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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/10 04:21:05
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Still fighting the temptation to add more to my pledge...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/10 11:15:21
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Glad to see it coming soon !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/10 16:23:51
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Omnious Orc Shaman
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...
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I really need to think about closing my pledge manager... I'm actually not overly interested in the boardgame or wargame, I'm in it for the models...
Anywho, found this on Yahoo
Aliens Stars Reunite After 28 Years
Weaver, Paxton, Biehn, Reiser and even the girl who played Newt got together for reunion.
By Ben Arnold | Yahoo Movies UK – 22 hours ago
Yahoo UK Movies News - Aliens... crew reunite after 28 years (Copyright: Calgary Comic and Entertainment Expo)
They mostly come at night... or for an expo in Calgary.
The stars of benchmark space-horror 'Aliens' reunited recently for the Comic and Entertainment Expo in Calgary.
All the top names turned out, including Sigourney Weaver, Michael Biehn, Bill Paxton, Paul Reiser, Lance Henriksen, Jenette Goldstein and even Carrie Henn, who played the traumatised six-year-old ferrel survivor Newt.
Said Biehn: “You just kind of fall into the same personalities, the same friendships, the same thing we had 25 years ago.
“I was saying to myself ‘It’s like time hasn’t changed. Everybody looks good, everybody is taking care of themselves.’ And then I looked over and saw Newt, the little girl, who is also 25 years older. It kind of brought me back to ‘Oh yeah, it has been quite a while'.”
But what have they all been up to for the past 28 years?
Carrie Henn
Newt... Carrie Henn has not acted since her debut (Copyright: Fox/Calgary Comic and Entertainment Expo)
Carrie, who played Newt way back then, had never acted before 'Aliens'. And she never acted again afterwards either. She gained a degree in Liberal Studies and child development in 2000, and today works as a school teacher in Atwater, California.
Sigourney Weaver
(Credit: 20th Century Fox/Flickr Calgaryexpo)
Ripley herself has maintained her Hollywood chops, either as cigarette-smoking exobiologist Grace Augustine in 'Avatar' or in tense indie 'Rampart' with Woody Harrelson. Next up she's going to be in Neill 'District 9' Blomkamp's 'Chappie', with Sharlto Copley, Hugh Jackman and Dev Patel.
Michael Biehn
(Credit: 20th Century Fox/Flickr Calgaryexpo)
Biehn never quite capitalised on his leading man status, despite 80s and 90s hits like 'Aliens', 'Terminator' and 'The Abyss'. Mostly b-movies littered his CV after those blockbusters, though he now also directs, in recent years helming thrillers 'The Blue Bond' and 'The Victim'.
Bill Paxton
(Credit: 20th Century Fox/Flickr Calgaryexpo)
As gun-toting blabbermouth Hudson, Paxton's descent into abject terror in 'Aliens' was deeply satisfying. He's continued to turn in decent work, recently in big budget wild west mini-series 'Hatfields & McCoys'. Coming up, you'll spot him in Tom Cruise sci-fi actioner 'Edge of Tomorrow' and 'Million Dollar Arm' with John Hamm.
Paul Reiser
(Credit: 20th Century Fox/Flickr Calgaryexpo)
The career of musician and former stand-up Paul Reiser (the weasel-ey Carter Burke) can best be described as 'a bit patchy'. On the up side he was in 'Curb Your Enthusiasm'. On the down side, 'The Paul Reiser Show', which aped 'Curb Your Enthusiasm', was hammered by critics and axed after two episodes. He's probably still best known outside 'Aliens' for playing Paul Buchman in long-running series 'Mad About You'.
Lance Henriksen
(Credit: 20th Century Fox/Flickr Calgaryexpo)
The android filled with milky goo, Lance is something of a cult legend, so all the hundreds of b-movies he's done since 1986 are very much part of the charm. He's pitched up in a few of 'mock-buster' movies, courtesy of studio The Asylum, including 'The Da Vinci Treasure' and 'Pirates of Treasure Island'. Those dulcet tones can be heard on many a video game too, from 'Call of Duty' to 'Mass Effect'.
