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I dont know who this "wise guy" is but thats the dumbest idea I've ever heard of! Probably have an excel sheet and everything...

I like the melta damage, so if it looks better irl, I think your set there!

Yggdrasil wrote:It might help you... Also, though I think the "sparkled effect" you achieved thanks to the airbrush is great, it looks a bit too round-shaped for the shape of the impacts... Do you see what I mean?

I think I can use some weathering powder on those to get the effect you're talking about. Love the music in the vid, my wife thought I was up here watching a stag film. (bow-chicka-bow-wow!)

Do you think it was a lightning claw that did it? If so, it sure generates heat... If it's your son's Tyranids, then maybe not... In anycase, watered-down Chaos Black or Badab Black could do the job, if put into a few, almost translucent layers...

I'll think about it... maybe on the decidedly "lighning claw" looking damage I'll do a little shading. A lot of the damage though I look at as areas where hunks of metal were just fractured off by contact with other large metal objects (other dreads, machines, even nids) and as such would have no discoloration. Again, I'll ponder it a bit.

Actually I do think it looks weird, but as I said before, I'm confident it would look better in person... But you're right, that's the thing that struck me first when I saw it...

It looks better in person... but it's not the effect I was hoping for... I just have NO talent for making anything look like it's glowing. *sigh* Perhaps a little bit of weathering powder around the impact area to accentuate the head damage and set it off from the background (I think the effect would be more striking if the dread was not already yellow).

I think he was writing about the BA lists you fought against, not yours...

Ah, my bad.

Also, did I mention "Awesome job on the Dread"?

Thanks!


Unfortunately WM's post is caught in the page rollover so I can't respond to it yet... perhaps once this post registers I can come back and edit it appropriately.

Awesome work on the battle damage, I take it you used weathering powders to achieve the scorch effects?

Actually the scorch marks were airbrushed... but any adjustments now need to be applied as powders as the airbrush isn't accurate enough for fine details. At least not with me controlling it.

Last two sternguard builds are done, will post them in a bit.

I'll think about it... maybe on the decidedly "lighning claw" looking damage I'll do a little shading. A lot of the damage though I look at as areas where hunks of metal were just fractured off by contact with other large metal objects (other dreads, machines, even nids) and as such would have no discoloration. Again, I'll ponder it a bit.

You always have the primer showing through.

CommissarKhaine wrote:You always have the primer showing through.

Somewhere along the line I got the impression that marine armor wasn't painted the same way as normal... that the pigments were actually infused into the material rather than there being a "primer" as per normal.

Here are my last two Sternguard builds (at lest for my tournament army).

First, the last of the combimelta guys. I actually cut the melta nozzle off of the one of the little chapterhouse combiweapons but as soon as I did it shot across the floor of my studio never to be seen again... so I got tired of feeding $$$ in melta guns to these dang things and just cut a section to cabling and glued it on. If I paint it red, no one will know the difference. If I ever figure out how to make the insta-mold work well enough, I'll replace it with a proper melta muzzle later on. To be honest I think it looks a lot cleaner than any of the other conversions I've tried, or the real GW combimelta for that matter. The pose is inspired by one of my original plastic beakies from decades ago. It was always everyone's favorite (it actually had two bolt guns) so I thought I'd reprise the role here. Instead of the bayonet (which would not have looked right with the combimelta muzzle), I gave him a small sword on his right hip.



My second Sternguard is a melta guy. Decided to swap out one of the combimeltas for one guy who could fire a melta shot each round. Hate to give up the special ammo, but he does make possible two volleys of three melta shots, or an emergency single melta shot at some other time during a battle. Also he gives me at least one guy who won't kill himself with the "gets hot" rule... I think he's my favorite out of all of them... the pose just worked out with only a little tweaking of his original shap.



Gits

Hi there! Those are some nice sternguard Gits, isn't that about twenty, twenty-five know?
Srry, i've been lurking the forums for awhile, so I do have a few favorite threads(This among them). I really like the tranquilities, but I think the camo schemes were nerfed in the Badab War. Are you moulding those guys yourself 108 pages man, reading it all would drive most people to insanity, and don't get me wrong, I read The Founding in 1 & 1/2 days, but the jumble of a forum is just nuts. I did read quite a few of the pages on this though. How are things 1&2 doing, speaking of which, thing 2s thread has just sat there for awhile, is he out of the hobby?
Nice to meet you.

