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170 euros the box!! cheaper than expected

zamerion wrote:
170 euros the box!! cheaper than expected

Wow. Now 170 for twenty minis and a bit of scenery is "cheaper than expected". FML.

 Albertorius wrote:

zamerion wrote:
170 euros the box!! cheaper than expected

Wow. Now 170 for twenty minis and a bit of scenery is "cheaper than expected". FML.

Wow looking warcry box, yes, it is cheaper.

I've not played Kill Team but this may get me to do it, hexagons and triangles and all!

Will the Into the Dark Game have the full rules or do I need something else as well?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I've not played Kill Team but this may get me to do it, hexagons and triangles and all!

Will the Into the Dark Game have the full rules or do I need something else as well?

You will have everything you need

zamerion wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

zamerion wrote:
170 euros the box!! cheaper than expected

Wow. Now 170 for twenty minis and a bit of scenery is "cheaper than expected". FML.

Wow looking warcry box, yes, it is cheaper.

Mostly realizing what people finds "normal" to pay for a box set nowadays. I understand that the new normal is 180 euros, then?

 Albertorius wrote:

zamerion wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

zamerion wrote:
170 euros the box!! cheaper than expected

Wow. Now 170 for twenty minis and a bit of scenery is "cheaper than expected". FML.

Wow looking warcry box, yes, it is cheaper.

Mostly realizing what people finds "normal" to pay for a box set nowadays. I understand that the new normal is 180 euros, then?

I see less normal things.

zamerion wrote:
I see less normal things.

Is that a "yes" or a "no", then?

zamerion wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I've not played Kill Team but this may get me to do it, hexagons and triangles and all!

Will the Into the Dark Game have the full rules or do I need something else as well?

You will have everything you need

Here is the Warhammer Community article with the box content breakdown.

Aware this is an obvious question, but am I right in thinking that the Blooded, other than the Commissar and Ogryn are a proper proper multipart kit, and not solely limited to the advertised build?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Aware this is an obvious question, but am I right in thinking that the Blooded, other than the Commissar and Ogryn are a proper proper multipart kit, and not solely limited to the advertised build?

https://imgur.com/gallery/x3nZD7R

Very nice, thank you

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

jullevi wrote:
It's a bit annoying that Traitor Comissar and Ogryn are included in the Chaos Traitor Guardsmen set. It makes sense as a Kill Team product but greatly reduces the temptation to pick multiple kits for 40k.

On the bright side, if/when that kit comes out for 40k, it'll be cheaper.

Of course, it probably won't have the upgrade sprue either, so...

Have 40k rules been put out for it yet? As in a traitor guard squad with the functioning upgrades? I wonder if they will be included within the squad... Probably not.

I also wonder if the upgrades will come to the phobos datasheet

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Have 40k rules been put out for it yet? As in a traitor guard squad with the functioning upgrades?

Sadly no. Everyone thought they would end up in the recently released Chaos Codex, but sadly no.

Three Chaos-themed Codices in a row and they've managed to leave Traitor Guard out of all of them.

Article does say they’re getting 40K rules, but not the how.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:

Have 40k rules been put out for it yet? As in a traitor guard squad with the functioning upgrades? I wonder if they will be included within the squad... Probably not.

I also wonder if the upgrades will come to the phobos datasheet

The 40K rules for the Traitor Guard Squad will likely come out next week to further promote their then ongoing preoder period. My guess is still on Codex CSM, since the changes to IG would need to be way too substancial to justify one kit. Also don't expect anything beyond basic loadout. We can be lucky if they even consider the Ogryn for the 40K counterpart.

Likely there will be no updates to the 40K Phobos Datasheet. So far none of the Killteam extras where incoporated into 40K. But maybe Codex SM 9.2 will prove me wrong.

 GiToRaZor wrote:

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:

Have 40k rules been put out for it yet? As in a traitor guard squad with the functioning upgrades? I wonder if they will be included within the squad... Probably not.

I also wonder if the upgrades will come to the phobos datasheet

The 40K rules for the Traitor Guard Squad will likely come out next week to further promote their then ongoing preoder period. My guess is still on Codex CSM, since the changes to IG would need to be way too substancial to justify one kit. Also don't expect anything beyond basic loadout. We can be lucky if they even consider the Ogryn for the 40K counterpart.

Likely there will be no updates to the 40K Phobos Datasheet. So far none of the Killteam extras where incoporated into 40K. But maybe Codex SM 9.2 will prove me wrong.

Not quite correct, as they were included in some capacity for Kommandos (wargear, not actual stat line upgrades), the same for chaos legionaries who can gain a psyker. I'm not really looking for specialist operatives I suppose, more if the phobos would be able to take a special sniper bolter etc.

We'll see anyway, I also wonder if the Imperial navy breachers will be tied to one faction, or become imperial agents.

The Aeldari corsairs can also use the KT weapon options in the veteran version of the unit in the Codex.

Some of the DKoK parts are usable for various AM units, but not in any formal way (the medic obviously can be used as a medic in a command squad, and the spotter/comms parts can make a great Master of Ordnance. Sadly demo charges are no longer an option for veterans or special weapons squads).

Both the Corsairs and the Kommandos have their upgrades on the main sprue, rather than as a separate sprue.

 tauist wrote:


Yes it would.. But I already have a partially built one I bought from ebay and AFAIK the kit was monopose so.. I suppose one could convert the pose to a different one?

Would be fun to see the KT21 stats for an Ambull tho! How many wounds would it even have - 20, 30, more?

