New Stormraven pic! 11/11

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**H.B.M.C.**

gannam wrote:http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CbSWEUnVCVU/TDdjIg-4xFI/AAAAAAAABnY/OUMxDNGTqkk/s1600/Bob%27s+Stormraven.jpg

Wow... I'm amazed someone went and made that - complete with Dante playing air guitar on his power axe!

**Valhallan42nd**

It really doesn't look anything like what I would have expected. I'm staying with my kit-bashes, thank you very much.

**Asherian Command**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
gannam wrote:http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CbSWEUnVCVU/TDdjIg-4xFI/AAAAAAAABnY/OUMxDNGTqkk/s1600/Bob%27s+Stormraven.jpg

Wow... I'm amazed someone went and made that - complete with Dante playing air guitar on his power axe!

Lol that is awesome

**shrike**

Just think "I want to break free".

**Asherian Command**

Ahh the good old days back when 40k was less grimdark.

**Augustus**

vitki wrote:I dub it the chibi-hawk

Funniest thing I have read on Dakka in a while! Right on the money! I agree completely!

I will sure build at least one.

Cool.

**Kroothawk**

Frgt/10 over at Warseer confirmed the release date:

having seen multiple pictures of the stormraven (and the other feb releases for that matter); that is indeed the official GW model.
It looks awesome when you see it from other angles, and it comes with EVERY option in the BA codex.(...)
in fact as of feb it will be more than just BA and grey knights...

Guess that means wave 1.5 of Dark Eldar.

**Melissia**

Good, maybe that'll help stop people from comaplining about the lack of DE models.

Wait, what am I kidding.

**Asherian Command**

Yeah people will not stop complaining about stuff.
ANYWAY on the topic of models never being released where is my god damn Tech Marine with a conversion beam and where is my Korsaha khan on bike! And where the hell is my Eldar Harelquen Death Jester, Troupe Leader?

**kenshin620**

Asherian Command wrote: And where the hell is my Eldar Harelquen Death Jester, Troupe Leader?

This bit was sarcastic right?

**Ouroborus**

It doesn't look that bad. If i were to buy one, I'd get some plasticard and lengthen it a bit.

**nathonicus**

I like it.

Reminds me of this:

In fact, I like it a bit more than I like the thunderhawk.

I like that it actually looks tall enough to transport a dread in back, and the turret is ace. It's also quite distinctive - looks almost like a bomb - really suggests that it plummets at great speed toward the drop zone.

The wings might not look big enough, but the wings aren't big enough on the Valk either - that's a limitation of scale. After all, we have to transport these things somehow!

All in all, I'd say good job. I'm glad it is distinctive. Being nice and tall like that, and armor 14, it's also going to function as instant LOS blocking terrain.

**J'santai Khan**

Having been around 'back in the day' when half of the REALLY good stuff never made it to the table unless you scratchbuilt it yourself, I'm in awe over the fact that GW is actually putting forth some effort toward producing most of the models in the codex (I know, I know, someone is going to point out SOMETHING that they haven't yet/aren't going to produce, but they're doing a TON better than they used to!). Besides, all I have to do with this one is put it together and paint it, which will take much less time and cause NO problems at tourneys! I LIKE it!

**Asherian Command**

nathonicus wrote:I like it.

Reminds me of this:

In fact, I like it a bit more than I like the thunderhawk.

That is a sin! Destroy him!

**AlexHolker**

nathonicus wrote:It's also quite distinctive - looks almost like a bomb - really suggests that it plummets at great speed toward the drop zone.

Nath, I'm going to let you in on a little secret.

Plummeting at great speed is the easy part. Any idiot can do that. The hard part is not reducing yourself to a red smear on the ground when you land. The Stormraven neglects this vitally important aspect, with a design that would be incapable of doing anything but hasten its destruction, and can't even pretend that it would do otherwise.

**MajorTom11**

But it would somersault like no one's business lol!

**Kirbinator**

AlexHolker wrote:Plummeting at great speed is the easy part. Any idiot can do that. The hard part is not reducing yourself to a red smear on the ground when you land. The Stormraven neglects this vitally important aspect, with a design that would be incapable of doing anything but hasten its destruction, and can't even pretend that it would do otherwise.

The truth is that GW is making Codex: Angry Marines actual fluff and the Stormraven is the basis for things like this.

**Ouroborus**

AlexHolker wrote:
nathonicus wrote:It's also quite distinctive - looks almost like a bomb - really suggests that it plummets at great speed toward the drop zone.

Nath, I'm going to let you in on a little secret.

Plummeting at great speed is the easy part. Any idiot can do that. The hard part is not reducing yourself to a red smear on the ground when you land. The Stormraven neglects this vitally important aspect, with a design that would be incapable of doing anything but hasten its destruction, and can't even pretend that it would do otherwise.

Yeah but they're not designing it to be effective in reality.

**Thalor**

I suppose it is nice that GW is putting forth the effort to make the models that are listed in the codex, but comeone, it took several members less than a day to look at the model and improve tremendously upon it. Do they actually unveil these things to more than two people before making the production mold?

