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 Galas wrote:

 warboss wrote:

BrookM wrote:I'll wait for a better picture of Valdor before weighing myself.

You're beautiful BrookM no matter what the scale says! Don't let Forgeworld's svelt models fat shame you.

gorgon wrote:I'm gonna happily swim upstream here and say that Valdor is a spectacular sculpt. Sure, he's blinged out...because he's the leader of a very blinged out faction. *shrug* I think some opinions will shift once we see some other painting approaches to the model.

It's an opinion just like the negative ones. If you like him, go wild and buy/assemble/paint him to your heart's content. I suspect he'll be a polarizing model much like the Blanche style illustrations he's clearly influenced by (and I also suspect the opnion lines will be drawn similarly to those on his art style).

Do you have a link to that art, please? The only Constantin Valdor art I know are this two:

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I don’t think they meant a specific Blanche Valdor piece, just Blance in general.

 Crimson wrote:

 Galas wrote:

Do you have a link to that art, please? The only Constantin Valdor art I know are this two:

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Both of those look uper generic. As someone pointed out, you can pretty much assemble guy looking like that from the Custodes plastic kit.

Yeah, thats why I said that the proper Valdor model is the one you can make from the Custodes Guardian box.
And I love blinged models. I really like Trajan and his giant feathers. But this Valdor model, I don't know. Probably its from the image. The most offputing thing to me, is that the head appear to have the shape of an egg, but probably thats because of the lighting of the picture.

 Galas wrote:

 warboss wrote:

BrookM wrote:I'll wait for a better picture of Valdor before weighing myself.

You're beautiful BrookM no matter what the scale says! Don't let Forgeworld's svelt models fat shame you.

gorgon wrote:I'm gonna happily swim upstream here and say that Valdor is a spectacular sculpt. Sure, he's blinged out...because he's the leader of a very blinged out faction. *shrug* I think some opinions will shift once we see some other painting approaches to the model.

It's an opinion just like the negative ones. If you like him, go wild and buy/assemble/paint him to your heart's content. I suspect he'll be a polarizing model much like the Blanche style illustrations he's clearly influenced by (and I also suspect the opnion lines will be drawn similarly to those on his art style).

Do you have a link to that art, please? The only Constantin Valdor art I know are this two:

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There is this one, from Inferno :

 Galas wrote:


Do you have a link to that art, please? The only Constantin Valdor art I know are this two:

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I was referring to the general art style and not a specific Valdor pic by Blanche. Take for instance the oversized feathered wing on his shoulder; it's typical Blanche style art embellishment made phsyical.



If you like that style then that fig is for you. If you don't (like me) then it's not. Jes Goodwin has always for me exemplified a better mix of the over the top 80's punk and gritty realism that characterizes classic 40k. YMMV.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/208658.page

 Crimson wrote:

 Galas wrote:

Do you have a link to that art, please? The only Constantin Valdor art I know are this two:

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Both of those look uper generic. As someone pointed out, you can pretty much assemble guy looking like that from the Custodes plastic kit.

Their Custodes. Every single one of them is super special. Their the sort of army that has a leader because someone needs to be in charge but it could be anyone and it wouldn't matter who.
They don't need a super bling dude to be their leader.

John fething Blanche a blight on 40k and now on 30k.

SeanDrake wrote:
John fething Blanche a blight on 40k and now on 30k.

It’s nothing to do with Blanche. He didn’t design or sculpt the model.

 warboss wrote:

gorgon wrote:I'm gonna happily swim upstream here and say that Valdor is a spectacular sculpt. Sure, he's blinged out...because he's the leader of a very blinged out faction. *shrug* I think some opinions will shift once we see some other painting approaches to the model.

It's an opinion just like the negative ones. If you like him, go wild and buy/assemble/paint him to your heart's content. I suspect he'll be a polarizing model much like the Blanche style illustrations he's clearly influenced by (and I also suspect the opnion lines will be drawn similarly to those on his art style).

What's with the sprinkling of salt?

Yep, gonna have to buy that Valdor. Simply amazing. Wonder how long it will be before he and the special spears get up on the website.

 gorgon wrote:

What's with the sprinkling of salt?

??? I didn't use any orkmoticons.

SeanDrake wrote:
John fething Blanche a blight on 40k and now on 30k.

Without John Blanche to visualise concepts, you don't have a 40k, a 30k, a Mordheim, etc...

Good, I'm glad they did Valdor Justice.

More things need bling like that, I hate it when they make things too futuristic. It's nice to see lots of embellishment.

Blanche may lack technical skill, but he makes up for it with style. I'm glad they still use him as a reference.

Keep realism out of my Warhammer!

 Dysartes wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:
John fething Blanche a blight on 40k and now on 30k.

Without John Blanche to visualise concepts, you don't have a 40k, a 30k, a Mordheim, etc...

Lets not rest merit to Jess Goodwinn and many other of the original GW artists, shall we? And I'm saying this as someone that admits the big influence of Blanche's work, specially in Mordheim, that I'll admit was is little freak-circus. (I'll don't comment anymore in this conversation because is offtopic and it always end the same way)

John Blanche is the Oracle. He’s the source of the madness of the 41st Millenium.

