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I think we already have cathedrals with legs. We call them Titans.

Personally I'd like to see some Sister Hospitaller. maybe make them like Sanguinary priest, but without the Blood chalice 6" bubble of bull****

Luke_Prowler wrote:I think we already have cathedrals with legs. We call them Titans.

And the Sisters need to be commanding some of those, damnit.

I'd like to see a Sisters variant Sentinel... just so they have a walker that's not the Penitent Engine.

Something like AV12/12/10, left arm has a DCCW, right arm has a heavy flamer. Visually it'd look like a sturdier sentinel with an eviscerator arm on one side and a heavy flamer arm on the other, kinda like a cross between a Sentinel and a small Battlemech.

Slarg232 wrote:

Necrosis wrote:

Manchu wrote:My poor thread.

It could have been far worse.

...... Chaos Sisters could have prevailed.

Whose to say they didn't............bwahhaaahhaa.

Graham D wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:*resists the urge to make a woman+kitchen joke about Sisters*

Didn't quite make it, though, did you?

Ever met any girls that honestly believe they are better than men just because of their sex? What you're doing is like that, only the other way. It's a dickish thing to say that really didn't have to be said.

Its called humor, if you don't have a sense for detecting it, it will fly right over your head. Kanluwen has a sense of humor, it has atrophied due to the kong hours of training and maintaining psychic discipline, but it is still there.
Try nourishing it and it might develop into something that will make you laugh.

Some jokes just aren't funny. Either they're just poorly phrased, or they're on subjects that aren't funny, the person doesn't have the charisma to pull it off, or it's just so overdone that nobody really laughs at it anymore.

Melissia wrote:Some jokes just aren't funny. Either they're just poorly phrased, or they're on subjects that aren't funny, the person doesn't have the charisma to pull it off, or it's just so overdone that nobody really laughs at it anymore.

Kitchen jokes are kinda becoming like "Yo momma" jokes nowadays.....

Slarg232 wrote:
Kitchen jokes are kinda becoming like "Yo momma" jokes nowadays.....

I don't think they are funny what so ever.

Slarg232 wrote:

Melissia wrote:Some jokes just aren't funny. Either they're just poorly phrased, or they're on subjects that aren't funny, the person doesn't have the charisma to pull it off, or it's just so overdone that nobody really laughs at it anymore.

Kitchen jokes are kinda becoming like "Yo momma" jokes nowadays.....

Speaking as a female who plays FPS games online, yes, they are...

Melissia wrote:Some jokes just aren't funny. Either they're just poorly phrased, or they're on subjects that aren't funny, the person doesn't have the charisma to pull it off, or it's just so overdone that nobody really laughs at it anymore.

It was perfectly timed, but poor taste. Apologies.

Now, I think it's time to start brainstorming reinventing Dark Angels...

Kanluwen wrote:
It was perfectly timed, but poor taste. Apologies.

Now, I think it's time to start brainstorming reinventing Dark Angels...

First we should give them a thread.
Then give them almost everything that space marines have.
And then give them a special rules. That would be a start.

Indeed. Dark Angels have waited a long time, too. As have Necrons and Dark Eldar and Grey knights....

Necrosis wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:
Kitchen jokes are kinda becoming like "Yo momma" jokes nowadays.....

I don't think they are funny what so ever.

Exactly, overused. Now, with the right delivery between friends, they can be hilarious, just like "That's what she said", but those are the exception, not the rule.

Melissia wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:

Melissia wrote:Some jokes just aren't funny. Either they're just poorly phrased, or they're on subjects that aren't funny, the person doesn't have the charisma to pull it off, or it's just so overdone that nobody really laughs at it anymore.

Kitchen jokes are kinda becoming like "Yo momma" jokes nowadays.....

Speaking as a female who plays FPS games online, yes, they are...

Since we are already off track, PC or Xbox?

Anyway, back to Sisters:

Since they are going to have to create a fair amount of units to make up for the allies that they could use, they should almost make a unit with stealth suits (Like the Vindicare Assassin, so imperials have the technology). Weither it would be a close combat unit or a sniper team IDK, but it would be kinda cool.

If one of you starts it, I'll post in it. Otherwise it'll be a bit before I get around to posting it as it's now time to go run errands!

So does everyone think SoB are broken? They seem ok to me....

Melissia wrote:All things considered, me moving it back on topic probably saved it.

lolwut

No this thread was not about OTT dream units, whether jousting biker sisters or venerable seraphim or walking cathedrals or anyone's fandex anything, but rather about plausible ways to reform C:WH at a structural level so as to create a better product.

Slarg232 wrote:Since we are already off track, PC or Xbox?

PC, mostly TF2.

As for the infiltrating unit, that's why I created Nightflame Veterans. Originally the Cult of the Nightflame, they went through the most amount of revision to get right, but I like them how they are now.


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Manchu wrote:

Melissia wrote:All things considered, me moving it back on topic probably saved it.

lolwut

No this thread was not about OTT dream units, whether jousting biker sisters or venerable seraphim or walking cathedrals or anyone's fandex anything, but rather about plausible ways to reform C:WH at a structural level so as to create a better product.

