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Hey Gits, thought I would post up my prototype Mantis Terminator Helmet and Mantis Tech Helmet...Let me know what you think.
First of the Termie, found there was not much space to enlarge the eye but could at least give it the teardrop shape to tie them in to the rest of the MW
And here is the beginnings of the Tech Helmet, I considered changing the jaw area but thought I might cast this one first then do another version with a Mantis type jaw just to give you some options
Again let me know what you think and whether or not you would like me to resculpt the jaw
Cheers
BLACKHAND
BobtheInquisitor wrote: I tend to glue metal models with a combination of BSI cyanoacrylate and my tears of frustration.
I really like the subtley of those actually, simple but really effective ([kicks self for not asking BH to do Owl helms]). I especially like the termie, can really picture it as an end product.
Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
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Anpu-adom: "being Geek is about Love. Some love broadly. Some love deeply. And then there are people like Graven.
Those are both really nice BLACKHAND! I have one suggestion on the terminator... It seems to me that the things along the jaw line are natural jumping off points for a mantis jaw modification, and would give the helmet a considerably more insectoid appearance. It's kind of a natural fit as it is... but perhaps a bit of a flair along the jawline would help these to stand out from the normal helmet.
Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."
How hard would it be to put a hexagon patern in the eyes for the termi BH?
Git I love that new FW dread nice and dynamic, as always the camo is excellent but what grabbed me the most was how good your getting with that airbrush matey top stuff
oh and I'll have the converts I made on the way to you probably next week can you do me a biggy and PM me your address?
@BLACKHAND: To clarify... I don't want anything extreme in the jawline, but if you can bring the side pods around a little bit and across the front grille, I think that would really make the look.
@Santobell: Thanks my friend, I really enjoyed putting that one together and took quite a bit of time & thought to the positioning in relation to the sloping base design. Like anything, the more practice I get with the airbrush, the better (or at lest easier) the results are. Still have a long way to go, but I'm going to use it for finishing this entire army (running out of time so there are no options at this point). That being said, I'm really happy with the results. There are still lots of situations where a brush is the only way to go, but for base coating, shadows and blended highlights... especially on large surfaces like vehicles... it's the only way to go if you're on a tight schedule.
I'll PM you my details. Thanks for all your work, I really appreciate it!
So, I made a little progress last night. Unfortunately there have been some other things that by necessity have been occupying my evenings so I'm unable to put in full nights of P&M. However, I continued to work on the two sternguard, added the combi-melta bit to the one and extras (purity seals, pouches, etc) to both. Once I get the Mantis Warrior pointy bits on the armor I'll post a pic. Also got the heavy flamer for the dread cleaned up and primed. Not much progress... but progress none-the-less.
Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."
That's a cool beakie there WM. Nice job with the maxmini bits, I'd have expected them to look massively out of place on the old RT guys, but that works well. And nice, subtle helmets BH.
I agree with Git about the term helmet you can place madribles nicely there. My new pet Mantis thinks the same... I think. OT fun school project keep a insect alive for how long its possiible. i named mine Pete
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Looks good! And more importantly, done! My only complaint would be that the layered cork looks like layered cork. Are you going to hit the rivets with silver?
2011/02/19 06:02:43
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (2/18 - Iron Clad Finished)
Very cool dread. I like the base a lot too. I love the melty bit of battle damage on the right chest(?) plate. The paint over all looks very good, as well.
Those helmets from Blackhand are looking pretty spiffy!
.... super cool dread
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Iron clad looks wicked dude, and I really, really like what you are doing with the helmet lenses, so simple an idea but it has huge impact, they look subtle, appropriate an unique!
Sreiouslyt though, I like everything except the metal in the impacts. You should add some brown like you did around the claw mark IMO. Still, wouldn't like to see that beast charging at me!
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From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem'
2011/02/19 07:06:05
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (2/18 - Iron Clad Finished)
Just beautiful , I see what you mean now about not wanting to detail him too much before all the battle damage and weathering he would have been far too busy.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: I tend to glue metal models with a combination of BSI cyanoacrylate and my tears of frustration.
2011/02/19 08:34:31
Subject: Re:Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (2/18 - Iron Clad Finished)
Great work Git, the yellow looks great and I like the way the base subtley contracts with the mini but doesn't detract from it. The White helm really sets it off. Keep it up, can't wait to see the next thing you have up your sleeve.
2011/02/19 09:34:38
Subject: Re:Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (2/18 - Iron Clad Finished)
The Rout, Vlka Fenryka, Warrior Kings of Fenris.... the Space Wolves. Horus Heresy. Sixth Great Company. 1500pts. In progress.
"Atop a sea, a crimson red,
Axe to bare, land paved with dead,
Strode the Jaw, teeth bared in snarl,
Glimmering maw, death in hand."
Saga of the Gristlefang
2011/02/19 09:46:21
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (2/18 - Iron Clad Finished)
Please dudes, don't forget to vote on that awesome mini!!!
