say current production there).

This leaves some ambiguity about whether out of production models like my Plague Hulk will get rules :(

Worse comes to worst, I can just run it as a defiler, but that isn't fun

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From FW's facebook page
" As the FAQ says, any models that are on sale right now from Forge World will receive rules support."

"On sale right now" is the term that has me worried.

DFTT 
   
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'Straya... Mate.

Captyn_Bob wrote:
From FW's facebook page
" As the FAQ says, any models that are on sale right now from Forge World will receive rules support."

"On sale right now" is the term that has me worried.

I am not hopeful :(


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Can someone from the UK please call Forge World and ask if Plague Hulk of Nurgle is getting rules?

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Captyn_Bob wrote:
 Roknar wrote:

WILD speculation here, but isn't there a miffed thunder warrior still out there somewhere that has somehow managed to to survive?


Ahh I would love that. This ties into the fluff of my personal force (which I would never share , as it's silly).

There are a couple of TW active in the 30k era. Nothing in 40k IIRC , which makes sense as they're engineered to die.

TBH I hope chaos don't get hit by numarine syndrome like empire have in AOS. We're getting a good nurgle release, and probably khorne and slaanesh down the line.
If we get traitor numarines... Haa


I don't care for the numarines. I haven't seen the actual lore yet but I'm very skeptical about it, never mind the whole sigmarine faction thing.
However, truescale plastic models?.....*drool*, the thought of getting truescale chaos models?....I don't want to go there, I might not come back XD.

Also I thought there were lore snippets that seemed to indicate a surviving thunder warrior that was none to pleased with ye old emps. Which was interesting as they were supposed to die.
Don't remember if that was 30k or 40k or even where I read it lol, but I do remember something along those lines.

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I would like to be able to play a Chaos Biker army!
   
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I hope Chaos is top tier just to get some variety in my matches.
   
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 Rogzor87 wrote:
I would like to be able to play a Chaos Biker army!
na-na-na-na DOOMRIIIIIIDER!

Though you can certainly play one now with some of the formations. Though I think the only ones are either Black Legion or Daemonkin.
   
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Nottingham (yay!)

Just spoke to FW on the phone. In summary:

"We're still waiting for official confirmation on 8ed rules coverage on OOP miniatures. All decisions have to be made not only by FW management but also approved by GW, so the process can take a little longer to get to an official state we can confirm. So I'm afraid the answer there is 'we don't know *yet*'.

With specific regard to the Plague Hulk, it was a very popular kit and was withdrawn from sale when the moulds broke. We are waiting to hear back from the FW Studio (and a GW confirmation) on if they're going to remake the mould or even sculpt a new master model, it is being talked about but I suspect the final decision will be kept close to their chest until a release is imminent. But obviously if it is rereleased it will have 8ed rules."

   
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I hope that we will see new Cult units, ala Scarab occult termies for each Cults.

maybe not in the beginning, but a couple of weeks or months later would be good.

Still waiting for my Zerkers on Juggernauts units...

Now the tidbits we've got so far from 8th, makes me think that Zerkers would be okay.

What really did hurt Zerkers was that FC din't give a bonus to Init anymore like it used to, and since there is no special CCW in a zerker unit outside of the Champ, who is forced to make CHallenges and thus would die first.

They would maybe have lots of attacks to strike, but they would not mitigate any of the returning attacks, like whne they could attack at init5.

Thats whats made them scary for a lot of people, They striked before Marines, killing enough so that the retaliation was minimal, and they could compete wiht faster units like Eldars,D Eldars and some of the Nids things, and even fight on par wiht most of the SM Big Shots.

Once this init bonus vanished, Zerkers became Meh at best, only redeeming fact was that they had lots of attacks, but with no special CCW options in the unit, it was a waste.

I hope that those" updated" profiles for all units, includes some options for CCW for Zerkers, something simple..."...two models can exchange a bolt pistol for a plasma pistol, and their CCW for a power weapon/Ligthning claw/Power fist/..."


 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
I wish foot Daemon Princes would be useful.

I love the 3.5 edition model without the dragon wings but I can never run it because Winged Princes have dominated the meta since...forever.


Honestly, i wish there was more movement options for D Princes.

In 3.5 i ran a Demonic speed Prince( Centaur like body, used the old Battle Shaggoth legs and the Metal 40k DPrince torso), BEST DPRINCE I EVER HAD!




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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
 Rogzor87 wrote:
I would like to be able to play a Chaos Biker army!
na-na-na-na DOOMRIIIIIIDER!

Though you can certainly play one now with some of the formations. Though I think the only ones are either Black Legion or Daemonkin.