In that case I don't want anything to do with it. Screw C:WH, it's a crappy codex. I want a 5th Edition codex, not C:WH+.

Manchu wrote:

Melissia wrote:All things considered, me moving it back on topic probably saved it.

lolwut

No this thread was not about OTT dream units, whether jousting biker sisters or venerable seraphim or walking cathedrals or anyone's fandex anything, but rather about plausible ways to reform C:WH at a structural level so as to create a better product.

*points to space wolves riding wolves*

Necrosis wrote:

Manchu wrote:

Melissia wrote:All things considered, me moving it back on topic probably saved it.

lolwut

No this thread was not about OTT dream units, whether jousting biker sisters or venerable seraphim or walking cathedrals or anyone's fandex anything, but rather about plausible ways to reform C:WH at a structural level so as to create a better product.

*points to space wolves riding wolves*

Truth.

And what does this prove?

That GW is putting in crazy units so a walking Cathedral isn't out of the question.

I don't think Manchu cares. What they want is C:WH+, whereas we are asking for something new and good instead.

At least that's the impression I got from their most recent posts.

Melissia wrote:I don't think Manchu cares. What they want is C:WH+, whereas we are asking for something new and good instead.

At least that's the impression I got from their most recent posts.

Should give him/her a chance.

What did you envision this thread to be, Manchu?

@Melissa: I'm not totally sure who falls into "we" and who falls into "they" in your last post.

@Slarg232: I've laid it out in my previous posts including on this very page.

@Necrosis: Now that I understand your point about Thunderwolves, I admit it's a good one. But there weren't any Thunderbats at least. And dreaming up these kinds of units for Sisters is not really helpful.

"They" would be you, seeing as I don't pretend to know your gender, I used that as a (somewhat incorrect) gender-neutral pronoun. "We" would be myself and Necrosis, to various degrees at any rate.

Dreaming up new units is the BEST way to do a codex. Because it's going to have to be done in order to create a proper fifth edition codex.


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Slarg232 wrote:What did you envision this thread to be, Manchu?

THIS is what he/she wants:

No this thread was not about OTT dream units, whether jousting biker sisters or venerable seraphim or walking cathedrals or anyone's fandex anything, but rather about plausible ways to reform C:WH at a structural level so as to create a better product.

IE, he/she wants Codex: Witch Hunters Plus. I want a fifth edition codex instead.

Manchu wrote:@Slarg232: I've laid it out in my previous posts including on this very page.

Ok, I see what your saying, but still. Just with the fact that they would probably half to cut out at least half the army to truely make an Inquisition Army, and the other half would have to be cut to make a SoB army. I read somewhere, but don't remember where, that GW wanted to completely cut out any form of allies, and that would kinda kill an Inquisition army off. Which, to me, means that they are going to have to focus on SoB, which means more units. Hence the dream units.

Just my 2cents.

(Man, I really need to work on reading other peoples posts better)

focusedfire wrote:Its called humor, if you don't have a sense for detecting it, it will fly right over your head. Kanluwen has a sense of humor, it has atrophied due to the kong hours of training and maintaining psychic discipline, but it is still there.
Try nourishing it and it might develop into something that will make you laugh.

No, what you have there is a collection of mildly offensive words. A joke, by definition, is actually funny. This is neither, both by its extreme age and by its offensive tone.

It would be like trying to defend a watermelon joke to a black poster as unoffensive and cutting-edge humour. If you have anything else to say directly to me on this matter, I'll take it up with you in private. Otherwise, there is nothing more here with any relevance to the topic at hand.

@Melissa: I don't pretend to know what GW will eventually do. But I will say that jousting biker sisters is exactly as ridiculous as Thunderwolf Cavalry. You say "I want a 5th ed. dex" but your own fandex is full of strange units that do not seem to fit the fluff. How you can claim that I want C:WH+ is inexplicable--unless you haven't bothered to read anything I've written here that wasn't specifically directed at you. I seriously don't think that a dex is written from the unit level up but rather begins with an army's identity, proceeds into an army's function, and then gets to specific unit design.

@Slarg: I'm not sure that you read my earlier posts. But you'll find some answers there.

Manchu wrote:And what does this prove?

Absolutely nothing.

It's somewhat believable that Space Wolves would employ the wolves the size of friggin' Rhinos as mounts for the "favored sons of Russ".

Now, as you said if we'd seen Bloodbatsofthebloodymoon, we'd have more wtfery.

Manchu wrote:@Slarg: I'm not sure that you read my earlier posts. But you'll find some answers there.

Ah, I (think I) see now. I think your just trying to help the sisters find their "Identity", much like Tau are shooters and Orks are close combat monsters, amiright?

Well, I think Sisters already have a very well defined identity that has been watered down by GW's release of C:WH and their neglect of the Sisters since then. A new Codex would be an opportunity to reverse that watering down.