Excellent posing their Gits. I prefer the Melta Marine to the other Sternguard but I'm still likin' those Sniper Bolters.

Hey Gits looking great mate! fantastic work with the Ironclad. You're making me want to try out my airbrush now too, had it for a while now but never got round to doing much more than playing with it.

Gitsplitta wrote:
My second Sternguard is a melta guy. Decided to swap out one of the combimeltas for one guy who could fire a melta shot each round. Hate to give up the special ammo, but he does make possible two volleys of three melta shots, or an emergency single melta shot at some other time during a battle. Also he gives me at least one guy who won't kill himself with the "gets hot" rule... I think he's my favorite out of all of them... the pose just worked out with only a little tweaking of his original shap.

I think you might be getting your wires crossed here, it's only plasma weapons that use the gets hot rule, so your combi-meltas will be fine. Oh unless you mean that vengeance ammo, if that's what you meant ignore my ramblings!...

those are some really nice sternguard!

platypuscorps wrote:Hi there! Those are some nice sternguard Gits, isn't that about twenty, twenty-five know?
Srry, i've been lurking the forums for awhile, so I do have a few favorite threads(This among them). I really like the tranquilities, but I think the camo schemes were nerfed in the Badab War. Are you moulding those guys yourself 108 pages man, reading it all would drive most people to insanity, and don't get me wrong, I read The Founding in 1 & 1/2 days, but the jumble of a forum is just nuts. I did read quite a few of the pages on this though. How are things 1&2 doing, speaking of which, thing 2s thread has just sat there for awhile, is he out of the hobby?
Nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you too platy! Actually when I finish these I'll have a grand total of 8, so not even a full squad yet! Yeah, it's not so much a P&M blog as a rolling narrative on my hobby... but splitting it up would only weaken it to the point of irrelevancy.

Gathering Storm wrote:Excellent posing their Gits. I prefer the Melta Marine to the other Sternguard but I'm still likin' those Sniper Bolters.

Thanks GS! Like I said, it's my favorite too!

perplexiti wrote:
I think you might be getting your wires crossed here, it's only plasma weapons that use the gets hot rule, so your combi-meltas will be fine. Oh unless you mean that vengeance ammo, if that's what you meant ignore my ramblings!...

Yep, that's what I was referring to.

Sageheart wrote:those are some really nice sternguard!

Danke'


Well, got out the pigments and worked on the impact craters... I think they're better now. Also finished the flamer so I guess he's basically done with the exception of the back of the base. I'll do one more front shot when I get his HK missiles painted and attached.

Is this closer to what you are thinking about for the Termie head Gits?





I have sharpened up the inner edge of the mandibles as well to make them look less organic.

That is a (IM(not)HO) the perfect MW Termi head. If you share any of these heads out gits, I'm calling one now.

that boltpistol...am I right in saying that they're from the FW character conversion kit?
If I am, what did you do with those sweet power fists, bionic limbs and plasma pistols it came with?

Didn't think you could do the head better. Mea culpa. It rocks.

Perfect BLACKHAND. Not chaos, but not vanilla either.

@Shrike: I'll use them eventually. Not on this particular army, but I'll use them when I expend it. I originally wanted to stick with the original RT equipment, but the original bolt pistols were just but-ugly... so I couldn't see using them on figures that were going to get so much effort.


Late night update: Got the base color on the two HK missiles done and the missiles magnetized (not easy). Also got the base color and first wash done on the two new sternguard. We're supposed to get another blizzard tomorrow so internet may be dodgy, but I hope to put the final (final) touches on the dread and finish yellowing up the sternguard, at which point I'll post pics of both.

Gits

Somewhere along the line I got the impression that marine armor wasn't painted the same way as normal... that the pigments were actually infused into the material rather than there being a "primer" as per normal.

