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This is how I feel about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3YaKl9yFtY&feature=related

Well in game, those top mounted lascannons are going to have a huge range of fire. Don't forget, in game, its on a 3" flying stand, add 2-4" for the height of the vehicle itself and your looking at something 6 or so inches off the table. What can't it shoot at?

Stuff below it? Good reason to model it in a strafing run or banking turn

Jack

this is my favorite kitbash

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CbSWEUnVCVU/TDdjIg-4xFI/AAAAAAAABnY/OUMxDNGTqkk/s1600/Bob%27s+Stormraven.jpg

Someone actually made that? Give that man a medal.

That is dreadful. A real cop out. I hope that this is not the way all the new fliers will look. All of the kit bashes look way better then that.

Its look reminds me of the Parasite Fighter. A one man fighter tucked away in a B-36 Peacemakers bomb bay. It was a FAILED project.

olympia wrote:As was pointed out earlier in this thread, there is no space marine aesthetic to this vehicle. Its aesthetic, such as it is, is distinctly ork.

I disagree. It very much fits the Space Marine aesthetic. It's a very clear relative of the Land Raider and Rhino.

What it doesn't do is look good. While I'm willing to hold off final judgement until we get some pics from other angles, it's an awkward and ugly design.

Having said that, if it was labelled a 'drop ship' rather than a 'gunship' I think I would have fewer issues with it. In some bizarre way, it rather reminds me of the drop ships from the Starship Troopers movie. A drop ship can be a box that just has to get to the ground as quickly as possible. A gunship should look like something that could conceivably fly around a bit.

I am just going to buy a halo pelican and say its a storm raven.

As i said in my poll about this;
What I am going to do to make the chibi-hawk () look better:

The turret- Going off. I shall buy a razorback. The razorback's lascannons will go on the "nose" of the SR, one on either side. The SR lascannons will go on my Razorback.

The vent over the turret- is going off (the top of it will stay on the roof, though).

The non-existent rear end- I shall build one, following the same rough shape of the hull. I will not enclose the back.

The bit where the dread's meant to go- It shall go inside the newly-constructed rear. (It can jump out via the open rear).

This, IMO, will make it look considerably better.

shrike wrote:
As i said in my poll about this;
What I am going to do to make the chibi-hawk () look better:

The turret- Going off. I shall buy a razorback. The razorback's lascannons will go on the "nose" of the SR, one on either side. The SR lascannons will go on my Razorback.

The vent over the turret- is going off (the top of it will stay on the roof, though).

The non-existent rear end- I shall build one, following the same rough shape of the hull. I will not enclose the back.

The bit where the dread's meant to go- It shall go inside the newly-constructed rear. (It can jump out via the open rear).

This, IMO, will make it look considerably better.

Where have you been lol??

What a deep striking land raider should look like lol

Not bad tho model wise....

@MajorTom11
I Really like your redesign! I shall call it tomahawk... No seriously if this is legit and model comes out please make a tutorial on how you did it!

MajorTom, is GW doesn't change the model before release with the adjustments you made, I will personally light them all on fire, then commission you to make me one just like your design.

That said, the current design isn't terrible. I like it, even if it is flawed.

olympia wrote:As was pointed out earlier in this thread, there is no space marine aesthetic to this vehicle. Its aesthetic, such as it is, is distinctly ork.

I disagree. It looks very Imperial to me and various other people.

An Ork dropship would look more like this...



with more rivets, and guns sticking out.

1.) Had some discussion today in my local store. Actually most people quite liked it and thought it fitting the Space Marine aestetics. None was over enthusiastic, but noone disliked it. Just to counter the impression that everyone hates this model.

2.) While there is a scalewise fitting model of the Star Wars Republican Gunship by Revell, it has a sleak, round design, the excact opposite of Imperial flyers. I use it as an alternative for the Devilfish (and the ATT as an alternative to the Hammerhead).

3.) While dropships in Aliens, Halo (Pelican) and Starship trooper look more like it and sometimes have even models, the best fit currently seems to be this 1:60 scale cardboard model by Ebbles Miniatures: http://www.ebblesminiatures.com/shop/ud41_2010.php . It is large (13.85x12.61x3.94"), made of cardboard, but the pdf costs only 16$. And as a bonus you can get an alternative to the Rhino: http://www.ebblesminiatures.com/shop/m722_lev.php .