Yeah, its a shame its monopose. No idea about the current edition but it was quite mean in the last one.

 crumby_cataphract wrote:
...Grot, do you smell burnt toast?

I think he's still using Internet Explorer, he'll catch up eventually.

 Oguhmek wrote:
Three boxes a year, eh? Six teams?
Took me almost a year to paint up the Octarius box and the two teams that came with it.
So if I spend 100% of my hobby time on KT, I might get to play one set of scenarios per season, one year after release (basically at the same time they are replaced by the new season).
This pace of releases is crazy, and this is just one of the (minor) game systems.

You mean four boxes (8 teams). One per quarter, every 3 months = 4 per year. We already have their names too: Gallowdark, Shadowvaults, Soulshackle, Shadowfall - thats four.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:

 crumby_cataphract wrote:
...Grot, do you smell burnt toast?

How's that Crow taste?

Congrats, you "predicted" things that had already been announced?

Like I said, hes running internet explorer. Had no idea he was posting a bunch of stuff we were already fully aware of as though he was some sort of oracle (or we are a bunch of idiots) and then threw a fit when others questioned why he was telling us what we already knew. Not the first time he's done it.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:

Boosykes wrote:
Gellerpox should be deathguard torments

That's a really good idea.

Was considering grabbing some extra Gellarpox boxes to convert the big'uns into DG chaos spawn, personally (I loathe the actual spawn minis with a passion). Then again, was also thinking of using torments for the same purpose lol.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Have 40k rules been put out for it yet? As in a traitor guard squad with the functioning upgrades?

Sadly no. Everyone thought they would end up in the recently released Chaos Codex, but sadly no.

Three Chaos-themed Codices in a row and they've managed to leave Traitor Guard out of all of them.

The lack of traitor guard rules in the CSM codex has me wondering if the rules for playing traitor guard will be an option for the new Astra Militarum codex. Unlikely, but not impossible.

Who knows we might end up with a traitor guard codex?

Thin and with limited units but not impossible

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Who knows we might end up with a traitor guard codex?

Thin and with limited units but not impossible

Just need to do something similar to brood brothers with GSC. Just release an upgrade sprue (ideally one that is more complex than what GSC got) and bam. Chaos tanks, chaos sentries, chaos heavy weapon teams. Basically just AM, but Chaosy. I guess they'd get cultist as well. Might need a bit of work to really stand out from loyal guard, but I think it could work out

zamerion wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Aware this is an obvious question, but am I right in thinking that the Blooded, other than the Commissar and Ogryn are a proper proper multipart kit, and not solely limited to the advertised build?

https://imgur.com/gallery/x3nZD7R

Just note that some bits only work with some bodies. I honestly found the kit rather annoying since all the torso fronts I actually liked were for only one or two leg/back sets. I had expected something like the Scions kit, where any chest piece fits any back, but it is not so at all. A few of them also have what I think are feather cloaks, which while you *can* put any arms with them, the arms that have the rest of the cloak look the best. There are still some ways you can swap around parts, and its far better than say the new Accursed Cultists kit in terms of posability, but overall I was a bit underwhelmed. Maybe the better term was annoyed.

Its not the worst in the world, just note this as if you want say your plasmagunner with a specific chestplate you will need to plan the entire kit construction around that, etc.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
Hey GW, there are more weeks (read: paydays) in the year. No need to drop a new box, the contents of another box and two more teams and a book in the same week. Instead one big load and they’ll roll over and start snoring for the next three months.

You don't have to buy it all day of release. The teams will still be there for months.

You're right. I can wait a couple of weeks then buy it off eBay with an additional 25% storage fee.

So where do I find the core rules for kill team and necrons anyway? Is it an official freebie thing or do I have to buy a pricey supplement that will be rendered obsolete like 40k's rule sets?

Is kill team faster to play and less convoluted than 9th ed?

 Chairman Aeon wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
Hey GW, there are more weeks (read: paydays) in the year. No need to drop a new box, the contents of another box and two more teams and a book in the same week. Instead one big load and they’ll roll over and start snoring for the next three months.

You don't have to buy it all day of release. The teams will still be there for months.

You're right. I can wait a couple of weeks then buy it off eBay with an additional 25% storage fee.

Yes, the book will entirely sell out in two weeks, as will the team boxes.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Chairman Aeon wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
Hey GW, there are more weeks (read: paydays) in the year. No need to drop a new box, the contents of another box and two more teams and a book in the same week. Instead one big load and they’ll roll over and start snoring for the next three months.

You don't have to buy it all day of release. The teams will still be there for months.

You're right. I can wait a couple of weeks then buy it off eBay with an additional 25% storage fee.

Yes, the book will entirely sell out in two weeks, as will the team boxes.

Are you basing that on the fact that all previously released books and Kill Teams are still available

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Chairman Aeon wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
Hey GW, there are more weeks (read: paydays) in the year. No need to drop a new box, the contents of another box and two more teams and a book in the same week. Instead one big load and they’ll roll over and start snoring for the next three months.

You don't have to buy it all day of release. The teams will still be there for months.

You're right. I can wait a couple of weeks then buy it off eBay with an additional 25% storage fee.

Yes, the book will entirely sell out in two weeks, as will the team boxes.

Those could be around for years or gone in 60 seconds, but as that’s what I’ll get next weekend it means the big box which isn’t in my budget right now will probably be gone when I can afford it. Wish I could just drop $500 on my hobby every eeek, but unfortunately that’s not the case.