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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/20 18:49:29
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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GW won't get the message until the pre-orders for their next pre-release of limited edition (and vac formed) terrain craters (pun intended).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/20 19:02:47
Subject: Re:BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Most of the casting is done in the UK.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/20 19:15:05
Subject: Re:BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Resourceful Gutterscum
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Hey all!
I am about halfway through my project to paint up the Moonscape and Blastscape sets. You can follow my progress (if you care) on my blog.
http://dspaintingblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/moonscape-and-blastscape-part-1.html
http://dspaintingblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/moonscape-and-blastscape-part-2.html
I hope to have my Moonscape set done and posted tonight and the Blastscape done later in the week. I am fairly sure this is off topic as we should only be talikng about how bad the Blastscape is but I hope you will not flog me too badly
Enjoy!
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I am just trying to get my post count up so that people won't think I am a GW sock puppet. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/20 19:30:35
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Bounding Dark Angels Assault Marine
South East USA
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Al the ones we got at the store were of the crappy verity , but people still wanted them...
which I could not believe
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/20 19:37:20
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought
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Kirasu wrote:I expect I'll get a appology letter and a refund, Which I'll put towards either a battlescape or Planetary Emipre Tiles, both of which 'look' Awesome!
I doubt even the chinese fabricators can mess up a bunch of hexagon pieces! Not like you need detail for that
THere are people out there who could foul up a wet dream.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/20 20:27:51
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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hammerofulric wrote:Agamemnon2 wrote:I think buying anything at all from GW is indefensible, whether directly or via discount retailers. I believe the company deserves to die.
And where would the hobby be then? Without a high street company, this hobby would so niche that it would be all but impossible to get into.
In the days before GW, this hobby was a lot easier to get into. There were a lot more general games/miniatures stores around than there are now. I don't know there is a causative link. Automatically Appended Next Post: Nash Trickster wrote:Just contacted the (french) Direct Sales via phone. I was told that they were aware of the problem as some of them had ordered the Blastscape too and were quite disappointed, and that my only option was to get a refund by mailing them the "faulty" item back at my own expense... (Something which wouldn't make much sense to me, since sending it back would, with the prices of the french post, cost me about half the price of the item itself!)
I think I'll pay a visit to my local GW shop, a 5min walk from home, where I'm quite well known by the redshirts, when it opens tomorrow (it's closed on Mondays) and see what they will propose...
Well, unless they propose me a refund "on the spot" then I'll probably keep it just as a reminder never ever to advance order anything from GW again.
You are legally entitled to deliver the defective product to a company shop yourself, and avoid paying postage. There is absolutely no law that you have to post the product back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 03:40:11
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Schepp himself wrote:What, that's not the same model!
Greets
Schepp himself
It could've been remodelled and cleverly painted. For example the red dome on the crashed spaceship capsule looks as if it was set deeper in - that could have been achieved by cutting the original out and placing a plasticard tube and a part of a ping-pong ball within. The engines look hollow on GW display model, but I think it's just an illusion created by clever painting.
What would be the most challenging, for me at least, woud be splitting these rocks nicely, but I suppose the studio guys can deal with that easily.
It may be very well the same model - just painted and converted by a pro. I agree they shouldn't advertise modified terrain pieces as showcase of the product though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 07:40:19
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Wicked Warp Spider
The Webway Gate in California
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My local FLGS had made an announcement about these on the yahoo group email. I went in there today and they had some on floor with other terrain. These things look crappy. When the Bastion and Aegis defense came pit the employees pointed these out to me said they were nice. I didn't even mention the blastscape at all.
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We were masters of the stars once and we shall be again
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 07:51:04
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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I finally saw the cause of all this rabble the other day at my FLGS. I have to agree. They look like garbage. lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 08:38:54
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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I went to my GW this weekend, the dude in there tried to sell me this.
After seeing it in WD I was almost sold on the products, although when he showed it to me, I remarked "Eww, that's really badly vac-formed plastic, I don't want that."
fething terrible. Bad form GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 12:23:45
Subject: Re:BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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[DCM]
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Hey!
I'm glad to see someone making a go of it.
Any chance you could post your efforts in the Painting and Modeling forums? Particularly, the Dakka P&M Blogs Forum?
I really liked the crashed pod piece, but I didn't buy the set after seeing the shoddy final product.
If you can put lipstick on that pig, maybe I'll change my mind!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 12:26:33
Subject: Re:BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Missouri
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Hell, looking at a moonscape crater and a blastscape crater side by side you can still tell the difference. The blastscape crater in the last photo on part 2 looks really "mushy" in comparison.
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Desubot wrote:Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 12:57:51
Subject: Re:BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Manager opened up the latest issue of WD and pointed out the tiny fine-print disclaimer where it says that promotional picures are for display purposes only, and that products may vary from those shown.
