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It's offensive stats may seem kind of low, but keep in mind that its critical hits ignore armour. Additionally, it has great range and a fantastic moveset that makes it an incredible poking and punishment tool. The weapon just gives you so many options, and the damage from Crystal Magic Weapon makes every one of them lethal.
virx67 wrote:Just beat Slim and Fatty. Also killed Knight Laurtec and am wearing his armor. Gold is sweet!
I do like the Estoc; I've upgraded to +10, but haven't gotten it to +15. Do I need another ember or something to do that?
Also, anyone got any tips on how to beat the Stray demon?
Yes, you require a Very Large Ember, or something like that, but I don't remember where you get it at, sorry :(
As for the stray demon, the easymode/cheap way of killing him is to get the Bandit's Knife (Lower Undead Burg assassins drop it, Theives start with it). Bleed rips him apart every three hits, and the Bandit's Knife has an incredibly fast attack speed. This also works for Demon Firesage, later on in Demon's Ruins. Alternatively, if no bandit knives are dropping and you don't mind a little sin, kill the Undead Merchant for Yulia. Love that katana.
As for me, I'm stuck at Sen's Fortress again; My dragon Character has 10 Vit/11 End as of now, as I am trying to get the requirements for the Non-cursed Greatsword of Astoria, which means alot of my souls have gone into levels. Need to grind more to get the Elite Knight armor up, and figure out which weapon I want to use.
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
Very Large Ember can be found in New Londo, after draining the water.
As for you, Slarg, you really need to consider increasing your endurance. I'm assuming you're building for the Dragon build you posted on the last page. The Greatsword of Artorias, regardless of which version, just isn't very good unless you max yourself out, and even then, it only gets worse once you realize you can't enchant it. If you want to use the dragon build, I'd recommend using one of the more mundane weapons, like an estoc, claymore, greatscythe, or zweihander.
Fafnir wrote:Very Large Ember can be found in New Londo, after draining the water.
As for you, Slarg, you really need to consider increasing your endurance. I'm assuming you're building for the Dragon build you posted on the last page. The Greatsword of Artorias, regardless of which version, just isn't very good unless you max yourself out, and even then, it only gets worse once you realize you can't enchant it. If you want to use the dragon build, I'd recommend using one of the more mundane weapons, like an estoc, claymore, greatscythe, or zweihander.
It will be increased; I'm just trying to get the weapon stats right now. Isn't the GoA regarded as the strongest weapon in the game when you max yourself out? Planning on Darkmooning it, so level won't be a problem.
Also, found the coolest PVP spot guys. Right before Ceaseless Discharge, there is a gaint bridge, with the Gate to the boss and then a Gate right next to the Egg People. This bridge has excellent lighting, and it's fairly well suited to an epic "Neither side can afford to leave" type of thing. Also, because of where it is, it's pretty hard to get invaded or invade someone whom your not trying to get at.
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
Anyone got any tips for Seath? I already knew about him the first time, but I proceeded to get destroyed after I went into the crystal cave. Once I beat him I will check out Anor Londo and grab that ember.
New Londo, not Anor Londo; New Londo is directly underneath Firelink Shrine, what with all the ghosts.
As for Seath, He's an absolute pushover once you get the rythm down. Just get yourself light enough to run around his outer tails and start attacking his middle tail (doesn't have to be the tip), as long as you can avoid his Tail Bashes, he's incredibly easy to take down.
Also, I don't understand why he had three tails.....
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
Just beat Ornestein and Fatty on NG++ solo. I have always wanted to try it YAY.
And I just want to say, before I didn't realize not all shields are 100% physical block,
that explained why I get 1 shotted by bosses (with my low vit and indurance -.- )
So I made a post on another forum as to how to make Dragon Souls or whatever the. singlemost. bestest. game. EVER. Mix it with Shadow of the Colossus. Let's face it, Dark Soul's bosses are incredibly weak; you kill Ceaseless Discharge by breaking his finger..... Imagine Demon Ruins ending with this fight, instead of Centipede demon:
Or perhaps this instead of Fatty and Slim for Anor Londo:
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
@Luna: NG++ and you DIDN'T REALIZE THAT SHIELDS CAN HAVE 100% DAMAGE REDUCTION!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Man, that must have been absolutely brutal. I can't even imagine doing that on even one playthrough.
Going to fight Seath now... We'll see how easy it is this time...
As for the stats thing, I'm SL 46 and I only have 12 vit and 14 endurance. It's not that bad; you just need to be good at rolling or have a really awesome shield.