Jenette Goldstein
(Credit: 20th Century Fox/Flickr Calgaryexpo)
Playing gung-ho Private Vasquez, Goldstein was still doing the odd bit of film work up to 2008, with small (sometimes very small) roles in 'Titanic' and 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas'. Not so small is the basis of her current profession, running Jenette Bras, a store on Melrose Avenue in Los Angeles specialising in plus-size brassieres. Its slogan is 'The alphabet starts at D'.
Mark Rolston
( Credit: 20th Century Fox/Flickr calgaryexpo)
Mark followed up his appearance as the trigger-happy Drake in 'Aliens' with parts in 'Lethal Weapon 2', 'RoboCop 2', and 'Eraser', but he was more recently seen in Martin Scorsese's Oscar-winning 'The Departed'. He's an in-demand voice actor, and has appeared in countless video games and animated shows.
Ricco Ross
(Credit: 20th Century Fox/Flickr calgaryexpo)
Chicago-born actor Ross rose to fame in TV's 'Hill Street Blues' before playing Private Frost in 'Aliens'. He stayed in the UK for many years after shooting James Cameron's sequel, appearing in a number of television shows including 'Doctor Who', 'Jeeves and Wooster' and 'The Bill'. He now appears in a steady stream on TV shows and commercials.
https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/aliens-stars-reunite-after-28-years-122202749.html
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/10 18:32:25
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Martial Arts SAS
United Kingdom
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I think the only people I didn't recognise were Reiser and Henn. On a semi related note it's been great to see Paxton on the screen again in Agents of SHIELD.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/11 14:34:59
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Really like Bill Paxton, he's a good actor and has been in some great movies; True Lies, Predator 2, Near Dark, erm.. Titanic. He's also the only person to have been killed on screen by a Terminator, Alien and Predator!
Thanks very much for posting that Ruglud!
Can you imagine how awesome it would be if you found out your school teacher was Newt in Aliens?!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/11 17:19:41
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Martial Arts SAS
United Kingdom
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Hey, don't forget Twister! That was a pretty cool film, even if it didn't have any aliens in it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 15:36:56
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yeah,
sad news.
Alien designer HR Giger dies at 74
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27390345
The Swiss artist and designer of Ridley Scott's Alien, H. R. Giger, has died aged 74, a spokesperson at Giger's museum in Gruyere has confirmed.
He died in hospital on Monday after he fell down stairs at his Zurich home.
Born in 1940, Giger was best known for his 'Xenomorph' alien in Scott's sci-fi horror masterpiece for which he won a visual effects Oscar in 1980.
He studied architecture and industrial design in Zurich and was known for creating strange dreamscapes.
Meticulously detailed, Giger's surrealist paintings were usually produced in large formats and then reworked with an airbrush and usually feature scenes of humans and machines fused together.
Giger described his style as "biomechanical".
One of his pieces in particular - Necronom IV - inspired the alien killer in Sir Ridley's hit film.
He also worked on Aliens 3 (1992) and, more recently, appeared in a documentary about director Alejandro Jodorowsky's unmade film of the book Dune.
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Panic...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 19:07:27
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
*bursts though room with axe* HEEEAAARRRS JHONNY!!!
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RIP, he was a good artist.
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Night Lords (40k): 3500pts
Klan Zaw Klan: 4000pts
Whatever you use.. It's Cheesy, broken and OP |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/15 01:33:37
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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Can someone post the latest update here please?
I hate it that Prodos makes most of it's updates "backer only", as I bought into it after the KS so I can't read them until someone posts it here...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/15 06:50:50
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Yep hold on, I've just got out of bed!
Project Update #53
Hi there, quick update today the Prodos team is going to visit printing company tomorrow to work out the board game delivery schedule. Due to some negative comments about delay we would like to highlight process that we have to follow in order to make the boardgame reality.
