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I remember back when Specialist Games was allowed to actually support their products with living rulebooks and the like, they made an experimental Necron force. Epic Necrons never got any minis, but they did get paper templates you could use to simulate them.

I can't remember exactly what they had, but I don't recall too many monstrous creatures in the list. I recall something that was like a monolith light (same weapons, no teleportation ability) of course the pylon, and a superweapon that was basically a small star contained in a necrodermis sheath that they don't so much fire as they do open the door and let the energies within spray out.

I believe you are refering to the Crypt Stalker.

Concerning info on it? That's all, I cannot recollect there ever being more.

Wow

JOHIRA wrote:I remember back when Specialist Games was allowed to actually support their products with living rulebooks and the like, they made an experimental Necron force. Epic Necrons never got any minis, but they did get paper templates you could use to simulate them.

I can't remember exactly what they had, but I don't recall too many monstrous creatures in the list. I recall something that was like a monolith light (same weapons, no teleportation ability) of course the pylon, and a superweapon that was basically a small star contained in a necrodermis sheath that they don't so much fire as they do open the door and let the energies within spray out.

The light Monolith you're refering to is called the Obolesk I think. The small star was either the Sepulchar or the ...Star Cannon I think it may have been called. Either or, both were incredibly powerful versions of the Particle Whip.

Edit: Large Particle Whip was the Lightning Arc. And the Star Pulse Generator was the other name.

Just wondering what would be better necrons or KCSM

ZhufortheImpaler wrote:Just wondering what would be better necrons or KCSM

KCSM? like only Khorne?

I don't think it matters really what codex you're talking about though, all are better then Necrons in game currently.

Azure wrote:

ZhufortheImpaler wrote:Just wondering what would be better necrons or KCSM

KCSM? like only Khorne?

I don't think it matters really what codex you're talking about though, all are better then Necrons in game currently.

Yep, I meant khorne. Well I was kinda talking about when the new books come out for each... Just guessing the future I mean

ZhufortheImpaler wrote:

Azure wrote:

ZhufortheImpaler wrote:Just wondering what would be better necrons or KCSM

KCSM? like only Khorne?

I don't think it matters really what codex you're talking about though, all are better then Necrons in game currently.

Yep, I meant khorne. Well I was kinda talking about when the new books come out for each... Just guessing the future I mean

Ah, for the future then it seems like Necrons will be on top again, since each new codex has gotten better and better. That and Necrons will be 5th, CSM will be 4th. Edition.

Azure wrote:

JOHIRA wrote:I remember back when Specialist Games was allowed to actually support their products with living rulebooks and the like, they made an experimental Necron force. Epic Necrons never got any minis, but they did get paper templates you could use to simulate them.

I can't remember exactly what they had, but I don't recall too many monstrous creatures in the list. I recall something that was like a monolith light (same weapons, no teleportation ability) of course the pylon, and a superweapon that was basically a small star contained in a necrodermis sheath that they don't so much fire as they do open the door and let the energies within spray out.

The light Monolith you're refering to is called the Obolesk I think. The small star was either the Sepulchar or the ...Star Cannon I think it may have been called. Either or, both were incredibly powerful versions of the Particle Whip.

Edit: Large Particle Whip was the Lightning Arc. And the Star Pulse Generator was the other name.

no it's called the Aeonic Orb but you are right about the small tith's name.... crons actually have alot of titan based thing if you can find the old epic rules

Sounds like we have a lot of potential for new Toys in the codex.

I can't wait, the sooner we get, we hopefully get some more rumors to fuel the fire.

I just hope and pray that the new additions are given due time and care, unlike many of the new Tyranid choices, which felt rushed and fairly half done (the 'pyrovore' and 'venomthrope' for example and the still missing models for Tyrannofex and Tervigon).

The Necrons could be very well executed if good creative fluff and nice sculpts are done, if not, then they will suffer a relaunch like the half hearted Tyranid one instead of the success of the Dark Eldar.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I just hope and pray that the new additions are given due time and care, unlike many of the new Tyranid choices, which felt rushed and fairly half done (the 'pyrovore' and 'venomthrope' for example and the still missing models for Tyrannofex and Tervigon).

The Necrons could be very well executed if good creative fluff and nice sculpts are done, if not, then they will suffer a relaunch like the half hearted Tyranid one instead of the success of the Dark Eldar.

Matt Ward wrote it, nuff said

Kroothawk wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I just hope and pray that the new additions are given due time and care, unlike many of the new Tyranid choices, which felt rushed and fairly half done (the 'pyrovore' and 'venomthrope' for example and the still missing models for Tyrannofex and Tervigon).

The Necrons could be very well executed if good creative fluff and nice sculpts are done, if not, then they will suffer a relaunch like the half hearted Tyranid one instead of the success of the Dark Eldar.

Matt Ward wrote it, nuff said

Please just quit playing then if you hate Matt Ward so much. This is an open invitation to all, if you people hate 40k because Matt Ward is a main developer then just quit. He's here he's had an effect on the game (positive and negative). That cannot be undone, get over it.

I like Star Wars.

I dislike the addition of Gungans from Phantom Menace.

Therefore, I should discontinue liking Star Wars?


If people don't like something it's our damn right to complain about it..