Jes and the others are his translators, doing their best to make sense of his works in a way man can comprehend.

I can agree with that. (But even then many originals designs are from Jess, not Blanche)

Now, to be on topic. Valdor:

Looks like no alternate head is included.

 Galas wrote:
I can agree with that. (But even then many originals designs are from Jess, not Blanche)

Now, to be on topic. Valdor:

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That's at least some good news. The most gaudy oversized Blanchey element look to be at least somewhat separate and therefor easy to replace.

I'd swap his head for a normal Custodes helmet, regardless.

Not sure about the overall of Valdor, but I love that version of the guardian spear; it truly looks like a master crafted weapon, created by an artisan for a specific individual.

Literally nothing but one arm is needed from that first picture in order to actually build Valdor.

He'll get trotted out at £50+ though.

What harm would it do to split the model at say £30 for the figure, and then £20 or so for the scenic base for those who want it?

What's up with the giant drive-in movie theatre forehead on Valdor? Shield Captain too.... they look like the 'Leader' from Hulk???

 MajorTom11 wrote:
What's up with the giant drive-in movie theatre forehead on Valdor? Shield Captain too.... they look like the 'Leader' from Hulk???

Thats my biggest problem with Valdor. At least from the picture, he looks like he has a giant egg-shaped head.

 Galas wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:
What's up with the giant drive-in movie theatre forehead on Valdor? Shield Captain too.... they look like the 'Leader' from Hulk???

Thats my biggest problem with Valdor. At least from the picture, he looks like he has a giant egg-shaped head.

I'm pretty sure it's just the angle making his head look big. I think a lot of what we're mistaking for his forehead is actually more the slope of the top of his head.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
What's up with the giant drive-in movie theatre forehead on Valdor? Shield Captain too.... they look like the 'Leader' from Hulk???

All I can think of when I see them...




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Well, I'll say Valdor looks as bad...as I think Dorn looks good (which is to say all of the crazy/overstyle garbage I was happy to see absent on Dorn was obviously shifted - with a shovel - onto Valdor).

Terrible.

But, only wargear on the model matters and there's nothing stopping anyone from running another model as Valdor. The captain does have a rather amusingly sized cranium.

 Thanatos73 wrote:
Well that’s....something. I really need some better pictures but he doesn’t seem, right I guess is the word I’m looking for? There’s just a lot going on on the upper half of that model.

Looks a lot like a piece of Blanche art. Too faithful to the source, it looks ridiculous. I'll likely give Valdor a pass.
And it misses out on one of the lovely details on the Valoris kit- the lion pelt is designed to be completely optional, with full details for the pad and cape under it, while Valdor seems like you are forced to add most of the excessive bling. Ixion Hale is awesome. Where did FW go wrong?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Thanatos73 wrote:
Well that’s....something. I really need some better pictures but he doesn’t seem, right I guess is the word I’m looking for? There’s just a lot going on on the upper half of that model.

Looks a lot like a piece of Blanche art. Too faithful to the source, it looks ridiculous. I'll likely give Valdor a pass.
And it misses out on one of the lovely details on the Valoris kit- the lion pelt is designed to be completely optional, with full details for the pad and cape under it, while Valdor seems like you are forced to add most of the excessive bling. Ixion Hale is awesome. Where did FW go wrong?

Agreed on Valdor looking like Blanche art. I love his art but it does not translate into minis directly. Look at the Pilgrym project from White Dwarf. It’s all heavily influenced by Blanche’s art br it looks dark and brooding and 40k. Valdor just looks redicilous.

I also have Ixion Hale and I love that model. So much better than Valdor. Even Valoris would make a better Valdor.

Ordana wrote:
Their Custodes. Every single one of them is super special. Their the sort of army that has a leader because someone needs to be in charge but it could be anyone and it wouldn't matter who.
They don't need a super bling dude to be their leader.

Then you never needed a bespoke model for Valdor, just build 'Valdor' from the plastic kit.

I need to see the turnaround, but I...kind of really like it. Valdor should be the pimpinist player in the blingiest army GW produces.

As they say, overkill is underrated. And this model appears to embody that axiom. As Crimson said, if you want subtle Custodes characters, use the plastic.

I want Buck Wild, and this is that model.

 Darth Bob wrote:

 Galas wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:
What's up with the giant drive-in movie theatre forehead on Valdor? Shield Captain too.... they look like the 'Leader' from Hulk???

Thats my biggest problem with Valdor. At least from the picture, he looks like he has a giant egg-shaped head.

I'm pretty sure it's just the angle making his head look big. I think a lot of what we're mistaking for his forehead is actually more the slope of the top of his head.

Naw man, trust me, I am pretty damn familiar with anatomy, general rule is your eyes are only a tiny bit above the mid-point between the bottom of the jaw and the top of the head... by that standard ratio, he is in 'tonic' territory for sure, faux-hawk or not. As I said, the head on the other release, the shield captain, also seems to be oddly proportioned and suffering from a similar but less pronounced problem. IMHO of course...