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Pilau Rice wrote:

Revenent Reiko wrote:
Its an interesting fanfic theory, but IMO it doesnt hold water.

It's not just the Necrons that they are trying to get rid of though.

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And anyway, like I said, it's fanfic and I was just answering the question from your post.

Nah i got that, just wanted to put my opinion across as well, i appreciate being told where it came from

Revenent Reiko wrote:

Pilau Rice wrote:It's not just the Necrons that they are trying to get rid of though.

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Shall we say they weren't happy with the way Eldar and the Krorks turned out after they left.

Revenent Reiko wrote:
Nah i got that, just wanted to put my opinion across as well, i appreciate being told where it came from

Welcome

Pilau Rice wrote:

Revenent Reiko wrote:

Pilau Rice wrote:It's not just the Necrons that they are trying to get rid of though.

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Shall we say they weren't happy with the way Eldar and the Krorks turned out after they left.

O Right, yeah, sorry, thought you were going somewhere else with that

im an ork player, and i say "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD"
khorne will kill everything

Ooh, difficult, but I vote either Ynnead or Eldrad Ulthran. Fact is, I don't care how big your giant sword (definiteky not a phallic reference) is, because you will never get to use it. Instead a series of lightning raids will cause you to give up on the Eldar and go fight a massive war on Armageddon while Eldrad laughs at you (from a safe distance).

Then there's Ynnead, and it's hard to argue against a god who will (at least the Eldar say so):
Destroy the chaos gods
Cause every star in the galaxy to supernova
Kill every living thing in the galaxy
Recreate the Eldar in his image (?)

So tell me, did the Emperor do that? He kicked a C'tan (so has Eldrad), and is possibly the least successful father EVER.

TEMPERUS MAXIMUS wrote:Ooh, difficult, but I vote either Ynnead or Eldrad Ulthran. Fact is, I don't care how big your giant sword (definiteky not a phallic reference) is, because you will never get to use it. Instead a series of lightning raids will cause you to give up on the Eldar and go fight a massive war on Armageddon while Eldrad laughs at you (from a safe distance).

Then there's Ynnead, and it's hard to argue against a god who will (at least the Eldar say so):
Destroy the chaos gods
Cause every star in the galaxy to supernova
Kill every living thing in the galaxy
Recreate the Eldar in his image (?)

So tell me, did the Emperor do that? He kicked a C'tan (so has Eldrad), and is possibly the least successful father EVER.

Did you miss the part where Eldrad died? Died as in not laughing at anyone. I haven't heard anything about Eldrad beating a C'tan before, what's your source on that one? While I'm at it, Ynnead is only supposed to wipe out Slaanesh, the rest is completely male bovine droppings.

I voted malal. I think pure nihilism is the only true path to power.

However cegorach is a very powerful individual in his own right I believe.

Chuck norris has it in for you who didn't vote for him! ;D But where is the laughing god? he just laughs at stuff, and owns the biggest circus in the galaxy! Admit it, even chaos must be a little scared of clowns! ;L

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

TEMPERUS MAXIMUS wrote:Ooh, difficult, but I vote either Ynnead or Eldrad Ulthran. Fact is, I don't care how big your giant sword (definiteky not a phallic reference) is, because you will never get to use it. Instead a series of lightning raids will cause you to give up on the Eldar and go fight a massive war on Armageddon while Eldrad laughs at you (from a safe distance).

Then there's Ynnead, and it's hard to argue against a god who will (at least the Eldar say so):
Destroy the chaos gods
Cause every star in the galaxy to supernova
Kill every living thing in the galaxy
Recreate the Eldar in his image (?)

So tell me, did the Emperor do that? He kicked a C'tan (so has Eldrad), and is possibly the least successful father EVER.

Did you miss the part where Eldrad died? Died as in not laughing at anyone. I haven't heard anything about Eldrad beating a C'tan before, what's your source on that one? While I'm at it, Ynnead is only supposed to wipe out Slaanesh, the rest is completely male bovine droppings.

Agreed Walrus. What is this tripe?

Sledgio wrote:Chuck norris has it in for you who didn't vote for him! ;D But where is the laughing god? he just laughs at stuff, and owns the biggest circus in the galaxy! Admit it, even chaos must be a little scared of clowns! ;L

The Laughing God.... Cegorach you mean
EDIT: NM. i could have sworn that there was a Cegorach option

InventionThirteen wrote:I voted malal. I think pure nihilism is the only true path to power.

However cegorach is a very powerful individual in his own right I believe.

I'm so glad to see all this Malal loving Keep it up fellas!

Shouldn't Cegorach be a possibility?
I mean he might not have the direct might of Kaela Mensha Khaine, but he's badass and is virtually untouchable. He plays his tricks on the Chaos Gods which means the guy is messing with Tzeentch, that's gotta be a sign of pure badassness.

He runs away. That's not power. Had Slaanesh not been occupied with Khain, Cegorach would be dead.

And on the Ynnead thing, there is no guarantee that Ynnead will beat Slaanesh. Their battle will give more power to Khorne, so there's no way that Ynnead will kill him. As for killing everything in the Galaxy, there's a lot of people trying to do that already.

Actually, Ynnead would be part of the Rhana Dandra which is literally the death of everything, including the Eldar. So yeah, if Ynnead will only kill Slaanesh, then that's because everything other than Slaanesh will be dead at that moment. Assuming that the Rhana Dandra will actually happen.

And by making every star supernova, you give birth to just that many more C'tan. lovely.

King Pariah wrote:And by making every star supernova, you give birth to just that many more C'tan. lovely.