Replace Painkiller with Doomrider in the lyrics...


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'Straya... Mate.

 lindsay40k wrote:
Just spoke to FW on the phone. In summary:

"We're still waiting for official confirmation on 8ed rules coverage on OOP miniatures. All decisions have to be made not only by FW management but also approved by GW, so the process can take a little longer to get to an official state we can confirm. So I'm afraid the answer there is 'we don't know *yet*'.

With specific regard to the Plague Hulk, it was a very popular kit and was withdrawn from sale when the moulds broke. We are waiting to hear back from the FW Studio (and a GW confirmation) on if they're going to remake the mould or even sculpt a new master model, it is being talked about but I suspect the final decision will be kept close to their chest until a release is imminent. But obviously if it is rereleased it will have 8ed rules."

Thank you so much, this means alot to me and you have officially made my morning by doing this, and specifically asking about the plague hulk.


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Quoted you here in OP (8th edition news/rumours)
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/724730.page

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 frozenwastes wrote:
I want a grand alliance type approach so I can mix all the Tzeentch stuff at once. Like Rubric marines, other non-Thoursand Suns Tzeentch allied marines, tzaangors, cultists, traitor guard, daemons, the whole deal. I want to run no duplicate units at all and have all the Tzeentch keyworded and any undivided stuff I think is cool.

Hopefully they do a daily post on their community site about keywords and building armies for different approaches to play.


Yeah I'm hoping they do something like this for chaos. They had this idea with daemonkin but I'm hoping they get rid of that book and just do a chaos grand alliance
   
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Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.

Painting my bikers. And dabbling in Khornate lore, I wonder if Daemonkin will carry over, and of course the fact Death Guard are going to be thier own faction makes me happier then a pig in gak.

Also pondering starting up a proper Daemon Force, other then occasional allies.

I've sold so many armies. :(
Aeldari 3kpts
Slaves to Darkness.3k
Word Bearers 2500k
Daemons of Chaos

 
   
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I am going to ask a question that might not go over well...

In AoS, does a mark do anything besides give you the keyword of the god it belongs to? Granted that keyword allows you to summon demons in if your a wizard. But, I don't actually see them doing anything.
   
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Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!

Honestly, the only thing I am really interested in seeing is what they will do with the named characters: what kind buffed statline will they get? What will their weapons do in 8th? Will they get any interesting unique rules like AoS have? I am especially excited to see what the Daemon Primarchs and Daemon Lords will look like now that they get the AoS monster treatment and the psychers among them can fire out powers like there's no tomorrow.

It'll be a good day to be a follower of the great four.

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 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
 
   
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Youn wrote:
I am going to ask a question that might not go over well...

In AoS, does a mark do anything besides give you the keyword of the god it belongs to? Granted that keyword allows you to summon demons in if your a wizard. But, I don't actually see them doing anything.


It generally lets your co-religionists confer buffs upon you. DPs get innate abilities and there's some God-specific wizard rules that are dependent upon the existence of an appropriate official model. All Chaos wizards know how to summon all Chaos daemons.

I'm not even aware of any God-specifical Icons, which would be a setback for those of us that have been building big units with a FNP banner or such.

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But there isn't a +1 toughness or +1 initiative or +1 str on charge type rules correct? I have a feeling that is going to bleed into 8th edition.

Which for one of my armies is actually annoying.

I own 27 Deathguard terminators, 30 plague bearers, 14 nurgling bases and a Great unclean one.
   
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The North

I'm finishing the painting of my entire Thousand Sons force in preparation. I skipped 7.5Ed. after the re-release a handful of months after I invested. I even went as far as to ignore the whole Wrath of Magnus / Traitor Legions out of paranoia that GW would invalidate them very soon after. Looks like my paranoia was well founded.

This being said, my paranoia seems to have run dry as I've been out of the loop. So starting from the baseline - I hope my Thousand Sons army units are all usable and balanced. If so, I'll consider playing again.

Thousand Sons: 3850pts / Space Marines Deathwatch 5000pts / Dark Eldar Webway Corsairs 2000pts / Scrapheap Challenged Orks 1500pts / Black Death 1500pts

Saga: (Vikings, Normans, Anglo Danes, Irish, Scots, Late Romans, Huns and Anglo Saxons), Lion Rampant, Ronin: (Bushi x2, Sohei), Frostgrave: (Enchanter, Thaumaturge, Illusionist)
 
   
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Youn wrote:
But there isn't a +1 toughness or +1 initiative or +1 str on charge type rules correct? I have a feeling that is going to bleed into 8th edition.