..just as its your right to make dumb statements inviting everyone disliking Tyranids or the new GK's to start quitting a game that isn't 100% controlled by Matt Ward.

And honestly, what sort of ego must you have to think you've got the clout to "invite" anyone who doesn't like something to quit a game?

And to make a blanket statement like that over the internet serves what purpose?

You either truly expect someone to quit because you told them to or you expect them to stop disliking something or at the very least you expect them to quit voicing their opinions because you dislike hearing their concerns..

Either way it's pretty lame.

I would like people to just stay on topic and quit hijacking every other thread to bitch about Matt Ward, there are dedicated threads for that.

I think what riling everyone up is that we're specifically here for news on the new Necron Codex, and with the release of the new stuff for the GK's people fear that a similar fate awaits our own beloved silver armies. Regardless though, I admit to hijacking the thread abit, I've heard no new rumors or stories concerning Necrons.

Fingers crossed that we get an awesome model like the Dreadknight.

Will disagree on the look of the Dreadknight but totally agree on some cool new models. Though, I'm hoping we get some almost building stuff, similar to the Monolith. Not so much large vehicles or walkers but rather small castles or fortresses that can move, albiet slowly.

Personally I love the Dreadknight model. But more impressive is it's size. And this Necromancer giant necron walker rumor sounds just like a Dreadknight's size.

yakface wrote:

Tony the guardsman wrote:FNP is awesome...just awesome...
No more of those stupid WBB rules!

Y'know, I used to be onboard with that concept, but then they went and gave Feel No Pain to Deathguard, Orks (Nobs w/Dok), Space Marines (Apothecary), Tyranids (through Catalyst), Blood Angels (Blood Chalice) and then the whole Dark Eldar army (Power From Pain) and now it almost seems like every army has Feel No Pain so I'm kind of dreading having another whole army walking around with Feel No Pain.

...excerpted...

This is why I actually stopped playing 40k altogether.
The rules were already 10x simpler than WHFB, now they're just running around like a kid with a marker giving out FNP to everything and their granny.

The game has come down to who's got a better armor save and who can bring more guns with low AP... very sad too because the game has such potential to be a game with real depth.... yeah right.

Right because the game wasn't like that in 3rd or 4th edition.

I know it's off topic, but whatever edition of 40k brought about the idea of Overwatch can go to hell.

NecronLord3 wrote:I would like people to just stay on topic and quit hijacking every other thread to bitch about Matt Ward, there are dedicated threads for that.

The author Mat Ward of the Necron Codex IS part of the topic. And if someone says that the handling of Necron background needs subtlety, it is fair to say that Mat Ward has proven not to be subtle when writing background, see GK and SM Codex which have rather juvenile super-glorification of the featured armies.

NecronLord3 wrote:Fingers crossed that we get an awesome model like the Dreadknight.

Not sure if serious...

So far as Mat Ward goes, I will enjoy having the stupidly powerful rules that the BA got. Maybe not the lore so much, though, it was very... simplified. That seems to the a recurring theme over the last year, really.

I love how barely anyone plays Necrons right now, and the ones that do will complain having to play new armies. And when then new Codex drops everyone will jump on them like they always do. Just seems funny to me.

NecronLord3 wrote:I would like people to just stay on topic and quit hijacking every other thread to bitch about Matt Ward, there are dedicated threads for that.

If M. Night Ward is writing the Necron codex, then discussing M Night Ward's codex writing ability (or lack thereof) is on topic as it pertains to the quality (or lack thereof) of the forthcoming codex.

And if his Necron Codex is as "good" as his Grey Knight codex, then I think we will start seeing Gav Thorpe "Miss Me Yet?" posters.

Mat Ward has shown a consistent ability to make fun and balanced Codices. His fluff can be a little goofy at times, but this is the game where space monks in power armor use chainsaw swords to fight psychic chavs made out of sentient fungus.

[Mod Edit - Rule #1, it is a rather important rule here.]

A few points.

1) 40K is better than it's ever been in terms of balance. To complain about codex creep, etc., NOW just shows you weren't trying back THEN.

2) Necron players better come to grips with the idea that their armies will need significant overhauls. They're going to aim the new codex at people who don't play Necrons, because a) that's where the money is, and b) they figure existing Necron players will go along with whatever and upgrade anyway. I've been painting Tyranids for about a year after the new codex hit...and I even had an extensive pre-Nidzilla collection.

3) Regarding #2, it's essentially a subscription-based hobby, and you need to come to grips with that if you're planning to stay in it.

4) Mat Ward isn't my fave designer, but his 40K efforts really aren't bad. I mean seriously, could it be worse than the last Necron codex? The one with fluff that prattled on and on about the C'tan and how they're responsible for all the horrors of the universe up to and including skunky beer, yet barely addressed the Necrons themselves? The one that back THEN was extremely limited in terms of options and builds? The one that borrowed themes from about 10 sources but never fully integrated them into a strong concept in fluff OR on the tabletop?

I'm sure some aren't going to give Mat a fair shake with this one, but they should.

ChiliPowderKeg wrote:No WBB?

I no longer have to deal with stupid, stupid, re-rollable AP3 Insta-Death avoiding nonsence!

Sorry but if necrons stay with similar builds, expect fnp against everything ( res orb nulls all instant death and probably will in the next codex)