There are several major steps we have to follow to get this license into production: the Major ones are:
1. Concept approval - once all board game graphics are approved we can then make physical game prototype (this is the step we are at the moment) it takes around 14 days (currently half way through – making temporary cutting tool for board game tiles and tokens), once the prototype is approved we can then place move on to mass production, but before that happens we have to:
A . We must have physical approved board game tiles so we can take pictures for game box and board game rules (missions set up examples) plus incorporating them into document, and then send it off to print. (3 Weeks)
B. Have approved and painted miniatures for photo for game rules. (this is an ongoing process done side by side with prototype approvals)
C. Have all board game components approved (dice ect). (this is an ongoing process done side by side with prototype approvals)
D. Manufacture required models for bard game (In the process and should take 4 weeks to be completed).
E. Design cutting tools for board game tiles (this should take about 2 weeks after the prototypes are approved)
2. Mass production – the next step is to get to line up several companies delivery schedules for the board game subcomponents (currently this is at 4 to 5 weeks, but we are in discussions with printing company to speed up this process down to 3 weeks).
Please bear in mind, this is a licensed product and not our own, we have to follow specific approval process and there is no way to take shortcuts, for us; I can tell you that we are full involved in this process and we want it to be completed as soon as possible. The last thing we wanted is to delay the Kickstarter fulfilment dates, we are sorry that things have been delayed.
We would like to thank you for understanding.
The Pledge manager will be closed on the 29th of May.
Also we are having some questions regarding the 3D terrain, I can tell you that due to changes in the rules it determined that we had to increase 3D terrain in size, therefore, new pieces of 3D terrain are now in approval stage, once approved we will share Pictures of the new terrain.
Just a notice in case it happens; we might have to skip next week update as it is more than likely the team will be away sorting out the board game manufacturing.
One final note is we morn the passing of HR Giger the wonderfully creative genius behind the Aliens that we all love and adore.
Here is Prodos Games tribute to HR Giger: (pics of early WIP of game cards):
Regards Prodos Games
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/16 11:45:55
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Omnious Orc Shaman
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...
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29 May - wonder if the rules will be available to preview by then for those who have been waiting...
All I'm waiting on are renders or casts of the Pred Youngbloods - I have £10 credit left and thinking of going with these and adding the extra cash...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/16 11:53:43
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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Thanks Pacific!
As for the lack of rules, I remember during the campaign Prodos said they would have rules and army construction info up before the end of the funding period...
I'm sure they'll be fine though!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/23 06:15:13
Subject: Colonial marines add-on
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I'm about to finish my pledge and was wondering if anyone has any info on the colonial Marines add on. Are they different body, face and pose sculpts or just extra pieces. I have two copies of the box already so don't want to add them unless they look different. If there are any pics of the add on marines can you please link to them. Thanks in advance
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/23 07:45:29
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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I don't have any pics, but going on the descriptions on the KS (in the add-on section)
5x Multi part Colonial Marines. Models made from urethane plastic.
5x Multi part Colonial Marines from the Boxed Game. Models made from urethane plastic.
Different weapon loadouts, image and they mention that the one set are the same as the box set contents - going on those three things, I would assume they are probably different miniatures for the one add-on set.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/23 08:01:28
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hmmm well I guess it's ketchup soup this month for me
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/23 13:51:36
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
*bursts though room with axe* HEEEAAARRRS JHONNY!!!
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So are those prices meant to be for retail? If so I think they maybe looking at a small-battle wargame simliar to WM/H in terms of model count.. That I like
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Night Lords (40k): 3500pts
Klan Zaw Klan: 4000pts
Whatever you use.. It's Cheesy, broken and OP |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/23 17:05:18
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Update #54, some of the points values for the rules:
Hi all, just a quick update as the Team is still in busy with board game game's printing schedule (more info in next update)
1. The Points per model:
As requested, here you have the points per model and army construction rules for the Advanced Board Game rules (please note Wargame points per model may vary [roughly +-10%] due to a different balancing system in place).