Which for one of my armies is actually annoying.

I own 27 Deathguard terminators, 30 plague bearers, 14 nurgling bases and a Great unclean one.

'
depends, it might enable them to make god specific unit choices a little more clear cut, avoiding the problems we saw in 7th where generic CSMs with a mark of khorne where better then Khrone bezerkers. that said we've been pretty clear that we like ways to diffrentiate our fluffy forces from one another so I can't imagine GW removing em too much

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I'm pressing ahead with building loads of infantry models that could be used in CSM, Havoc or Chosen units with a bunch of Marked icons, but I'm holding back on big characters until I know what they do and likewise avoiding making loads of obviously Marked infantry. I've recently added a box of Exalted Sorcerers to my bits box with a view to making a few Tzeentchian heroes, I'll be pretty miffed if they're only really useful to Tsons. Likewise all these Combi Plasma Terminators and Power Sword Champions I've made - I'm not happy that they're unplayable in Shadow War and hope that that game's inflexible 'your units can take what comes in their box' rules that really restrict kitbashing aren't a portent of 48K.

   
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 Rippy wrote:
Good day to my fellow pus filled, cocaine snorting, blood drinking and magic wielding members of the dark path!

I am just looking forward to my spiritual liege. No, not that hack Roboute, but of course Big M!
Mortarion in the corpse and pus himself!
Also I am looking forward to the new death guard, I never purchased Terminators for my force, but their rules are looking to be nice, and the new models beautiful!

Plus with DG getting early focus, there will be a campaign etc!


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Oh and another thing I want is rules for the Leviathan Siege Dreadnought for chaos in 40k. Perty pls Lord GW.


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Captyn_Bob wrote:
Bit early..

I am looking at my Lords on Juggernaughts and.. crossing my fingers.

I am feeling this with my Plague Hulk of Nurgle.

Same here though unfortunately FW have discontinued the Plague Hulk so I pray they will still update them for 8th edition
   
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A teaser of 8th Ed chaos effectiveness
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/07/faction-focus-chaos-space-marines/

No news on whether legions are still a thing, but bezerkers are supposed to be good. Maybe Blood for the blood God will be a common khorne rule to allow for daemonkin lists

DFTT 
   
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Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!

Captyn_Bob wrote:
A teaser of 8th Ed chaos effectiveness
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/07/faction-focus-chaos-space-marines/

No news on whether legions are still a thing, but bezerkers are supposed to be good. Maybe Blood for the blood God will be a common khorne rule to allow for daemonkin lists

So excited to see that my Bezerkers will be (in theory) a threat again, hopefully this won't be a big disappointment like the Bezerker formations were.

Feeling reservedly optimistic.

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
 
   
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 mrhappyface wrote:
Captyn_Bob wrote:
A teaser of 8th Ed chaos effectiveness
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/07/faction-focus-chaos-space-marines/

No news on whether legions are still a thing, but bezerkers are supposed to be good. Maybe Blood for the blood God will be a common khorne rule to allow for daemonkin lists

So excited to see that my Bezerkers will be (in theory) a threat again, hopefully this won't be a big disappointment like the Bezerker formations were.

Feeling reservedly optimistic.


Yeah as someone who is gonna start playing this edition, I'm excited cause berzerkers are some of my favorite chaos units
   
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Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!

Captyn_Bob wrote:
No news on whether legions are still a thing

From their Facebook:
[Warhammer 40,000] "Hey guys - the Traitor Legions will indeed be getting rules to distinguish them from each other. More news on what that looks like in the future."

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
 
   
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I mean, of course GW is gonna say "X unit is great!" on a preview. I have a feeling almost every unit will be serviceable at worst in 8Ed anyway.

I had just decided last night, too, to NOT go CSM (it was between CSM, Eldar, Nids, and DE. Eldar and Nids won out, w/ an Eldar to DE swap clause lol) in 8Ed But who truly knows what the future holds...

( Tzeentch does )

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 Dr. Cheesesteak wrote:
I mean, of course GW is gonna say "X unit is great!" on a preview. I have a feeling almost every unit will be serviceable at worst in 8Ed anyway.

I had just decided last night, too, to NOT go CSM (it was between CSM, Eldar, Nids, and DE. Eldar and Nids won out, w/ an Eldar to DE swap clause lol) in 8Ed But who truly knows what the future holds...

( Tzeentch does )


I'm always torn between elder and chaos when I'm deciding which army I'm finally gonna start. I like that both armies can be very colorful, but I feel like chaos has more diversity painting and also more diverse playstyle
   
 
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