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In my opinion, the biggest problem with the United States is that people no longer trust our government. The federal government has lost all of it's credibility, lies to the people, doesn't represent the people, and is far too powerful. Back in the 1700s and 1800s people trusted the government and the government didn't have all of these conspiracies they were performing against the American people. Our elected officials actually cared and were real people like you and me, not people like Obama or Bush or any of these clowns in Congress.

And to be honest, the people are partially responsible for this. Yes, it is important for the federal government to have some power, as to preserve the union, but we're hardly a union anymore, now we're just a single nation-state just like Russia or France. We're not a union or a confederation. People rely on the federal government for everything, instead of relying on their state governments.

The Constitution is a joke now, it's a wonderful document, but our own government only abides by it when it is convenient for them to do so. They have the CIA out there killing our own people simply because they "know too much," we have wiretapping and the Patriot Act. We have them keeping secrets from us and committing acts that are detrimental to the lives of Americans. We have horrible liberals who want to ban guns. We have abusive police forces and corrupt public officials who don't listen to the people. We need an honest government again, one that fully understands and respects the Constitution and that is by the people and for the people.

The USA existed for less than 30 years in the 1700s, and in the 1800s you had a civil war...

You guys don't look like you're doing too badly from where I'm sitting.

Albatross wrote:The USA existed for less than 10 years in the 1700s, and in the 1800s you had a civil war...

You guys don't look like you're doing too badly from where I'm sitting.

10 years? wtf?

In before the lock.

None of this is new, or specific. Americans haven't trusted their government since they were English colonist, often with very good reason. Corruption was huge in the centuries you're pointing towards- just look at the reign of President Ulysses S. Grant.

The whole power of the federal government issue was settled in a something you may remember as the civil war, which was fought over states rights.

The constitution was intended to keep government power out of the hands of any one person and to guaruntee individual rights. In these two goals, it has succeeded.

We were so much more honorable when we were busy fighting the Mexicans in open war, or when President James K. Polk was busy threatening Canada to back off to the 54th parallell or we would fight them.

It is good that you are aware of how hideously corrupt our government is- but it has always been such, and always will. The problem with politics is it's full of politicians!

samusaran253 wrote: Our elected officials actually cared and were real people like you and me, not people like Obama or Bush or any of these clowns in Congress.

you should really look into your founding fathers' personal and political lives and see if you can make that statement again.

Pretty much what Gitzbitah said. I'll add that the simple fact that we sit passively while our elected representative snatch up all the loose change that special interests throw their way doesn't help to solve any of our collective issues. Legal bribery! yeah!

Doesn't Fox News have a message board?

Some of you may want to look into this.

samusaran253 wrote:

Albatross wrote:The USA existed for less than 10 years in the 1700s, and in the 1800s you had a civil war...

You guys don't look like you're doing too badly from where I'm sitting.

10 years? wtf?

Yeah, my bad - I changed it. I was thinking of when the Bill of Rights was ratified.

Manchu wrote:Doesn't Fox News have a message board?

Some of you may want to look into this.

Is this the official MOD position, that conservative views are not welcome on Dakka?

biccat wrote:

Manchu wrote:Doesn't Fox News have a message board?

Some of you may want to look into this.

Is this the official MOD position, that conservative views are not welcome on Dakka?

You're a lawyer, you don't count.

Whats wrong with The United States? Kids that think they know whats wrong with The United States!

Lol. The official position of THIS mod is that political discussions in the Off-Topic forum are a waste of time and space and are only allowed to go on at all -- as opposed to taking place on sites devoted to them instead of toy soldiers -- so that it doesn't spill over like an overflowing septic tank into the on-topic sub-fora.

Tigerone wrote:Whats wrong with The Uninted States?

Speling.

Tigerone wrote:Whats wrong with The Uninted States? Kids that think they know whats wrong with The United States!

I'm not under 13. Hell, I'm not even under 18, but even if I was, would that automatically render any argument I made void in the eyes of the moderators here?

Albatross wrote:

Tigerone wrote:Whats wrong with The Uninted States?

Speling.

Do you mean spelling?

Can there please be a limit to the number of threads a member can make per week or something? Or at least just for one particular member?

Typo!

That seems like a good idea, actually.

I am convinced it would solve most, if not all, of America's problems.

Gorechild wrote:

Albatross wrote:

Tigerone wrote:Whats wrong with The Uninted States?

Speling.

Do you mean spelling?

I am wasted on you people....

Albatross
I thought it was funny!

Manchu wrote:That seems like a good idea, actually.

That's a horrible idea.

Manchu wrote:That seems like a good idea, actually.

Seconded.

corpsesarefun wrote:

Manchu wrote:That seems like a good idea, actually.

Seconded.

Maybe you should get banned.

Countdown to meltdown 3.....2......1....

samusaran253 wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

Manchu wrote:That seems like a good idea, actually.

Seconded.

Maybe you should get banned.

Seeing as I rarely post threads, don't spam and have been a member since 2008 I don't think so.

Tigerone wrote:Countdown to meltdown 3.....2......1....

BLAME THE VICTIM!

samusaran253 wrote:In my opinion, the biggest problem with the United States is that people no longer trust our government. The federal government has lost all of it's credibility, lies to the people, doesn't represent the people, and is far too powerful. Back in the 1700s and 1800s people trusted the government and the government didn't have all of these conspiracies they were performing against the American people. Our elected officials actually cared and were real people like you and me, not people like Obama or Bush or any of these clowns in Congress.

And to be honest, the people are partially responsible for this. Yes, it is important for the federal government to have some power, as to preserve the union, but we're hardly a union anymore, now we're just a single nation-state just like Russia or France. We're not a union or a confederation. People rely on the federal government for everything, instead of relying on their state governments.

The Constitution is a joke now, it's a wonderful document, but our own government only abides by it when it is convenient for them to do so. They have the CIA out there killing our own people simply because they "know too much," we have wiretapping and the Patriot Act. We have them keeping secrets from us and committing acts that are detrimental to the lives of Americans. We have horrible liberals who want to ban guns. We have abusive police forces and corrupt public officials who don't listen to the people. We need an honest government again, one that fully understands and respects the Constitution and that is by the people and for the people.

The US government had some equally stupid policies in the past as well you know, segregation laws and alcohol bans come to mind.

Gorechild wrote:

Albatross wrote:

Tigerone wrote:Whats wrong with The Uninted States?

Speling.

Do you mean spelling?

No he ment..
SPELLING!

samusaran253 wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

Manchu wrote:That seems like a good idea, actually.

Seconded.

Maybe you should get banned.

samusaran253 wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

Manchu wrote:That seems like a good idea, actually.

Seconded.

Maybe I should get banned.

I wholeheartedly agree.