Advanced rules - Board Game models Points cost:
Advanced Board Game: minimum 250 points (500 pts recommended for 2-4h play)
Wargame: minimum 500 pts (1000 pts recommended for 2-4h play)
USCM
Max Squad Level ( LVL): 4 (each model in the squad must be at the same LVL except for Squad Upgrades ( HQ or Sergeant)
Squad Coherency: (1 Segment (Tile))
Max Squad: Squads between 5-8 models for Troop Type, 1-3 models for Support Type, 0-1 models for HQ.
Battle Group composition: 1 to 2 HQ + 2 to 5 Troop type, 0 to 3 Support, 0-2 Vehicles (not available yet)
Troop Type:
Colonial Marine: 10 pts per model for LVL 1 +10 pts per LVL, max. 1 Squad with LVL 2 and above per Battle Group. (Free Squad composition: up to 1 Heavy Weapon (Smart Gun) up to 2 Special weapons (Flamer, Scanner).
Sergeant upgrade: 35 pts per model LVL 1 + 15 pts per LVL. Max. 1 Sergeant with LVL 2 and above per Battle Group.
Weyland-Yutani Commandos: 35pts per model (always starts game at LVL1) (squad composition, up to 3 Heavy Weapons (Smart Guns) up to 3 Special Weapons).
Example: 7 Marines at LVL 1 = 70pts + Sergeant at 50pts ( LVL 2), 5 Weyland-Yutani Commandos at 175pts= 295 pts in total.
Support Type Power Loader: 75 pts for LVL1, + 35 per LVL, (limited to only one squad at LVL 2 and above)
Sentry Guns: 35 per Gun (cannot gain Experience or LVL), may be carried by Power Loader or set up using Infiltrate rules during the Deployment Phase.
HQ Type:
Captain: (“Make your own Hero” rules – between 75 to 100 pts depending on Hero’s type).
Major: (“Make your own Hero” rules – between 110 to 185 pts depending on Hero’s type).
Colonel: (“Make your own Hero” rules – between 195 to 250 pts depending on Hero’s type).
Major Dutch Schaefer : 275 pts
Lieutenant Linn Kurosawa :255 pts
Aliens:
Max Squad Level ( LVL): 4 (Hive Experience: Aliens always start the game at LVL1. For every 10 experience points gained, the Hive (every model) Level Up).
Squad Coherency: (1 Segment (Tile)) Max Squad: No restrictions (SEE Segment occupation rules)
Hive composition: Troop types – at least 50% of total Hive points, 0 – 50% Support, 1 - 2 HQ.
Troop Type: Facehuggers: 5 pts per model
Infant Warrior: 12 pts per model
Stalker: 15 pts per model
Support Type:
Alien Warriors: 22 pts per model
Alien Crusher: 175 pts
Royal Guard: 100 pts
HQ Type:
Royal Guard (with Hive Guard upgrade): 120 pts
Predalien: 175pts
Queen: 275 pts
Alien Warrior: (“Make your own Hero” rules – between 75 to 100 pts)
Example: A Squad can be constructed with: 3x Facehuggers, 2x Infant Warriors 3x Stalkers (in total 8 occupation points) or [as per Segment occupation rules]: 3x Facehuggers, 1 x Stalker, 2x Alien Warriors (4x models on Small bases + 2 models on Medium bases in total 8 Occupation points). Squads are defined during deployment, not during army construction.
Predators
Max Hunt Pack Level ( LVL): 4 Hunt Pack Coherency: (1 Segment (Tile)) –each model in a Hunt Pack acts as Individual Squad and is activated separately.
Max Squad: one Model per Hunt Pack (unless stated otherwise), 0-1 For HQ.
