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There was an extended version of the Lynch film that ran to 3 hours and was much better. It was made for TV distribution, though, so it had a 4:3 screen ratio. A widescreen version was put out on DVD eventually, but hasn't been on sale for at least a decade.

Channel 4 in the UK showed it in the 80s, and I kept a copy until my VHS player ate the tape :(
   
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 Thargrim wrote:
I got tickets to see the first 10 minutes/exclusive footage of the new movie tomorrow night including the new upcoming trailer. No phones allowed in, but I don't think I have to sign an NDA and can speak about it afterwards. I'm not even 100% sure i'll make it there, it's going to take hours to drive there. But I am going to try and make it. Despite having a pass they aren't guaranteeing a seat either.


That is an insane level of dedication. An hours long drive to maybe see ten minutes of footage.

 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
 Thargrim wrote:
I got tickets to see the first 10 minutes/exclusive footage of the new movie tomorrow night including the new upcoming trailer. No phones allowed in, but I don't think I have to sign an NDA and can speak about it afterwards. I'm not even 100% sure i'll make it there, it's going to take hours to drive there. But I am going to try and make it. Despite having a pass they aren't guaranteeing a seat either.


That is an insane level of dedication. An hours long drive to maybe see ten minutes of footage.


Its rumored to be more like 30 minutes including behind the scenes stuff. I'm in line right now and theres a bunch of people. Hour and a half before it even starts.


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Well, ya'll are in for a treat. See this new one in imax, trust me. Some things caught me by surprise a bit.

Spoiler:
the movie begins with an almost LOTR style narration from chani, showing fremen attacking harkonnen spice harvesters on arrakis. Not at all like the books opening, but it works. It's an exposition dump...but it was real clean and easy to digest. Bodes well for the movie's success IMO. There is some low key humor thrown in, but not anywhere near as cringey as the recent star wars movies. There was a scene where an imperial delegation including the reverand mother land on caladan to sign over arrakis to duke Leto. This scene was a standout for me. No full blown guild navigators, but instead I guess proto navigators. Imagine kind of opulent astronaut looking dudes (humanoid), with glass helmets and the helmet is full of the orange spice, kind of obscuring their features. They aren't transformed but are in the beginning stages of becoming a navigator.

Also, in a bold way the opening titles state the movie as Dune: part one. They're making sure to let the audience know that this is not meant to be a single movie. I think this might've been a good idea in the long run.

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New trailer.





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That trailer didn’t do much for me.

   
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Me likey. I look forward to the inevitable "Paul vs. Anakin" threads on Space Battles.

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I always thought what Dune needed was cgi helmets like Black Panther/Iron Man for the sweet face reveals.

Arrakis may be beautiful when the sun is going down but when it is up it will kill you and blind you. Still when it is on the horizon it is very nice.

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 Frazzled wrote:
Me likey. I look forward to the inevitable "Paul vs. Anakin" threads on Space Battles.


That takes me back.

Every thread will split into two factions: “Jedi Precog beats all” and “Canonically, Jedi are dumb-dumbs”.

   
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Looks pretty cool. Though in the last fight scene, both sides costumes looked incredibly similar.

Perhaps we’ll see that fixed in post?

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Yes I could not tell who from who on that.

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 Frazzled wrote:
Yes I could not tell who from who on that.


It is pretty easy really as one is wearing grey and the other is a light grey. Easy peazy.

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Trailer shows too much. Isn't this movie supposed to just show the first half of the book? They've shown all that in the trailer. Chalamet is an awful choice for Paul or any leadership role. He seriously needs to put on 10-15 pounds just to look healthy and he definitely doesn't look like he is water-fat as described in the book.

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Stop it. The book is 56 years old. There are no 'spoilers' when the material is past half a hundred.

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Personally, I was impressed by the latest trailer and at this point I am definitely planning on watching on an IMAX screen if available.

As for Timothée Chalamet, despite his bantam class appearance, after seeing his turn in Henry V, I am optimistic that he can have the type of presence that one would attribute to a prophetic character like the Kwisatz Haderach.

Given how long Dune has been around and the various visions that exist, both in picture and illustration, it’s reasonable to expect that not everyone is going to like the choices the current production team is making in bringing their vision of Dune to life.

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 Ahtman wrote:
I always thought what Dune needed was cgi helmets like Black Panther/Iron Man for the sweet face reveals.


That was the only miss in any of these trailers so far, for me. CGI just didn't look right.

I think I've watched all of the trailers for this movie, and The Green Knight like 20 times each.


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Yeah that last few seconds of the trailer was questionable CGI to me. I think that is a dream sequence of the jihad for sure, and probably a pretty brief scene. But his face looked odd in that helmet.

I'm not worried at all about Chalamet as Paul.

 
   
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 trexmeyer wrote:
Chalamet is an awful choice for Paul or any leadership role. He seriously needs to put on 10-15 pounds just to look healthy and he definitely doesn't look like he is water-fat as described in the book.


Like Zendaya, Timothee has been picked for the benefit of the teenage audience. Hollywood demands that seats be filled and all that jazz.

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 Thargrim wrote:
Yeah that last few seconds of the trailer was questionable CGI to me. I think that is a dream sequence of the jihad for sure, and probably a pretty brief scene. But his face looked odd in that helmet.