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virx67 wrote:@Luna: NG++ and you DIDN'T REALIZE THAT SHIELDS CAN HAVE 100% DAMAGE REDUCTION!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Man, that must have been absolutely brutal. I can't even imagine doing that on even one playthrough.
Going to fight Seath now... We'll see how easy it is this time...
As for the stats thing, I'm SL 46 and I only have 12 vit and 14 endurance. It's not that bad; you just need to be good at rolling or have a really awesome shield.
Nono I realize that after I passed the game first time and then started pumping endurance.
I also didn;t know vit boosts by TONS when you keep adding them.
But before it was still ok, I usually play glasscannons in games, so dodging and hitting hard is normal for me.
*edit, before I dont use shields to block, I use shields to parry and counter attack .
But now its so easy with block it feels like cheating xD
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I bought this a while ago.. I'm currently in the Undead Cathedral, facing off against a few knights and that annoying mage who hangs around the rafters. Time hasn't been good to my muscle memory/intuition with this game, and I feel like an utter newb each time I try to re-pick it up, leading to me feeling like not playing at all. >.<
I went with a Barbarian. Currently using fairly 'standard' gear, I think.. I managed to nab the Ring in the ghetto from the Black Knight though, after many an attempt.
Anyway.. You guys are making me envious in skills/loot.
Winterkit wrote:I bought this a while ago.. I'm currently in the Undead Cathedral, facing off against a few knights and that annoying mage who hangs around the rafters. Time hasn't been good to my muscle memory/intuition with this game, and I feel like an utter newb each time I try to re-pick it up, leading to me feeling like not playing at all. >.<
I went with a Barbarian. Currently using fairly 'standard' gear, I think.. I managed to nab the Ring in the ghetto from the Black Knight though, after many an attempt.
Anyway.. You guys are making me envious in skills/loot.
Keep an eye out on you current weight.
you have certain speed at 50% and 25% weight.
Everyone has different play style, maybe you would do better do lightening fast dodging instead of
damage reducing heavy armor.
Armour is not entirely important in this game. It helps, but focus on keeping yourself mobile. If you're above 50% equip burden, you're doing it wrong.
Agreed; even though rolling isn't as good as Demon Souls, keep your burden between 25% and 50% and just practice rolling. There are times when you'll be one shotted if you block, but if you roll, it won't matter as it won't even hit you. Also, if you aren't having fun, then just create a character with each class and just play each until you find the one you have the most fun with. For instance, I was bored using a pyromancer/heavy sword build, but am having a blast using the estoc and magic buff build that Fafnir posted earlier.
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PvP with that build is also pretty intense. Once you get a Hornet's Ring, you really get in business. You can easily OHKO most people with a single backstab that way, especially after casting CMW.
Once you hit level 120-125, if you get into PvP, you should be killing people with 2 backstabs.
A note on CMW: The damage from CMW is always constant, and is in no way affected by your weapon or the type of attack you're using (for example, the damage done by CMW will be the same, even if done from the backstab of a maxed out Great Club and a poke from an unaugmented Ricard's Rapier). For that reason, weapons with good, fast pokes are recommended for people that intend on abusing CMW.
Also note that this applies to every single weapon enchantment (Darkmoon Blade, Sunlight Blade, etc.).
Power Within constantly saps your health based on a percentage, with the amount of health drained increasing as the pyromancy flame is upgraded (an unaugmented pyro flame will sap an amount equal to your maximum health). Regardless of the level of the flame you're using however, the damage bonus from Power Within is always the same: any damage you directly inflict is multiplied by 1.5. For this reason, if you want to use Power Within, always use an unaugmented pyro flame.
I believe that the dragon form roar also multiplies your damage by 1.5, but I can't be sure, since I've never used it.
So I just got through Fatty and Slim, Stray Demon, Gaping dragon, lowered the water in New Londo, killed Sif, killed Priscilla, bought all the spells from Logan, and got the estoc up to +15, yet Seath still kills me; though it's mainly the tail smash that gets me. So I guess my question is, is chopping his middle tail off worth it? If I ignore it, I'm pretty sure it'll be an easy fight.
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virx67 wrote:So I just got through Fatty and Slim, Stray Demon, Gaping dragon, lowered the water in New Londo, killed Sif, killed Priscilla, bought all the spells from Logan, and got the estoc up to +15, yet Seath still kills me; though it's mainly the tail smash that gets me. So I guess my question is, is chopping his middle tail off worth it? If I ignore it, I'm pretty sure it'll be an easy fight.
