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think drones as troops might be possible i've always wanted to field an all drone force. Remoras would be enough to get me back into collecting tau.

Lolwut?

That doesn't make any sense, nor is it based off of the current rumors.

Remoras would be cool though.

Tau perimeter defense force IA something. Lotsa drones/turrets. Not sure on the command structure on it, but an all drone force would be hilarious.

All drone would be pretty funny. Could include a special rule that makes Tyranids and Necrons lose by default because they can't give a feth about attacking them.

Drones can't be a scoring unit.

Or can they?

That would just be weird.

Technically the Tau shouldn't have scoring units anyway. They don't believe in holding objectives, instead they focus purely on destroying the enemy first, then worry about claiming the field after the enemy is dead.

Might be entertaining to see them integrate that into the new codex somehow, something like in objective based missions the Tau can't claim objectives but instead score Kill Points like in Annihilation Missions.

But that's probably too weird a rule. Then again, with all the talk of tau having no troops, who knows how weird they are willing to let the Tau get?

Jefffar wrote:Technically the Tau shouldn't have scoring units anyway. They don't believe in holding objectives, instead they focus purely on destroying the enemy first, then worry about claiming the field after the enemy is dead.

Let's not take characterizations of the Tau too far. Tau military doctrine doesn't hold with holding fortified defensive positions, sure. That's a campaign-level strategic doctrine. 40K represents a much smaller slice in time. It seems reasonable that Tau would hold some objectives on the battlefield, not because their campaign-level doctrine requires them to fortify a position, but because those objectives are required for or most efficiently enable clearing the area of enemy. A strategic drop zone from which reinforcements can be deployed, high ground that offers a clear view of the battlefield, an objective known to be desired by the enemy- these are all easily imaginable reasons for the Tau to have mission-level objectives.

Besides, we don't want GW to tinker too much in that level of rules. I remember back when Necrons and Dark Eldar were never allowed to be defenders in missions. It got really dull really fast because it limited the variety of games we could play. Personally, I like allowing a little grey area in racial characterizing like this because it allows "the rule of cool" to come into play. Eldar aren't supposed to build fortifications either but Forgeworld found an excuse to justify the tres cool Haven Class Spire. I'd like to see the same possibilities with Tau. Because I think a Tau bunker/modular fortification would be damn cool, and thus should be allowed.

Updated (and in case of the Sentry Drones improved) versions of the Tau static position drones were in Imperial Armour 3. These mostly seemed oriented to an area denial philosophy rather than for holding a position.

nobody wrote:

The Ubersuit is a Battletech/Mechwarrior sort of thing (probably Dreadknight sized), with a special 'ridiculous' ability that lets it rain down shooting if it stands still.
Looks a bit like one of the Battletech Mechs that is named after an ancient weapon

Interesting. I'd want to guess Catapult or Longbow based on the whole "raining down fire" part.

Ok and I call Javalin

JOHIRA wrote:Personally, I like allowing a little grey area in racial characterizing like this because it allows "the rule of cool" to come into play. Eldar aren't supposed to build fortifications either but Forgeworld found an excuse to justify the tres cool Haven Class Spire.

Silly question, but why is that BFG model listed in the Warhammer 40,000 section?

Half of the post on this page is about nids? Can not start itown topic?

Suits need not to be ID and what that guy wrote on "http://kroxitau.blogspot.com/2010/03/new-tau-codex-leak.html "
hopefully will come true. Gun drones should be fearless, they are just machines.

thevirus wrote:Half of the post on this page is about nids? Can not start itown topic?.

None of the posts on this page are about nids. If you're going to complain about an off topic discussion, try not to do it a few days AFTER its already stopped and the thread is on topic.

warboss wrote:

thevirus wrote:Half of the post on this page is about nids? Can not start itown topic?.

None of the posts on this page are about nids. If you're going to complain about an off topic discussion, try not to do it a few days AFTER its already stopped and the thread is on topic.

not fearless, stubborn. Failing a LD check doesn't mean you got scared it means either you got scared and routed or made a tactical decision to rout. Drones don't get scared, but they have simple logic engines that could tell them to route for a myriad of reasons.

thevirus wrote:Suits need not to be ID and what that guy wrote on "http://kroxitau.blogspot.com/2010/03/new-tau-codex-leak.html "
hopefully will come true. Gun drones should be fearless, they are just machines.

Look at the date: It was a leaked version of the Tau Codex released summer 2011

I like totally heard from a redshirt that Tau will be getting railgun pistols 18" range Assault AP1, to go with new super cool ninja suits and anti pirate flachette rounds.

most offical.

Kroothawk wrote:

thevirus wrote:Suits need not to be ID and what that guy wrote on "http://kroxitau.blogspot.com/2010/03/new-tau-codex-leak.html "
hopefully will come true. Gun drones should be fearless, they are just machines.

Look at the date: It was a leaked version of the Tau Codex released summer 2011

Also read the intro to the post and more importantly, the comments down below.

In regards to this rumor posted a while back



Some clarification from Jared below:

Librarium Online's Jared Van Kell wrote:

Liberium Online'sSwamp_slug wrote: Sorry JvK, could you clarify this point a bit as I'm not sure I quite understand?

From your information are you saying that if my HQ choices were a Battlesuit Commander and a Kroot Master Shaper then I would not be able to take Fire Warriors or Demiurg Warrior squads at all or that they are all available irrespective of your HQ choices and the presence of the associated HQ just grants them better in some way?

I'm hoping its the latter.

Thanks.