No you dont.
They feed on Stars, and are born of stars but they dont just pop out of them when they explode.In Fact:

Lexicanum wrote:The C'tan (Eldar Yngir) are said to be the oldest beings in existence. It is said that they were created at the very beginning of the universe, spawned from swirling gases and enormous amounts of energy, and as such are etheric creatures by nature1. In their natural form they are vast beings and spread themselves over the surface of a star, sucking at its energy to feed itself.

Revenent Reiko wrote:

King Pariah wrote:And by making every star supernova, you give birth to just that many more C'tan. lovely.

No you dont.
They feed on Stars, and are born of stars but they dont just pop out of them when they explode.In Fact:

Lexicanum wrote:The C'tan (Eldar Yngir) are said to be the oldest beings in existence. It is said that they were created at the very beginning of the universe, spawned from swirling gases and enormous amounts of energy, and as such are etheric creatures by nature1. In their natural form they are vast beings and spread themselves over the surface of a star, sucking at its energy to feed itself.

It's actually a speculation of mine that since the big bang pretty much gave birth to the C'tan, then any similar event would also in turn spawn more C'tan.

King Pariah wrote:

Revenent Reiko wrote:

King Pariah wrote:And by making every star supernova, you give birth to just that many more C'tan. lovely.

No you dont.
They feed on Stars, and are born of stars but they dont just pop out of them when they explode.In Fact:

Lexicanum wrote:The C'tan (Eldar Yngir) are said to be the oldest beings in existence. It is said that they were created at the very beginning of the universe, spawned from swirling gases and enormous amounts of energy, and as such are etheric creatures by nature1. In their natural form they are vast beings and spread themselves over the surface of a star, sucking at its energy to feed itself.

It's actually a speculation of mine that since the big bang pretty much gave birth to the C'tan, then any similar event would also in turn spawn more C'tan.

Well say that then, rather than make an expansive statement (btw,i cant put the tone of this across - damn internet! - but i dont mean this accusingly, more helpful )

Wooly wrote:Actually, Ynnead would be part of the Rhana Dandra which is literally the death of everything, including the Eldar. So yeah, if Ynnead will only kill Slaanesh, then that's because everything other than Slaanesh will be dead at that moment. Assuming that the Rhana Dandra will actually happen.

Can I just ask where the fluff comes from to back this up?

The Eldar Codex only says that many Eldar seers (include Eldrad, so it is probably true) believe that Ynnead will be spawned when all the Eldar are dead in the Rhana Dandra. The Eldar codex even states that it is not known which other races are involved, so it could result in the death of anything, everything or nothing, but either way there will be no Eldar life at this point. And if this is the death of everything, surely everything will be dead, so Ynnead will not need to kill Slaanesh given the fact that she/he is already dead. Therefore Chaos will not be destroyed in the Rhana Dandra, whether it is a 'star spanning apocalypse' or not.

Either way, I voted Ynnead as well, simply because we do not know how much power he/she has. Becuase of this, there isn't really a point arguing for or against Ynnead, as we don't actually know that much about him/her.

Also (for everyone that is talking about stars going supernova), 'star spanning apocalypse' does not mean that loads of stars will explode, it means that the Rhana Dandra will cover a large geographical area of the galaxy.

If I have totally bodged this or anyone has any fluff that contradicts any of this I would be very happy to read it / listen to you.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rhana_Dandra
And
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ynnead

Doesn't the Codex say that Rhana Dandra is basically the end of the world (at least both Chaos and Eldar meet their end).

It's Khorne. All the fighting just makes him more powerful.

Not all the fighting. Slaanesh can draw as much from the battlefield as Khorne.

Omegus wrote:Not all the fighting. Slaanesh can draw as much from the battlefield as Khorne.

Not really. Slaanesh can draw from torture and pain on the battlefield (wounds) but there will likely be more blood than anything...especially since you don't have time to feel pain when hit by a scout titan's plasma blastgun.

Revenent Reiko wrote:http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rhana_Dandra
And
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ynnead

Ok, thanks. Forgot to check Lexicanum and so missed the 'destruction of the materium and immaterium' and what-not.

Wooly wrote:Doesn't the Codex say that Rhana Dandra is basically the end of the world (at least both Chaos and Eldar meet their end).

I'm not sure if the current Codex actually says that (can't really check as I have temporarily misplaced my Codex), but if the Lexicanum quote is right then I think that it is safe to say that that is correct.

Rampage wrote:

Revenent Reiko wrote:http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rhana_Dandra
And
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ynnead

Ok, thanks. Forgot to check Lexicanum and so missed the 'destruction of the materium and immaterium' and what-not.

No worries, sorry i didnt explain properly, i normally would have quoted it properly but i was feeling particularly lazy yesterday

Revenent Reiko wrote:

Rampage wrote:

Revenent Reiko wrote:http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rhana_Dandra
And
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ynnead

Ok, thanks. Forgot to check Lexicanum and so missed the 'destruction of the materium and immaterium' and what-not.

No worries, sorry i didnt explain properly, i normally would have quoted it properly but i was feeling particularly lazy yesterday

I know the feeling

It's oviously Horus!

Hoping that was a joke...

G00fySmiley wrote:some orks can read, it is in the ork codex under komandoes "some can even read" so they have some book smarts.. even if is is just see spot run

but yea orks are... orks they are plenty intelligent just on the subject of war. and how to make war/ get to more war, just means they are focused

I can build a house from the ground up, pull the permits and get it all done which some might say takes intelligence or some might say takes is learning the right subjects... but i can't tailror my own cloths... does that mean I'm dumb because i can't sew or does it mean I would rather put my energy in a different subject?

Now this is a great way to put Ork intelligence into perspective.

My pick is Khorne ´cause more you fight, more powerful he is.

Another choise would be Ynnead, but I´m not sure about he´s/she´s powers