Not good enough. The photos are clearly misleading and a little bit of fine print that "products may vary" doesn't excuse it. It's an obvious attempt to fob people off. Simply stating that the photo may not be representative of the actual item does not allow you to advertise something with grossly misleading photos as these are. It's clearly not the same product at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 13:11:03
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Well he fobbed me off, but still gave the refund. I can't exactly complain other than to say I wish it had never come to that in the first place.
I mean, FFS, put them for sale in resin. I'll buy 'em.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 13:13:31
Subject: Re:BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Well, WD's are written well in advance so they probably realized that this would pop up and just go with it.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 14:49:12
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Stealthy Kroot Stalker
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I can understand people being angry that below-standard products are being sold . . . but you can get a refund if you don't like it, so it's not as if they are taking your money away from you forever =]
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3000pts 3500pts Sold =[ 500pts WIP
DS:90S++G++M-B+IPw40k00#+D++A++/fWD-R+++T(S)DM+ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 16:18:16
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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The point is they should be giving us decent products. I mean, I can make vac-formed crap for free, why would I pay for it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 17:23:43
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Regular Dakkanaut
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That isn't the point as no one is forcing you to buy these, Tek.
If you feel they're not up to standard, you could e-mail GW or simply not purchase them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 17:46:01
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Nasty Nob
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Yeah, but then again if people are ill-informed of the product they are purchasing then they are not going to be happy. If i drive x amount of miles to my FLGS, purchase a product, and return home only to find out that I purchased a product that is not the quality product I saw in an advertisement then yeah, I'm going to be pissed. The whole purpose of this thread is to spread the word that GW created a product that does not meet their typical standard.
@Thorgut: What would you have Tek (and others) do? Be silent and hope that over a period of time GW will issue statements regarding the quality and please ask that you had better investigate your product before you take it home.
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"Just pull it out and play with it" -Big Nasty B @ Life After the Cover Save
40k: Orks
Fantasy: Empire, Beastmen, Warriors of Chaos, and Ogre Kingdoms |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 18:59:15
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Fixture of Dakka
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Thorgut wrote:That isn't the point as no one is forcing you to buy these, Tek.
If you feel they're not up to standard, you could e-mail GW or simply not purchase them.
Yes putting fingers in ears works well I hear for getting businesses to change!
Goal = to get GW to produce a higher quality product
Method = get as many people as possible to be angry and email them
By each person silently emailing GW or NOT buying it (which btw is fairly useless form of protest when GW has no idea you were going to buy it in the first place) you're limiting the impact. By posting on a huge message board and gathering LOTS of people you stand a MUCH greater chance of success
Therefore your advice is far from the most effective and thus more people should post in this thread to spread the word
Businesses rarely EVER do the right thing unless forced
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Keeper of the DomBox
Warhammer Armies - Click to see galleries of fully painted armies
32,000, 19,000, Renegades - 10,000 , 7,500, |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 19:22:46
Subject: Re:BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Kirasu, you're taking my point out of context but I'll respond anyway. I am not offering advice on how to get Games Workshop to change how they operate.
I didn't say that ignoring this apparent "problem" is the only way to solve it.
Kirasu wrote:Method = get as many people as possible to be angry and email them
Thorgut wrote:If you feel they're not up to standard, you could e-mail GW...
You seem to have conveniently ignored that part of the sentence.
Businesses rarely EVER do the right thing unless forced
These posts won't force Games Workshop to do anything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 19:25:45
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Grumpy Longbeard
New York
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These posts won't force Games Workshop to do anything.
Hence,
Method = get as many people as possible to be angry and email them
Emphasis mine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 19:28:56
Subject: Re:BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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What's the proper protocol for waiting for an email reply btw? I don't want to come across as the shouting and foaming idiot who is impatient.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 19:52:12
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Fixture of Dakka
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yeah I did say to email them :p Your suggestion was to do it in a vacuum.. Mine was to get LOTS to do it
Magnitude is all that matters when dealing with public companies
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Keeper of the DomBox
Warhammer Armies - Click to see galleries of fully painted armies
32,000, 19,000, Renegades - 10,000 , 7,500, |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 21:32:37
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Kirasu wrote:Your suggestion was to do it in a vacuum.. Mine was to get LOTS to do it
Which is why I said you took my post out of context; thanks for making it that bit clearer.
I was suggesting two options to Tek, not every poster on this forum.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 22:03:53
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yeah,
I let GW know I didn't want sub par products.
I got a refund today.
Panic...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 22:06:10
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Has it already been posted that GW updated the product page?
They've painted one of the "real" ones up rather than a resin copy:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 22:08:25
Subject: Re:BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Oh those sneaky bastards, think they can sneak that one out from under our noses.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 22:18:49
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Pathetic. Rather than admitting fault, they'll just pretend it didn't happen. Now I'm glad I made a profit with my refund.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/21 22:31:08
Subject: BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]
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Long-Range Black Templar Land Speeder Pilot
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You know what that's just plain rude. If i'd seen the pics on thier sites first i would'nt mind the inferior product (Would'nt buy it but would'nt care). Its the false advertising and the messing around thats annoying.
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