In that case, I'll be shutting up now

As for the minis: love the movie-pose marine! Meltaguy looks cool as well, really looks like he's staring down something a lot bigger then he is.

Gitsplitta wrote:Somewhere along the line I got the impression that marine armor wasn't painted the same way as normal... that the pigments were actually infused into the material rather than there being a "primer" as per normal.

I had missed that part... I would have quite agreed with you Git, until a few lines in various books of the Horus Heresy line talked about the bare / unpainted / metal sheen Power Armour plates, that the Legion receive from the Forges of Mars... It seems the artificers HAVE to paint them, and I don't see any reason why they would bother re-melting the ceramite to infuse the colours within...

But your opinion was way more 'romantic', and something I had thought as well for years...

I guess, as many things in the far future, there are a lot of possible opinions / take on the events...

Well... ceramite is a ceramic... at least that's what I assume they're after. Ceramics don't melt, once their formed they only shatter. That's why they use ceramic tiles on the space shuttle. So I'd gotten the impression the the color would be part of the ceramite making process. Not that doesn't mean that you couldn't paint over the top of the armor, but the color of the original ceramite would be part of it's basic structure as it came from the factory (so to speak).

Guess that involves repainting the scratches terracotta?

I like the metallic chippings. However another wash or two might help to enrich it. I did a similar thing on my Black Templars dread and it seems fine. (link is in my sig).

I've also started work on the Dark Mechanicus Marine. I think it would make a great chaos mantid objective marker.

@GS: A wash of what color? Badab Black or something like Delvan Mud or Sepia?

Thing 2 and I are in the midst of a great game! My little Adepticon force vs. his Tyranids. He's a little short on anti-armor stuff for this army but a couple of squads of gene stealers can go a long way. Right now were deadlocked in turn 5 at 4 kill points each, and we both have the ability to score a couple of quick kills without much effort next turn (we did the roll already). He's afternoon with the other Nid player apparently payed some dividends as he started off with some tactical insights I'd never seen him use before and with a bit of guidance from me... he's given me quite a battle!.

One of the things with this little army of mine is that I have a ton of kill points to give away... 10 in only 1000 pts.

Some Devlan Mud would probably help make it darker but not too dark. I'm not completely sure though as the damage on my Dread was against black and not bright yellow.

Sorry for taking so long Gitsplitta, got side tracked by battlecry (NZ tourney). Here's the old mini's I was talking about. I stripped off 90% of the paint, but they'll still need some work. The guy who I got them off must of painted with house paint or something...



Let me know which, if any, you want.

Man some of those figures bring back memories... that tech marine on the top row has been my tech marine forever... right now he's standing in for my MoTF...

OK, the one's Im interested in...

top row, L-R: #2, #4
bottom row: #2, #5 & #6

Those are so cool vent... thank you!

Gitsplitta wrote:Man some of those figures bring back memories... that tech marine on the top row has been my tech marine forever... right now he's standing in for my MoTF...

OK, the one's Im interested in...

top row, L-R: #2, #4
bottom row: #2, #5 & #6

Those are so cool vent... thank you!

No worries. You want the capes/packs to go with the captains?

Yes please.

First cast of the termie head, TechMantis and the Big Ol' Bug 'Ead .TM



Gave them a wash of Devlan Mud to show the detail, they look a little messy but believe me they are crisp and bubble free.

Cheers,

BLACKHAND

vent wrote:Sorry for taking so long Gitsplitta, got side tracked by battlecry (NZ tourney). Here's the old mini's I was talking about. I stripped off 90% of the paint, but they'll still need some work. The guy who I got them off must of painted with house paint or something...



Let me know which, if any, you want.

Haha, the bottom row #5 is an awesome model, I have the space wolf version of that model.

I love the standard bearer model, you be up for a swap/payment for him? (assuming you and nobody else wants him of course)

Awesome work Blackhand, I am jealous of your sculpting and casting abilities! Gits' models are going to look amazing.

@BLACKHAND: They all look fantastic! Love the big 'ol bug head! LOL Be nice to have that technical head... have a bunch of trooper classes that would be most appropriate for. (tech marines, apothecaries, devastators, etc).