From what I understand they become troops. However I have a strong feeling that firewarriors are going to be remaining as troops that can be taken irrespective of what commander you taken but that the different commanders allow you to take other units as troops instead.
With regard to ethereals I believe that they will allow honour guard to be be taken as troops (with BS4 and preferred enemy) or at least allow firewarriors to be upgraded to honour guard.
For the kroot carnivor squads and demiurg warrior squads and indeed the other kroot/demiurg units as well I do believe the rumour is correct in that you will have to take a shaper/ancient to be able to take them. For Crisis battlesuit teams I am sure taking a tau commander they are moved from elites to troops instead or at least become scoring.

Well that compleatly ruined the idea of an all allies force. You could only take two out of the 4 new races.

Only 2 of the 4 as troops.

The other races are still available, but not in the scoring slots of the FOC.

I imagine the Kroot end up as Elite or Fast Attack. Demi-Urg as Elite or Heavy. The Vespid are already Fast Attack, not sure on the other unit they will end up with (part of me wants to see a big mother queen vespid MC that moves like Jump Infantry, has Fleet and is a Heavy Support choice) and we have that mystery race as well.

Yeah, I'm just gonna picture the shock on an SM player's face when a Vespid Queen makes a 24 inch charge move and eats his land raider.

Ethereals allowing honor guard and fire warriors being troops no matter what makes a LOT more sense, design wise.

Rented Tritium wrote:Ethereals allowing honor guard and fire warriors being troops no matter what makes a LOT more sense, design wise.

Yup seems likely, and hopefully the firewarriors get a few more options, I dont really care about stat bonus, just gimme some gear . I have invested way to much money in my FW squads to even consider shelving them.

BTW Rented Tritium nice avatar pic, good taste in movies

Rented Tritium wrote:Ethereals allowing honor guard and fire warriors being troops no matter what makes a LOT more sense, design wise.

This makes the most logical sense. Honor guard will probably have better BS, LD, and maybe even options to special upgrades.

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:

Rented Tritium wrote:Ethereals allowing honor guard and fire warriors being troops no matter what makes a LOT more sense, design wise.

Yup seems likely, and hopefully the firewarriors get a few more options, I dont really care about stat bonus, just gimme some gear . I have invested way to much money in my FW squads to even consider shelving them.

BTW Rented Tritium nice avatar pic, good taste in movies

Always with the negative waves!

I think that the HQ unlocking troop choices is kinda silly. That would mean that most Tau armies would completely lose either their troops or elites...

Jefffar wrote:Only 2 of the 4 as troops.
The other races are still available, but not in the scoring slots of the FOC.

Not if the rumour about percentages instead of FOC in 6th edition are true: With a cheap HQ spam you can take several HQs and make all races troops.

paulson games wrote:I like totally heard from a redshirt that Tau will be getting railgun pistols 18" range Assault AP1, to go with new super cool ninja suits and anti pirate flachette rounds.

most offical.

I don't know about the pistols, sounds pritty weird since railguns work using electro-magnetisum to fire solid projectiles. The shorter the barral, the slower they go. A pistol is pushing it a bit far I think. Knowing GW, they might pull anything. Just shove rail on the front and its cooler! The suits, well we know about 'sniper suits'. That could be the same thing, and we already have flachette launchers. Maybe a rule change?

On another note, I'm wondering if the 6th eddition stuff will have a new design for the front cover like the wfb books are diffrent. We will miss out. :(

Anti pirate flachette rounds will be so cool.
They are like s12 ap-1 large blast and with awesome 2" range.
I've also heard the ninja suit model will be just an emty 40mm base with a little rock on it for like 30 bucks, but it's sooo awesome that everyone just has to buy it.

And yea I'm totally sure the rail pistol will be in the codex,
along with the Flaming Broadsword of Doom, that replaces the Bonding Knifes.

Do you really have to jump on every bit of rumor that is posted here?
Is the situation so desperate?... >.<

Ledabot wrote:

paulson games wrote:I like totally heard from a redshirt that Tau will be getting railgun pistols 18" range Assault AP1, to go with new super cool ninja suits and anti pirate flachette rounds.

most offical.

I don't know about the pistols, sounds pritty weird since railguns work using electro-magnetisum to fire solid projectiles. The shorter the barral, the slower they go. A pistol is pushing it a bit far I think. Knowing GW, they might pull anything. Just shove rail on the front and its cooler! The suits, well we know about 'sniper suits'. That could be the same thing, and we already have flachette launchers. Maybe a rule change?

On another note, I'm wondering if the 6th eddition stuff will have a new design for the front cover like the wfb books are diffrent. We will miss out. :(

pssst... It's all a joke. Just google pirates vs ninjas to see what the anti-pirate ninja gun refers to.

I know this isnt in the rumors but is it so much to hope for a tau scenery kit similar in scale to the imperial strongpoint or fortress of redemption kits?

I personally am at the point of buying one of those kits for a conversion of sorts, but that would be a massive undertaking that I'm not ready for yet.

Bluetau wrote:I know this isnt in the rumors but is it so much to hope for a tau scenery kit similar in scale to the imperial strongpoint or fortress of redemption kits?

I personally am at the point of buying one of those kits for a conversion of sorts, but that would be a massive undertaking that I'm not ready for yet.

Yeah, that's entirely too much to hope for. It's safe to release Imperial-based terrain since half of all the armies in this game are Imperial, and a lot of players will have use of it. Releasing race-specific terrain for just one army of sixteen is entirely too niche. In resin it's possible, like we saw with the Ork barricades, but I wouldn't expect a plastic Tau terrain kit at all.

Yes, it would be totally unrealistic to pour some resin into this ready form and make instant profit:
http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Tau_-_Unreleased



Better make a 10000$ plastic mould for a rare choice of a rare army (beastmen) in a rare game (Warhammer Fantasy): Cygor/Ghorgon