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I'm not crazy though. That rumour has Etheral's unlocking FW as troops, and Shapers doing the same for Kroot, (I guess you have to take an HQ anyway, but still) It seems crazy the Tau wouldn't have troops. Unless its just they get a boost if they have the HQ selection for the natural troop choices, and the Other ones move from Elite or wherever and become troops.

Maybe its a 6th ed thing, and all will be revealed.

Being forced to take Ethereals to be able to take Fire Warriors is just plain stupid. There's not even any real "fluff" reason for it.

If anything, it should be you have to take Fire Warriors to take Ethereals since Ethereals are forced to accompany Fire Warrior forces to "focus the Greater Good" or some such nonsense.

Uhhh.... Ubersuit? I hope that's not what its actuall name will be!

Remulus wrote: Uhhh.... Ubersuit? I hope that's not what its actuall name will be!

sounds as likely as the rumoured "necromancer" that the necrons where supposedly getting

Sasori wrote:

The Tau codex belongs to Cruddace, lets get that fact straight. That is all I am going to say on that issue

I Shall weep for all Tau players. Past, present and Future.

After the failure that was Codex: Tyranids, yeah, I'm more than a little terrified now. And "Must take an ethereal to use fire warriors" sounds like a bs, arbitrary restriction to me, so there may very well be truth in it...

You know, Mat Ward needs no real explanation, but at least you could be reasonably confident that your army would have decent rules in the end. Phil Kelly is sometimes hit or miss. Cruddace, though...they seriously could have picked anyone else and I think I'd have been a lot happier.

Considering this Tau rumor thread actually succeeded in reviving my interest in Tau partially, I'd hate for it to be all for nothing. Hopefully GW doesn't drop the ball here, because they're already on thin ice and Tau could make or break it for me.

I can see a special character that unlocks suits as troops and I'm with those that say that the ethereal will probably unlock BS4 firewarriors as troops or something.

tarnish wrote:

Remulus wrote: Uhhh.... Ubersuit? I hope that's not what its actuall name will be!

sounds as likely as the rumoured "necromancer" that the necrons where supposedly getting

You could say that the Stalker is what the Necromancer was rumoured to be, based on the rules that it was supposed to have.

Anyway that's a little OT <.< lol

Well that was a big lump of rumers. I can't see why a codex would have NO troops stock. It's way more likely that the HQ give specific bonus's to 'their" troops. The big suit being HS, not a surprise really. Its not likey ou can make big suits in such large numbers so they would be restricted to being HS. You could have a really cheesey battle with 3 Dreadknights vs 3 Ubersuits

actually if you want to get real fluffy, tau have no troops and no heavy support they just have elite and fast attack.

I cant really see any of the troops being "fast attack" or "Elites".

Fire warriors in elite, kroot fast attack. Easy. Point is tau don't hold ground and they don't do stationary combat. Hell even their main battle tank is really classified as a gunship.

Ok, I admit defeat.

Bylak wrote:

tarnish wrote:

Remulus wrote: Uhhh.... Ubersuit? I hope that's not what its actuall name will be!

sounds as likely as the rumoured "necromancer" that the necrons where supposedly getting

You could say that the Stalker is what the Necromancer was rumoured to be, based on the rules that it was supposed to have.

Anyway that's a little OT <.< lol

not arguing the function, but the name

These Morphic weapons on suit seem to be a farily solid rumor. But if they give us morphic weapons they would have to take away the MT. It would just be OP at that point.
I dont like the morphic weapon concept.

There was a clarification on the warseer compiled news summary that the "morphic" part of the weapon refered to different ammunitions

Deathrains running alternating ammo could get pretty scary pretty quick. All that range, and all that utility. I'd be happy.

Really now? That's sounds safer than obliterator weapons.
Mind linking to the page?

any news on MP I always thought they were really under powered for what they were.

Mal the Wolf wrote:These Morphic weapons on suit seem to be a farily solid rumor. But if they give us morphic weapons they would have to take away the MT. It would just be OP at that point.
I dont like the morphic weapon concept.

I don't know about that. The "Morphic Weapons" on suits sounds familiar...

Like XV-9 "Hazard" Suit familiar.

agnosto wrote:I can see a special character that unlocks suits as troops.