As said Git, it's really striking!!!!
The only things which bothers me are the white-ish areas in the center of the battle scars... It might look better in real life, but here on the pics it looks quiet weird... Is it supposed to represent ashes? On the molten hole, I guess that's the hottest part (hence the brightest colours), but on the bullet / shell impacts, I don't think that works well...
Apart from that minor detail, that's a pure win... Great job, as always!!!
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2011/02/19 10:35:37
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (2/18 - Iron Clad Finished)
Beautiful work mate. The only thing I'm not sold on is the star-shaped damage on the plate to the left of the sarcophagus and likewise the star-shaped damage on the seismic hammer: they could look a little rougher a rounder the edges, imho. But, great job nonetheless.
Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
Solar_Lion: "Man this sums up your blog nicely."
Anpu-adom: "being Geek is about Love. Some love broadly. Some love deeply. And then there are people like Graven.
2011/02/19 11:15:18
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (2/18 - Iron Clad Finished)
ive noticed that sometimes a photo makes my mini look worse than it does in reality,highlights and blending tend to be lost in the photo,i think thats happened on your dread as said in the previous posts.
2011/02/19 11:18:12
Subject: Re:Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (2/18 - Iron Clad Finished)
Gitsplitta wrote:Game two vs. combined Blood Angels force.
They had...
predator
two rhinos w/ troops
sanguine guard
couple of jump pack squads
another tac squad (guys in the crystals?... maybe they were assigned to a rhino? not sure
nasty dread
another nasty dread in a pod that let him assault on deep strike
some winged super-character
First off, amazing models! you make me jealous
I'm sorry to bring back and old post and i'm not too sure if this has been mentioned already but by the looks of it the list you were playing here was illegal, I might be wrong but the Dreads you are calling "nasty" must be death company dreads, for every Death company dread you need at least 5 Death company troops. I'm also pretty sure he can't assault that dread after deep striking, all these might of been the reason you lost because death company dreads are seriously dangerous.
Sorry again if i have repeated what someone else has said and qouted this old post.
d-usa wrote:Orks are the GW version of R2D2. No matter how advanced the defenses may be, there is always an open serial port somewhere that can be pluged into and a firewall that was never configured.
2011/02/19 12:21:45
Subject: Re:Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors - first battle report
Thamor wrote:I'm sorry to bring back and old post and i'm not too sure if this has been mentioned already but by the looks of it the list you were playing here was illegal, I might be wrong but the Dreads you are calling "nasty" must be death company dreads, for every Death company dread you need at least 5 Death company troops. I'm also pretty sure he can't assault that dread after deep striking, all these might of been the reason you lost because death company dreads are seriously dangerous.
Sorry again if i have repeated what someone else has said and qouted this old post.
Actually it might also have been Furioso Dreads, and they don't need DC to be available... Or the Jump Pack troops might have been Death Company, for what we know...
And as for the Deep Strike + Assault, it seems it's a FW drop pod with special rules that allows for an assault after deep-striking...
Anyway, it depends on the colour the "nasty" things were (red or black) lol....
"Squat Hulk- in space no one knows you no longer exist." - Gitzbitah
"Now you're just being silly, everyone knows red paint tastes fasta." - monkeytroll
"Both servers are on different continents so space meteors or thermonuclear war will not be enough take out dakka hopefully." - legoburner
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2011/02/19 12:23:33
Subject: Re:Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors - first battle report
Thamor wrote:I'm sorry to bring back and old post and i'm not too sure if this has been mentioned already but by the looks of it the list you were playing here was illegal, I might be wrong but the Dreads you are calling "nasty" must be death company dreads, for every Death company dread you need at least 5 Death company troops. I'm also pretty sure he can't assault that dread after deep striking, all these might of been the reason you lost because death company dreads are seriously dangerous.
Sorry again if i have repeated what someone else has said and qouted this old post.
Actually it might also have been Furioso Dreads, and they don't need DC to be available... Or the Jump Pack troops might have been Death Company, for what we know...
And as for the Deep Strike + Assault, it seems it's a FW drop pod with special rules that allows for an assault after deep-striking...
Anyway, it depends on the colour the "nasty" things were (red or black) lol....
Indeed, it's what i was trying to distinguish, by the looks of the pictures the assault marines were infact regular marines.
d-usa wrote:Orks are the GW version of R2D2. No matter how advanced the defenses may be, there is always an open serial port somewhere that can be pluged into and a firewall that was never configured.
2011/02/19 12:25:21
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (2/18 - Iron Clad Finished)
"Squat Hulk- in space no one knows you no longer exist." - Gitzbitah
"Now you're just being silly, everyone knows red paint tastes fasta." - monkeytroll
"Both servers are on different continents so space meteors or thermonuclear war will not be enough take out dakka hopefully." - legoburner
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2011/02/19 12:27:17
Subject: Re:Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (2/18 - Iron Clad Finished)
Firstly: Thanks everyone for your kind comments, too many to respond to individually but I will try and get to the main points. I was really tired when I posted it last night so I didn't post much of an explanation with it (we had a big cub scout "do" last night where I was master of ceremonies, then clean up afterwards... so by the time I got home I was toast).