Meh.

What other models could we substitute?

I'm with AshCommand. I been cruisin ebay for different toys and models, but no luck yet. I would just drag my happy ass on down to toys are us if it wasnt 12,000 flight miles away. The website just aint the same. Any suggestions that arent completely loltastic.

I saw this mod on Warseer that I liked.



It looks more like the air crane helicopter it was based off this way. Though I'd still replace the turret with something else, such as the FW razorback turret. Maybe bulk the back end a little so it looks a little like a smaller version of the Thunderhawk and Valkyrie vehicle transporters.

or we could base it on this...
http://www.sikorsky.com/About+Sikorsky/News/Press+Details?pressvcmid=da93b5ecd29cb210VgnVCM1000004f62529fRCRD&keyword=%20Advance%20Military%20Rotary%20Wing%20Operations&dateFrom=null&dateTo=null&model=null&business=null&matchCriteria=null&matchKeyword=any&fromSearchPage=true&modelIndex=0&businessIndex=0&page=1

MajorTom11 wrote:Figured better post this in case they try to yank it -



...I am not sure if it is a kit-bash or not. A good one...Pretty cool, but not as cool as it could have been if it is the real deal.

I was thinking that-
"nice kit-bash, well put-together, cool, can't wait 'til GW make them, but even cooler...wait- THEY ARE GW! WHAT THE F-"

terribletrygon wrote:I saw this mod on Warseer that I liked.



It looks more like the air crane helicopter it was based off this way. Though I'd still replace the turret with something else, such as the FW razorback turret. Maybe bulk the back end a little so it looks a little like a smaller version of the Thunderhawk and Valkyrie vehicle transporters.

now it's just a chibi hawk with a longer, skinnier neck. Hearts in the right place, but back to the drawing board.

You know why people are going to buy this thing? To try and unsplice the rat feth fail from its genome.


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Not a terrible Idea, AshCommand, but there is nothing there that really follows the SM aesthetic (ie, boxy, hereafter to be refered to as "Volvo aesthetic")
. So, while that certianly is cool for those who are cool with it, it DOES kind just trade some issues away just to take others on, you think? But hey, if someone out there likes it go for it!

I wouldn't be surprised if GW used this as an excuse for why they never do previews anymore (even if this was an accident). "Nuh uh, no way, you guys say it improves sales but look what happened with the finely-detailed stormraven we slaved over! You hated that model because it was shown off too early, never again!"

Guys and Gals, I think they 'accidentally' put it up on their website to see how the community would react, and would change the model accordingly.
This seems too big an error to just have happened.

that's just derp enough to be plausible.

MajorTom11 wrote:

shrike wrote:
As i said in my poll about this;
What I am going to do to make the chibi-hawk () look better:

The turret- Going off. I shall buy a razorback. The razorback's lascannons will go on the "nose" of the SR, one on either side. The SR lascannons will go on my Razorback.

The vent over the turret- is going off (the top of it will stay on the roof, though).

The non-existent rear end- I shall build one, following the same rough shape of the hull. I will not enclose the back.

The bit where the dread's meant to go- It shall go inside the newly-constructed rear. (It can jump out via the open rear).

This, IMO, will make it look considerably better.

Where have you been lol??

I saw it- thought "Wow."- until I remembered. I will bugger it up. Too complicated for the likes of me. For me- clip here, glue there, little bit of plasticard here, done.

When i first saw it it reminded my of my kitty-litter box, just with added wings and tail and a turret on top.

Sorry, but after growing up with all the nice FW-flyers and the really good transfers to plastic, this is a major dissapointment.

@changes
With the lead times for plastic production in mind and the prices to change the forms it is already too late to change anything if it is going to be released in February. BTW, noone in his right mind would produce a plastic form and then change it after such a preview. That´s what mock-ups are for.

grizgrin wrote:that's just derp enough to be plausible.

Actually it kinda make sense.

I like the look of the one top.... BUT IT reminds me of a tau devilfish for some reason.....

Asherian Command wrote:

grizgrin wrote:that's just derp enough to be plausible.

Actually it kinda make sense.

Not unless it was an early finished prototype from before the molds were constructed. They would be too deep in the development cycle for it to make sense otherwise.

GW changing it is just wishful thinking, if this is accompanying the Grey Knights in Feb or thereabouts then the moulds are done and dusted by now.