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I’m not sure we understand your point. Both actors are attractive people, but most young actors are. Pretty faces are a dime a dozen in Hollywood. These two actors were chosen from among the pretty faces because they’re very good actors who fit the parts. I’m sure the filmmakers could have hired a pair of gorgeous unknowns with questionable acting chops and thereby saved themselves some cash if looks was the main criteria.

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I mean, they could have had some PAs rough Chalomet up a little, uneven that face a bit.

   
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 gorgon wrote:
I’m not sure we understand your point. Both actors are attractive people, but most young actors are. Pretty faces are a dime a dozen in Hollywood. These two actors were chosen from among the pretty faces because they’re very good actors who fit the parts. I’m sure the filmmakers could have hired a pair of gorgeous unknowns with questionable acting chops and thereby saved themselves some cash if looks was the main criteria.


Here is another example to illustrate my point; Jennifer Lawrence in the Hunger Games.

I've not read the book nor seen any of the films, but my friends that have complain that Jennifer doesn't look like a young girl from a very poor location. Apparently Katnis in the books has a thin, undernourished appeareance.

But Jen is a good actor with very good looks and is basically playing a young girl, and thats all the suits from Hollywood care about. If someone then pointed out "she doesn't fit the description in the book" then they will be ignored as they are happy with their chosen actor.

Basically, Hollywood doesn't just accept any pretty face as they are surrounded by them - they want THE face that beats the competition. The film makers - who just want to make a faithful adaptation of the book - know this and will get that face in order to secure funding.

If we still don't understand, then watch the beginning of King Kong( 1933 ). Carl Denham's frustation says it all...


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I mean, they could have had some PAs rough Chalomet up a little, uneven that face a bit.


Well its a tough business and one does have to pay their dues...




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The trailer actually got me a little bit excited. I hope this doesn't suck and, if it doesn't, that the second part actually gets made in a way (budget and production standard) that actually matches the first.
   
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The fact that they seem to be investing in marketing this far out from release does suggest that they think they have a winner on their hands?

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The fact that they seem to be investing in marketing this far out from release does suggest that they think they have a winner on their hands?


It could be the upcoming, post lockdown “we can actually go to the cinema? How novel!” Scramble for attention.

A lot of films were of course postponed, with a mere handful trialled (to unknown success) on streaming platforms.

If they’ve spent big, they’ve had to wait a long while to see any return on that investment. With a real rush of movies coming out (three more MCU this year alone, and six in the next twelve calendar months, which is crazy), now is the time to be raising your voice and waving your flag.

The no doubt manic release schedule could also help revitalise cinema going as a preference.

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I think they're hoping this is a film that gets people back to the theaters. I wouldn't be surprised if the HBO Max premiere gets pushed back to give the film a few dedicated weeks in the theaters first.

I have HBO Max, but I'm planning to see this on IMAX.

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With all the news of the Delta Variant’s rising numbers, I can’t see a theater only release right now being too successful. Seems like Box Office spiked a few weeks ago and now everyone is starting to feel like maybe they can wait to see movies at home again.

   
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It's a late October release. Plenty can change between now and then.


Edit: Things may get increasingly local/regional with this stuff. In my county, over 60% of the population has received at least one dose of vaccine, and the positive test rate is at 1.4%. There are plenty of other places around the country that aren't faring so well. Although people in those places may also be less inclined to be careful. If the environment becomes one of areas of low risk, and areas of high risk but little caution...I think it stands to reason that audiences will start returning.

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 gorgon wrote:
It's a late October release. Plenty can change between now and then.


Edit: Things may get increasingly local/regional with this stuff. In my county, over 60% of the population has received at least one dose of vaccine, and the positive test rate is at 1.4%. There are plenty of other places around the country that aren't faring so well. Although people in those places may also be less inclined to be careful. If the environment becomes one of areas of low risk, and areas of high risk but little caution...I think it stands to reason that audiences will start returning.


Vaccines don't seem to be working well against the new variant and lockdowns are being reimposed in areas with vaccination rates over 60% so I think it's a wash for now.

On topic, I don't know who criticized Zendaya, but it wasn't me. Not sure why people got a bee in their bonnet over that. Timothee still needs to eat something, he genuinely looks unwell.

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UK is primarily Delta variant just now, and things are being opened up and cases are coming down, so maybe you just need to get to higher vaccination completion to cut proper firebreaks through the population. Hope is out there!

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 Flinty wrote:
UK is primarily Delta variant just now, and things are being opened up and cases are coming down, so maybe you just need to get to higher vaccination completion to cut proper firebreaks through the population. Hope is out there!


I should note cases are going down, but that was just in advance of opening up fully. We've yet to have "2 open weeks" to really see what's going to happen. It might be the cases were falling due to the fact that the semi-lockdown meant it had exhausted easy targets who are now more mobile now that we are "unlocked". So we could get another spike.

The important things to note, in my view, are that the reduction is very sudden and sharp like the onset of a full lockdown without having had one; and that the number of people hospitalized is far lower than before even though we've had infection rates far higher than before. Both of those at least point to the vaccines giving a big help to the situation.

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On topic, I don't know who criticized Zendaya, but it wasn't me. Not sure why people got a bee in their bonnet over that. Timothee still needs to eat something, he genuinely looks unwell.


It was aimed at me( when I replied to your previous post ) even though I wasn't knocking her or Timothee's acting abilities. I was only sharing with you what the Hollywood suits care about at the end of the day( a dreamy looking couple they can market ), and yet others had somehow mistaken that for "Zendaya is a crap actress".

In a nutshell, don't expect too much from hollywood's casting choices as they will not let minor details get in the way( "minor" at least in their eyes, of course). For example, see my previous post where I give the example of Jennifer Lawrence in the role of Katnis.

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A fully masked cinema release would be cool and so thematic for this film.

That way, if you see anyone unmasked, you can exclaim "They waste the sietch's water."

I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.

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 chromedog wrote:
A fully masked cinema release would be cool and so thematic for this film.

That way, if you see anyone unmasked, you can exclaim "They waste the sietch's water."


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The reviews embargo has now been lifted and first reviews are coming in..

In the UK press, 5 stars from Empire, Telegraph, Independent, The Guardian
Quite a few 4 stars as well, I think hardest reviews from Variety and have seen a couple of 3-stars.

Dare I hope?

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I won't even read them. I hope to not hear anything about it until I see it, really.

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I hope that this will be the first film I see since Shazam assuming it's great.
   
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Reviews for the movie are shaping up pretty good so far. I still can't believe I have to wait until almost halloween to see it but europe gets it in like 2 weeks. Still going to see it in theaters though.

 
   
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Yeah, overall looking good, although there are certainly some outliers. In a number of those cases, it seems to be a window into the mind of the reviewer. I noted that Empire felt the director and writers handled the universe building aspect very well, while I saw a couple others that were more bewildered by it all.

I actually read one review that started off saying how she'd never read the book and ended with her proudly stating she never would. Reviewers like that remind me of what we used to say about film majors in college...that they're lit majors who couldn't hack it. You're allowed not to like the movie, and maybe it in fact isn't any good. But why some kind of personal kanly against the BOOK that you have to air publicly? What, would reading a book take you away from your thoughtful deconstructions of masterpieces like Peter Rabbit 2 and Thunder Force?

ANYWAY...from what I've read it seems like they've captured the themes of the book better than past film versions. I'm not sure how much money it can make in this environment however. Which puts the completion of the first book's story at risk. Kinda sucks.

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