Yesh the tail mashing is annoying if you are a mage build ( unfortunately that drops a mage weapon! )
Supposedly if you stand by his life crystal and wait for Seath to blow itself up, you can start running ( to his tail ) as he is temporary stunned.
Though I sort of forgot which section of the tail you are supposed to chop, or Im just not chopping hard enough, I had to play catch the mouse for almost 11 minutes
till I finally got behind it and snipped it off -_-
If you dont need the tail just range attack it to death, or run in for some heavy attacks after his AOE breath
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virx67 wrote:So I just got through Fatty and Slim, Stray Demon, Gaping dragon, lowered the water in New Londo, killed Sif, killed Priscilla, bought all the spells from Logan, and got the estoc up to +15, yet Seath still kills me; though it's mainly the tail smash that gets me. So I guess my question is, is chopping his middle tail off worth it? If I ignore it, I'm pretty sure it'll be an easy fight.
Unless you're planning on using the Moonlight Greatsword, then no, it's not worth it.
Fortunately for my mage I had summoned 2 people to help. One of them immediately cut off the tail then 3 shot Seath.
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So I stopped trying to cut off the middle tail, and I killed him without even getting hit once. He was almost as bad as the Gaping Dragon, difficulty-wise.
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Prepare to die, always upgrade your estus flasks whenever possible, learn to backstab (then riposte, but backstabbing is generally safer.) Also, go slowly while you're learning, but you also might want to be able to do sucide/speed runs too. Finally, try out each class and then pick the one you had the most fun with and look up builds that match that playstyle. You might want to also pick up the Drake sword when you first start playing.
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Rabtorian wrote:I ordered this game and it should arrive tomorrow. Any tips before I get it?
Some shields can block 100% physical damage
but you need enough endurance to support the hit or else the hit will go through
the higher the shield stabality, the less endurance each block uses.
slower run speed at 25% weight
even slower at 50% and above
armor is double edged sword and penalizes you in this game.
armor protects you when you make a mistake
yet the more it protects you, the heavier it is, the slower you move = more mistake you make -_-
Honestly, I think that with how much I have played it as of now, holding B to block (or whatever) would just feel wierd.
Rabtorian wrote:I ordered this game and it should arrive tomorrow. Any tips before I get it?
1) This game doesn't tell you jack gak; make the Wiki your best friend, but BEWARE of looking up easy ways to kill bosses; almost every boss has one, and it honestly takes away a lot of the fun (The best fight in the game was probably the first non tutorial boss, the Taurus Demon; you fight him on something just wide enough to hold you and he. It took me three hours to kill him, but when I finally did.... that was the first time I have ever jumped up and down screaming "BOOO-FETHING-YA MOTHER FETHER! YOU WANT SOME MORE?!? COME GET SOME MORE!?!" Seriously; this game is frustrating as hell, but it's very well worth it if you stick with it.
2) Don't get frustrated. Do. Not. Get. Frustrated. You are going to die in the dumbest, pettiest, WORST ways imaginable, from enemies with one hit kill grapples (thankfully easy to see coming and dodge, but that first time....), to running past an enemy into another enemy, get sandviched, and die a prolonged death that you can do nothing about. You will carry around 30000 souls only to die, which causes you to lose all of them but gives you a chance to reclaim them in your next life, walk two feet out of the spawn, fall to your death on a bridge that's wide enough for three people, and lose EVERYTHING. Every Dark Souls player has had that happen, it's just something you have to laugh off.
3) Learn from your mistakes; when you die, most of the time it was your fault. You didn't see the attack coming. You didn't check behind that door. That chest was a damned Mimic (Haven't talked to a player yet that doesn't hate these bastards). If a boss keeps killing you with the same move, start trying to figure out why he uses that move, and also start figuring out how to avoid it.
4) Upgrade your equipment. Dark Souls uses a DnD style upgrade system (Broadsword +1, Broadsword +5, yada yada). A broadsword +5 at strength 14 is doing a whole lot more damage than an unupgraded Zweihander at strength 28. There are reasons people are able to run through the game at level 1; Levels help, but Equipment is much, much better.
5) Never play Human. The only time you should ever be Human is when you Kindle Bonfires (increases the number of healing potions you get per "life"), otherwise be prepared to get invaded by people who are potentially 10 levels bigger than you with +15 gear, killing you in one hit. For the first playthrough, it is much better to be Undead.
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