I'm not worried at all about Chalamet as Paul.


Yeah. At 25 years old, Chalamet has been nominated for an Academy Award, three BAFTA Film Awards, two Golden Globe Awards, four Screen Actors Guild Awards, and four Critics' Choice Movie Awards. He even looks just like how Herbert described Paul.

Somehow I trust in his performance and Denis Villeneuve's instincts over the weird proclivities of dorkdom, which tends to be *famously wrong* about casting decisions.



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 trexmeyer wrote:
Chalamet is an awful choice for Paul or any leadership role. He seriously needs to put on 10-15 pounds just to look healthy and he definitely doesn't look like he is water-fat as described in the book.


Like Zendaya, Timothee has been picked for the benefit of the teenage audience. Hollywood demands that seats be filled and all that jazz.


Zendaya's a terrific young actress who won an Emmy for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama Series for her performance in Euphoria on HBO. She was the youngest winner ever.

People need to branch out and watch things other than superhero movies and gak.

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Zendaya's a terrific young actress who won an Emmy for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama Series for her performance in Euphoria on HBO. She was the youngest winner ever.

People need to branch out and watch things other than superhero movies and gak.


What has superhero movies got to do with this or Dune?

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SamusDrake wrote:
 trexmeyer wrote:
Chalamet is an awful choice for Paul or any leadership role. He seriously needs to put on 10-15 pounds just to look healthy and he definitely doesn't look like he is water-fat as described in the book.


Like Zendaya, Timothee has been picked for the benefit of the teenage audience. Hollywood demands that seats be filled and all that jazz.


But the characters are supposed to be teenagers............Paul is 15 at the beginning of the book....

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But the characters are supposed to be teenagers............Paul is 15 at the beginning of the book....


My point is that Timothee has - at least in part - been selected for his very handsome looks, and that studios are willing to overlook minor details if it means selling more seats.

This isn't knocking Timothee nor Zendaya, but a reminder that Dune is ultimately a hollywood blockbuster - not an independent arthouse film.


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Just had a question on Dune novels. I watched some stuff on Dune from Quins Ideas on YouTube following on from some Song of Ice and Fire stuff. But I was a little confused.

I get that the author wants to sell the idea that charismatic leaders are dangerous and subvert the chosen one trope. People have been doing that since at least Napoleon so it’s fairly run of the mill and I can easily get that aspect of it. But does he actually advocate the idea of “human stagnancy” requiring the intervention of something like the Golden Path to “break a few eggs” to knock humanity out of its juvenile state? Or is the fact this “Great Enemy” never shows up meant to indicate that the characters advocating the Golden Path are ultimately ignorant and entirely mistaken, a bit like Melisandre in Ice n Fire and this isn’t a legitimate issue the author wants us to consider? Just there’s a lot of discussion on that point and I don’t see why it would be discussed so extensively if it’s just the authors satire on Stalinism. I assume there’s more to it than just Animal Farm in space and once that audible credit rolls in I might get the audiobook in advance of the movie but just wanted to clear that point up because I get really mixed messages on this series. Some people say that it’s a critique of “naive” sci fi like Star Trek and others say that it’s subverting authoritarianism and selling the idea of rugged individualism being the answer.

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To me it seemed to be selling rugged individualism, and the idea that comfortable existence is bad for humanity.

   
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There are a lot of elements floating in the background of Dune; over reliance on a single resource and how that concentrates economic and political power into a small elite (*cough* oil *cough*), humanity’s tendency to be lazy and self destructive unless driven by an immediate external threat/force and our tendency to blindly follow charismatic leaders regardless of whether that’s a good thing or not.

It’s basically the morning sermon from Life of Brian writ large (“You’re all individuals, you can all figure it out yourselves”…)

Part of the reason Dune has been such an enduring success is that it is a complex, layered book and doesn’t stick to simple, easy, tropes.

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“You’re all individuals


I'm not.

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 Ahtman wrote:
 Jadenim wrote:
“You’re all individuals


I'm not.


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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
That trailer didn’t do much for me.


Caused the same confusion the Justice League trailer did, I was busy considering Ms Coleman and the Momoa popped up and rushed into the wrong bit of my brain #neverconfused

Some unfinished cg aside am somewhat hopeful


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SamusDrake wrote:
 trexmeyer wrote:
Chalamet is an awful choice for Paul or any leadership role. He seriously needs to put on 10-15 pounds just to look healthy and he definitely doesn't look like he is water-fat as described in the book.


Like Zendaya, Timothee has been picked for the benefit of the teenage audience. Hollywood demands that seats be filled and all that jazz.


Well..both of them were supposed to be very young in the book. Both actors are actually a good bit older.

Zendaya showed serious acting chops in the Malcolm and Marie. I imagine she will be underutilized in this actually.
Timothee played Paul very well in Dune 1327...er Henry.

Batista as Rauban, and Skarsguard as the Baron, is inspired.

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 Frazzled wrote:

Well..both of them were supposed to be very young in the book. Both actors are actually a good bit older.

Zendaya showed serious acting chops in the Malcolm and Marie. I imagine she will be underutilized in this actually.
Timothee played Paul very well in Dune 1327...er Henry.

Batista as Rauban, and Skarsguard as the Baron, is inspired.


I've already explained this in a follow up post. Best we don't go round in circles.

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