Farsight perhaps.

TBD wrote:

agnosto wrote:I can see a special character that unlocks suits as troops.

Farsight perhaps.

Why Farsight?

Might as well just have it be the same as bike-mounted Marine characters. If the HQ is in a suit, suits can be taken as Troops.

Kanluwen wrote:

TBD wrote:

agnosto wrote:I can see a special character that unlocks suits as troops.

Farsight perhaps.

Why Farsight?

Might as well just have it be the same as bike-mounted Marine characters. If the HQ is in a suit, suits can be taken as Troops.

Yes, might as well be a flying alien clown in a Santa suit that unlocks them, but he said special character, so why not Farsight, who knows?

Obviously none of us, hence perhaps

I don't believe the rumors. Jared offers us no really new information, just a rehashing of what weve already heard but phrased differently/more eloquently so as to make it seem more detailed and thus more believable.


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I don't believe the rumors. Jared offers us no really new information, just a rehashing of what weve already heard but phrased differently/more eloquently so as to make it seem more detailed and thus more believable.

wyomingfox wrote:There was a clarification on the warseer compiled news summary that the "morphic" part of the weapon refered to different ammunitions

This kinda makes sense, or they are just referring to the xv9 weapons (although only the pulse rifle has various submunitions). I dont really see how the existing weapons can have different munitions (except for maybe the missile pods), but perhaps it means different fire modes or something.

patients is a vitue

Patience is only a virtue (I think that's what you meant) if you're a saint, which I've never claimed to be.

chaos0xomega wrote:I don't believe the rumors. Jared offers us no really new information, just a rehashing of what weve already heard but phrased differently/more eloquently so as to make it seem more detailed and thus more believable.

Not commenting on the validity of Jared's rumors, but looking at the dates for his Chaos Rumors and comparing it to Warseer's rumor mongers, Jared was the first to mention that Mat Ward (with help of others) was writing the Chaos Codex...by over 3 months. He was also the first to state that the "Chaos Renegades codex" would be LATD focused by two weeks. He was also the first to mention "Honsou" would be in the Dex.

For Tau rumors, he is the first, and only person that I am aware of who has stated Crudace was writing Tau. Only person I am aware of that has stated a new type of missle option for the Skyray.

For Black Templars, he was the first to mention that Kelly (April) might be writing them, though he said later (November) said that BT may have been highjacked by Cruddace. He was the first to mention Zeal might be changing to Rage, the first to mention a EC SC, and a SC on a bike.


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acekevin8412 wrote:Really now? That's sounds safer than obliterator weapons.
Mind linking to the page?

FYI it didn't come from Ghost (the guy who first brought up morphic weapons). It was a rumor from Calmsword, a Warseer member, who isn't known for posting rumors. Anyways, I saw it on the summary page in green letters: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324092

But Calmsword actual post can be found here (post #339): http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5934807#post5934807

Spent 1 minute over there (warsear) incase they have something we don't yet and all I read was

Crudace?! #%^#!!
Nids suck! now Tau will die.

yes exsadurated but honastly i've never won a game vs nids, can someone tell me whats wrong with them that everybody insantly goes emo over them?

The are a lot of choice competing for the Elite slots. Warriors were given the nerf bat. Mainly too many elite choices.

Ledabot wrote:Spent 1 minute over there (warsear) incase they have something we don't yet and all I read was

Crudace?! #%^#!!
Nids suck! now Tau will die.

yes exsadurated but honastly i've never won a game vs nids, can someone tell me whats wrong with them that everybody insantly goes emo over them?

I've almost never lost with my Tyranids.

I can definetely remember that rumour about FW being unlockable troops for etherials and the shaper thing having been said a LONG time ago. I' am not too fussed about it.

How long does it normally take after an army is released to start getting credible rumours. It all seems very up in the air at the minute whilst before everyone knew it was going to be Necrons and before that Dark Eldar; well, that was where most of the noise was at any rate. Everybody seems to be claiming it could be either Chaos, Templars, Tau and possibly Dark Angels. Personally my gut feeling is that with the whole marine, non marine cycle that they've been doing Tau are probably ruled out if the next edition is for summer next year.