1. The blast holes. The theory is that the center of the shell impact craters would have blown through the ceramite outer armor and exposed some of the metal underneath. Thus the shiny bit there. I've seen accomplished painters do this to good effect. I am also not quite settled with the look either however, as other's have said, a little too round and clean looking, but I'm at a loss as to how to fix it. I did wash each one with badab black hoping to tone down the shine a bit, but apparently that wasn't enough. I could try going in with a little black or dark grey and roughing up the edges of the silver crater in order to make it less regular. I'm open to any ideas on this one.
2. The back of the base is not finished. I will be using a thin layer of spackle to smooth it's appearance & then I'll paint it either the same brown or black. It gives it a cut-away scene appearance. It should look something like this when complete.
3. Brown edging on the slash marks. I didn't do any discoloration around the cuts as chips as I didn't think the physical processes that would result in such damage would generate them. However, I'm open to suggestion. Are we assuming that things like lightening claws or dreadnought CCW's generate a lot of heat? Reasonable I guess... So, I'm open to this suggestion too, but it would be handy if someone could make a recommendation as to how to handle it. I suppose I could use some black weathering powder around the edges of the cuts to show scorching.
4. The melta spot (I'm adding this one.). This is just one of those occasions where the lighing in the photo box does me no favors. I think it looks weird in the pics but nobody commented negatively about it. It looks better in person.
5. The list. No my friend, the list is actually legal. The most recent dreadnought is simply and Iron Clad dread outfitted for close-assault. I have:
HQ: MoTF EL: Sternguard (5) in pod EL: Iron Clad Dread in pod TP: Tac squad (5) in las/plas razorback TP: Tac squad (5) in las/plas razorback HV: Rifleman Dread in pod (MoTF allows this)
The Dread (actually both dreads) are Forge World Mk IV variations, this may be what you're responding to as they do not look like the standard GW dreads.
I'm still working on the heavy flamer that will replace the storm bolter on the Iron Clad, but that was such a minor thing I didn't want to hold up the post for it, besides... I wanted feedback on the "finished" model while I still had time to make corrections.
A wise man once told me that when painting against a schedule that it's often helpful to keep track of the points that are completed as a way of tracking your progress and keeping up your spirits. By that measure then (tweaks on the Iron Clad aside) I have painted.... wait for it....
595 points complete!
With and addition 238 built and awaiting painting.
Ever forward Emil...
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Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."
Gitsplitta wrote:1. The blast holes. The theory is that the center of the shell impact craters would have blown through the ceramite outer armor and exposed some of the metal underneath. Thus the shiny bit there.
It might help you... Also, though I think the "sparkled effect" you achieved thanks to the airbrush is great, it looks a bit too round-shaped for the shape of the impacts... Do you see what I mean?
Gitsplitta wrote:3. Brown edging on the slash marks. I didn't do any discoloration around the cuts as chips as I didn't think the physical processes that would result in such damage would generate them. However, I'm open to suggestion. Are we assuming that things like lightening claws or dreadnought CCW's generate a lot of heat? Reasonable I guess... So, I'm open to this suggestion too, but it would be handy if someone could make a suggestions as to how to handle it. I suppose I could use some black weathering powder around the edges of the cuts to show scorching.
Do you think it was a lightning claw that did it? If so, it sure generates heat... If it's your son's Tyranids, then maybe not... In anycase, watered-down Chaos Black or Badab Black could do the job, if put into a few, almost translucent layers...
Gitsplitta wrote:4. The melta spot (I'm adding this one.). This is just one of those occasions where the lighing in the photo box does me no favors. I think it looks weird in the pics but nobody commented negatively about it. It looks better in person.
Actually I do think it looks weird, but as I said before, I'm confident it would look better in person... But you're right, that's the thing that struck me first when I saw it...
Gitsplitta wrote:5. The list. No my friend, the list is actually legal. The most recent dreadnought is simply and Iron Clad dread outfitted for close-assault.
I think he was writing about the BA lists you fought against, not yours...
Gitsplitta wrote:A wise man once told me that when painting against a schedule that it's often helpful to keep track of the points that are completed as a way of tracking your progress and keeping up your spirits. By that measure then (tweaks on the Iron Clad aside) I have painted.... wait for it....
595 points complete!
With and addition 238 built and awaiting painting.
"Squat Hulk- in space no one knows you no longer exist." - Gitzbitah
"Now you're just being silly, everyone knows red paint tastes fasta." - monkeytroll
"Both servers are on different continents so space meteors or thermonuclear war will not be enough take out dakka hopefully." - legoburner
Please remember to tick the "Disable Voting" box, if the pics you are uploading do not deserve votes (ie. early WIP, blurry pics, batreps, ...) Thanks in advance.