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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 13:43:25
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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What do you honestly think is the best anti tank unit in the game?
Please, to keep things reasonable, squad sizes have a maximum of 10. Or, better yet, give an example of something you would actually use, please no 30 death company with 30 thunder hammers and 30 storm shields.
Personally, I would say Broadsides with advanced stabilization system, or Manticore, or maybe even the Vanquisher with pask.
Opinions? Whats your races favourite anti tank unit and how do you use it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 13:58:27
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Deadly Drop-Podin' Sternguard (Rangers).
No doubt, 5 combi-meltas drop-poding on an LR for only 185 points will do great, for sure! 5 more costs a lot more, so there is more risk... But when you can effectively pop an L.R. with at least 6 meltas, they are worth it.
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I have 2000 points of , called the Crimson Leaves.
I will soon be starting WoC, devoted to
I have 500 points of , in blueberry and ice cream (light grey and light blue) flavour. From the fictional world Darkheim.
DarkHound wrote:Stop it you. Core has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by mercenaries and machines. Core, and its consumption of life, has become a well-oiled machine. Core has changed. ID tagged soldiers carry ID tagged weapons, use ID tagged gear. Nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Genetic control. Information control. Emotion control. Battlefield control. Everything is monitored, and kept under control. Core has changed. The age of deterrence has become the age of control. All in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction. And he who controls the battlefield, controls history. Core has changed. When the battlefield is under total control, war... becomes routine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/29 18:20:51
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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3 Broadside Battlesuits with advanced stabilization systems guided by a Markerdrone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 14:28:40
Subject: Re:Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Leman Russ Vanquisher with Multi-meltas, Lascannon, Hunter-killer Missile and Commander Pask.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 14:44:17
Subject: Re:Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
I wanna go back to New Jersey
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Going to have to agree with you, full broadside team. Just point, and remove tank.Much more simple and easy compared for waiting for turn two and podding in.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 15:17:51
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Fire dragons. Up to 10 of them, they all have melta guns for 16 points a piece (unlike 30 for those sternguard), they can have tank hunters, and they have melta bombs just in case their shooting didn't do enough for you.
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Why did the berzerker cross the road?
Gwar! wrote:Willydstyle has it correct
Gwar! wrote:Yup you're absolutely right
New to the game and can't win? Read this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 15:19:54
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
Behind you
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Ravenwing attack squadron with 2 meltaguns and a multi-melta
OR
Ravenwing support squadron with Multi-meltas. Up to 5 multi-melta armed land speeders.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 15:20:12
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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These are all nasty and 100% lethal, but Broadsides are the clear winner because none of the other ones can kill monoliths!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 15:27:42
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
...urrrr... I dunno
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willydstyle wrote:Fire dragons. Up to 10 of them, they all have melta guns for 16 points a piece (unlike 30 for those sternguard), they can have tank hunters, and they have melta bombs just in case their shooting didn't do enough for you.
This, because it's horrible, and you don't see many necron players these days, so the monoliths aren't too much of a problem. Stupid kids and their SM armies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 15:28:38
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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willydstyle wrote:Fire dragons. Up to 10 of them, they all have melta guns for 16 points a piece (unlike 30 for those sternguard), they can have tank hunters, and they have melta bombs just in case their shooting didn't do enough for you.
And the exarch with his longer range fusion gun that ignores cover.
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"Praise Be To The Omissiah!"
"Three things make the Empire great: Faith, Steel and Gunpowder!"
Azarath Metrion Zinthos
Expect my posts to have a bazillion edits. I miss out letters, words, sometimes even entire sentences in my points and posts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 15:33:31
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Jaon wrote:These are all nasty and 100% lethal, but Broadsides are the clear winner because none of the other ones can kill monoliths!
I base my anti-tank prowess more on being able to kill rhinos consistently than monoliths, because frankly you don't often *need* to kill monoliths when playing against Necrons, and on a day-to-day basis you're way more likely to fight a rhino than a monolith, or even a land raider.
Another unit that has not been mentioned: Medusas with bastion breacher shells.
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Why did the berzerker cross the road?
Gwar! wrote:Willydstyle has it correct
Gwar! wrote:Yup you're absolutely right
New to the game and can't win? Read this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 15:43:33
Subject: Re:Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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best AT weapon.
Zoanthrope Warp Lance.
Range 24"(IIRC)
Str10
AP1
Lance
why, yes, I am penetrating your LR on 3+
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 15:57:22
Subject: Re:Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Grey Templar wrote:best AT weapon.
Zoanthrope Warp Lance.
Range 24"(IIRC)
Str10
AP1
Lance
why, yes, I am penetrating your LR on 3+
I'm pleased you said WEAPON, rather than unit! As it's also the most unreliable with a spore pod, short-ish range, nullification and perils!
Best Unit? Likely Broadsides, although MM land speeders and fire dragons shouldn't be underestimated, however Broadsides have the range that is otherwise laking in most melta-weapons...