Hunt Pack composition: 1 to 2 Elders + 2 to 6 Hunt Packs, 0-2 Vehicles (not available yet)
Hunt Pack:
Predator Warrior – 65 pts + 45 pts per LVL
Predator Hunter – 55 pts +40 pts per LVL
Female Predator – 55 pts + 40 per LVL
Young Bloods (can take up to 3 Young Bloods per Hunt Pack) – 30 per model + 20 per LVL
Predator Hellhounds (can take up to 6 Hellhounds per Hunt Pack) – 20 per model – cannot gain LVLs)
Berserker – 125 pts + 60 per LVL
Elders
Berserker (with Elder upgrade) (“Make your own Hero” rules – between 150 to 250 pts depending on Hero’s type, equipment).
Predator Warrior (with Elder Upgrade) (“Make your own Hero” rules – between 100 to 250 pts depending on Hero’s type, equipment).
Female Predator (with Elder Upgrade) (“Make your own Hero” rules – between 100 to 250 pts depending on Hero’s type, equipment).
Segment occupation Rules: depending on the base a model is on, each model takes up space on the game tile (Segment), the maximum occupation per tile is 8 points: -
- Models on Small bases (30mm ) takes 1 Occupation point
- Models on Medium Bases (40mm) takes 2 Occupation points
- Models on Large bases (50mm) takes 4 occupation points
- Models on bases larger 50mm takes 8 occupation points
Size of the Board Game:
During our play-testing of the missions, we made this simple example of the game board (before the graphics were made). It's mocked up with tiles exactly the same as what comes in the Board Game Set.... the total size is 65" x 65" (in game design terms each tile' footprint is 5" x 5" square... (We hope you have large tables to play on!).
and snapshot of all tiles/tokens
Please note that these are not to scale!
Thanks again for reading, we look forward to updating you next week!
Prodos Games LTD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/23 23:24:27
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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Awesome update!
But why the hell are Alien Warriors "support" and not "troops"?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/24 07:31:18
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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I wonder if you have to have a balance between troops/support (like some kind of Force allocation chart) or it just effects what can be used in different scenarios etc.?
Interesting that the points cost gives some idea of general efficacy of different units.
Marines - 10pts
Alien warrior - 22pts
Predator hunter - 65pts
Like the sound of the 'make your own hero' rules as well!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/24 10:02:59
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Omnious Orc Shaman
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...
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I still need to see what the Youngblood Preds look like before I close my Pledge...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/25 11:15:50
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Oberstleutnant
Back in the English morass
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Pacific wrote:
Like the sound of the 'make your own hero' rules as well!
Warzone already has them so I assume that the same system will be ported over.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
Warzone Plog |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 07:55:39
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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That mock tile set up. Is that what one set of tiles gets your, or is that two sets of tiles?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 17:35:17
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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From the description I would guess what comes in the one board game set, although can't be sure.
Think I went for the board game + a couple of the other KS board options as extras, so am happy if that is the case.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 19:14:40
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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Anyone else just receive an invitation to the kickstarter survey? I've already locked my pledge in. Or so I thought?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 19:33:19
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yep just got an invite mines a long time locked and finished - I was just going to wait and see if they do an update to explain it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 19:42:23
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Yeah, I sold my pledge but have been keeping tabs on the updates since they still go to my email, and I got this, as well. If they clarify in the comments why it went out I'd love to know...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 19:46:46
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ah it's a reminder the Pm closes this week.
Creator Prodos Games Ltd 12 minutes ago
@All, you may just ignore the email (or link), it's just a reminder, the PM will be closed by us some point this week and its the last chance to modify it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:16:42
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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DaveC wrote:Ah it's a reminder the Pm closes this week.
Creator Prodos Games Ltd 12 minutes ago
@All, you may just ignore the email (or link), it's just a reminder, the PM will be closed by us some point this week and its the last chance to modify it.
Ah, thanks for that!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/29 11:45:27
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
Berlin
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I received the mail also, worst thing, the linked website is reported as a phishing site from IE11!
So I presume that nothing is to do if the survey info was already provided?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/29 14:34:35
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I think the bigger problem is that you're using IE11.
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