**AlexHolker**

Ouroborus wrote:Yeah but they're not designing it to be effective in reality.

I'm not expecting their visual design team to have done an Aerospace Engineering course, but I at least expect their ideas to stand up to five seconds of scrutiny.

**Nicorex**

Well to dump my 2 cents in the pot.. I dont hate it.. I dont love it either. If I get one I will do a bit(and by a bit I mean a lot) of work to it to make it fit more inline with what I was picturing in my head when I read the codex.
Nice to hear that it will come with all the codex options.
It would be nice if they would make something similar for my Chaos marines.

**Acardia**

Kroothawk wrote:1.) Had some discussion today in my local store. Actually most people quite liked it and thought it fitting the Space Marine aestetics. None was over enthusiastic, but noone disliked it. Just to counter the impression that everyone hates this model.

2.) While there is a scalewise fitting model of the Star Wars Republican Gunship by Revell, it has a sleak, round design, the excact opposite of Imperial flyers. I use it as an alternative for the Devilfish (and the ATT as an alternative to the Hammerhead).

3.) While dropships in Aliens, Halo (Pelican) and Starship trooper look more like it and sometimes have even models, the best fit currently seems to be this 1:60 scale cardboard model by Ebbles Miniatures: http://www.ebblesminiatures.com/shop/ud41_2010.php . It is large (13.85x12.61x3.94"), made of cardboard, but the pdf costs only 16$. And as a bonus you can get an alternative to the Rhino: http://www.ebblesminiatures.com/shop/m722_lev.php .

Wow that looks quite a lot like Serenity

**rdlb**

It seems weird to criticize the realism or practicality of the design. It is an imaginary dropship for space marines in the year 40000. The main goal should be that it looks cool...

**DiscoVader**

rdlb wrote:It seems weird to criticize the realism or practicality of the design. It is an imaginary dropship for space marines in the year 40000. The main goal should be that it looks cool...

Which is kind of the problem. Suspension of disbelief is perfectly fine if the thing in question is cool enough or looks great regardless of if it's accurate (e.g. a non-40K example, the Velociraptors from Jurassic Park, which look nothing like the real species Velociraptor mongoliensis but have ingrained themselves in the public consciousness due to how awesome they were.) However, a decent amount of people seem to feel that the StormRaven just plain looks goofy, which weakens the suspension of disbelief a lot.

Granted, it is kind of silly to be arguing aerodynamics and such over a tabletop mini, but it still feels like they could have made a better design. Here's hoping that Melissia's right and it looks better from another angle or that it's just a test/early version.

**ShumaGorath**

Ouroborus wrote:
AlexHolker wrote:
nathonicus wrote:It's also quite distinctive - looks almost like a bomb - really suggests that it plummets at great speed toward the drop zone.

Nath, I'm going to let you in on a little secret.

Plummeting at great speed is the easy part. Any idiot can do that. The hard part is not reducing yourself to a red smear on the ground when you land. The Stormraven neglects this vitally important aspect, with a design that would be incapable of doing anything but hasten its destruction, and can't even pretend that it would do otherwise.

Yeah but they're not designing it to be effective in reality.

No, but they could at least pretend to care.

**Sidstyler**

Not sure if anyone follows Beasts of War on YouTube, but I though this was relevant. I just love his reaction, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4pnEnuerJA&feature=recentlik

I wouldn't recommend watching their DE codex review, though...they just seem to complain the entire time about how DE aren't as resilient as Marines. x_x

"It's like a toaster with wings!"

**shabbadoo**

If GW does allow other chapters to take Stormaravens , I will buy one precisely because it looks like a dumpster with wings and guns, and that it relies as much on faith to fly as it does on its engines.

Seriously, I think it will take some time, but that this model will grow on people. Remember when the current style of Land Speeder first came out? Lots of people hated that too, but that murmur of discontent died out long, long ago. I'll definitely pick up a Stormraven, as it will not only be useful for my Dark Angels army(hopefully), but also as an added piece of scenery sitting on a landing platform or as a scenario objective.

And because I won't have to kit-bash/scratch-build one.

**wolfshadow**

Going to drop StickMonkey's from Warseers post over there into the discussion here, as he's actually SEEN it.

"It is the SR.

The photo does not show it off as well as it should.

It's been months since I saw it, but I remember the wings sitting about a quarter to half way over the side doors. This angle make them look like they are much further back on the model. I recall it was front heavy, but there's a whole undercarriage of bits obscured by the marines here.

The angle makes the tail look like it's connected to nothing, the body does go back that far, it's not just on a stick from the intake.

I liked the model a lot when I first saw it. Still do.

As far as the furioso...you've seen that model before elsewhere...can you find it again? "

**Heliodore**

It is disturbingly cute, but I'll hold my constructive judgement/ opinion till I see more pics or the actual kit. Although I do agree that this looks to be a good kit to buy for bitz and what not for other projects. Someone's post quoted a bit of of hear-say that said the kit will come with every option listed in the codex; even extra armor? I wonder how that will look?

**grizgrin**

I'm hoping so cause short of a fulll-on scratch build I am just not finding a ready replacement that truly fits the bill.