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 15:58:23
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Don't forget that Warp Lance actually has an 18" range too.
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Why did the berzerker cross the road?
Gwar! wrote:Willydstyle has it correct
Gwar! wrote:Yup you're absolutely right
New to the game and can't win? Read this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 16:00:56
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Fixture of Dakka
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There were rumours - and emphasis on rumours - of a Dark Eldar weapon that'd be melta AND lance...
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 16:08:36
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Sneaky Lictor
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IG Vets with demolition and 3 meltas dropped in front of enemy tank via valkyrie (1st turn if you get it). Melta tank and charge it with 10 melta-bombs if it fails.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 16:10:06
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Fixture of Dakka
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and how much does that cost all in all?
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 16:12:53
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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260, so actually on par with fire dragons in a wave serpent or other options. However The Strange Dude is actually missing the best part of the tactic. If you're going first, you don't want to shoot your melta guns at all. You simply want to set up a multi-assault on as many enemy vehicles as possible. If you can destroy a couple of rhinos and a land raider (just an example) before they even get to move, you can make a huge impact on the game, even if you're sacrificing a unit of vets to do so.
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Why did the berzerker cross the road?
Gwar! wrote:Willydstyle has it correct
Gwar! wrote:Yup you're absolutely right
New to the game and can't win? Read this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 16:49:22
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Sister Vastly Superior
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I don't know, I still like my Tankbustas. They don't offer as sure a kill as......well, pretty much anything else, but I certainly don't see any other units able to kill tanks with the equivalent of a small, yappy dog wrapped in dynamite.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 17:00:07
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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So the points are a little higher, but it has a ton of uses. Longfang squad with Logan Grimnar. Im a little over the model count for your unit conditions because I would like to add two rune priests to the squad as well, bringing the point cost to around 560 I believe. Logan can give the squad tank hunters, half being armed with las and half with missle. Add in the psychic powers, beefiest unit with multi role, relentless or fearless or tank hunter when they need it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 17:17:24
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
I wanna go back to New Jersey
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Jaon wrote:These are all nasty and 100% lethal, but Broadsides are the clear winner because none of the other ones can kill monoliths!
True, but they CAN wreck them by rolling three straight sixes  (Happened with a Fusion Blaster)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 17:40:00
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Stormin' Stompa
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It's not the best, but it's one of my favourites because it's just so unexpected... Logan Grimnar granting Tank Hunters to a unit with Arjac Rockfist... Auto-penetrates AV 11 with AP1 at 10". Logan with Long Fangs can also be pretty rude... he turns your 10-point missile launchers into Lascannons (edit: as pointed out above - nevermind  )! It's usually a waste of a Grimnar, but it sure is funny.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 17:42:35
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Point for point? 100 points of veterans with some meltas and bring it down probably rank up there.
The Vanquisher with pask is a POS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 17:45:15
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Bounding Assault Marine
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My money is still on a unit of Fire Dragons.
I use two units of 6 w/ Exarch and tank hunters in Serpents. Love them and in reality Eldar can not function without them.
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Let the Bell toll for those that encounter us, not for what we have encountered!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 17:48:06
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Stormin' Stompa
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Tell that to my Fire Dragons. They roll 1s and 2s like it's Leadership Test Tuesdays.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 18:03:55
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Right, I think this question has to be split.
What is the most amount of anti-tank carnage you can put on a unit you'd reasonably consider fielding? Yeah, probably sternguard with combi-melta, or some terminators with some chainfists or the boradside broadside.
as for killy-per-point, I'd have to say the imperial guard priest. 3 re-rolling meltabomb attacks for 65 points? Yes please.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 18:13:34
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Sneaky Kommando
Hemet california
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for me it would be a bw w/ deffrolla boarding planks and some pk nobz in it.
other than that sternguard w/ dp
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Diplomacy is the act of saying good doggie until you can find a big enough gun!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 18:21:20
Subject: Re:Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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How about a Demolisher with a Lascannon and Multi-melta sponsons? There's not a lot of vehicles that can deal with that much concentrated fire-power. Throw in Pask and it's almost an auto-kill with average rolls. Cost 210 (260 w Pask).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 18:31:27
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Sneaky Lictor
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Ailaros wrote:Right, I think this question has to be split.
What is the most amount of anti-tank carnage you can put on a unit you'd reasonably consider fielding? Yeah, probably sternguard with combi-melta, or some terminators with some chainfists or the boradside broadside.
as for killy-per-point, I'd have to say the imperial guard priest. 3 re-rolling meltabomb attacks for 65 points? Yes please.
Don't you only get 1 attack per model when using grenades?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 18:38:59
Subject: Best single anti tank unit in the game?
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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My money is on Broadsides, and Leman russ tanks with Las cannon and plasma sponsons. Or failing that my Shadow sword also does a rather nice jobb as AT unit
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