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 Platuan4th wrote:
Except that the specific Thundertank box used in that 'shop is from the 2011 reboot line NOT the 80's show.

So, it looks like early 2010's design?

I wasn't referencing the actual Thundertank art on the box, but remembering the old Thundertank from the original show.... the fact that the new one is there escaped my sight.

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 Carnikang wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
Except that the specific Thundertank box used in that 'shop is from the 2011 reboot line NOT the 80's show.

So, it looks like early 2010's design?

I wasn't referencing the actual Thundertank art on the box, but remembering the old Thundertank from the original show.... the fact that the new one is there escaped my sight.


Personally, it actually looks more like the newer one than the older one, though.

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I see what you mean.

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I don't really like it. Not going to post funny remarks or memes, just why it looks off to me.

It doesn't look like it comes from an STC at all. Or share much of the same design language as the other SM vehicles do. (Same reason the Mastadon looks off to me, but that isn't as far off) It really does look like a kitbash (well executed) of another tank with SM details

The good-
The nose pods share the same slope and inset panel of most SM vehicles, with the light arrays being standard (though there is a cut into the slope leading to the lights, while most others do not). The skull dome on the inside looks out of place though, as it should be either lower mounted to match the repulsor, or much larger to imply a larger generator.

The repulsor panels are the same as the... Repulsor, and resemble a cross between rhino tracks at the tips, and land speeder grav plates and underbelly. They are in large angular fittings, unlike the inset rounded fixtures of the repulsor.

The central nose looks like a blend of the Sicaran/Proteus grill and heavy bolter mount.

The meh-

The turret tries to blend the blocky (overstuffed) style of the repulsor with the more typical turrets of the caladius or sicaran, and makes a mess of it. It is too narrow for it's length (repulsor is basically a square with stowage, sicaran and fellblade are domes, predator is a slightly stretched octagon)

The guns are mixed as well- the mounts are oversized sicaran cannons, but with angular cowls instead of the rounded ones of the Sicaran and Caladius. The base of the barrel looks like a bunch of arachnus blaze cannon styling on top of the acellerator autocannons. Still, I rather like the cannons.

Side sponsons. They actually look really cool. I'd love them if they were on say the fire raptor, fell blade, or spartan. But they are mounted high and forward, so the cylinder breaks up the top hull, and the shape of the weapon itself would scream multi-melta if you didn't see the barrel tips. Also, they are mostly rounded and cylindrical while the main turret shrouds are faceted, and everything besides the engine cowls and ammo drums are highly angular, so they look out of place.

The bad-

The upper hull. The nose is fine, right til it reaches up past the top of the hull to form a spine. Then dips in for an unnessecary inset and back out for more spine, which widens out to the rear. And there are a lot of vents and periscopes and pipes protruding out of the top, while nearly all SM vehicles are basically flat with a small terrace for the hull roof (usually where the turret/hatches go and which is often fared into armor panels on the sides) with panels and details inset into it.
The Mastadon has a large bunker on top but generally follows the same rough look. The Storm Bird does share the central spine with flat panels to the sides, but the Storm Bird also looks like a ton of extra panels slapped on the sides and top of a servicable thunderhawk.

The ugly-

The rear repulsors. Too many angles perpendicular to the rest of the tank. SM designs are angular in the front, less so in the rear, and basically slab sided. Top corners are usually slanted off, and even aircraft with slanted wings or upper hull keep those parts a solid piece. The rear of this thing look like the front corner of a proper SM tank, with inset panel, jammed up with six others and then put sideways and under the main body. And to add insult, a slightly off looking void shield generator is mounted at a slant, hand rails added above, and the repulsors vertical engines are flipped on their sides and put on the back.
Too many extra angles and bits, and facing wrong directions.


I don't have photoshop, but there are a few fixes to solve most of these problems though.

First, instead of a central spine, keep the hull on the front engine pods going up as well and then back at the same level. This will make the cylinders and much of the protruding vents go away, make the hull wider towards the rear, and eliminate the hand rails on the sides. add some insets with vents and mechanical parts. Doing this would also make the widened rear into a small terrace for the turret to sit on like other SM tanks.

Widen the main turret, and either add a second hatch, or make the top hatch more solidly a part of the turret.

Remove the rear repulsors and engines. Angle up the belly along with the front engines, and then flat towards the rear, similar to the storm raven/thunderhawk. Instead, add a second pod to the rear sides like on the front, with vertical slopes, larger versions of the repulsors vertical engines, and possibly a second set of sponsons. You get rid of a ton of odd angles, vertical engines tie into the repulsor, and the general shape will be more like the mastadon.

   
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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I like the new space marine hover tank. It looks advanced, yet still maintains that harsh imperial aesthetic.
Not going to get it, because I don't play marines, but I think they did a good job on it.



Can't decide if I like it or not.

I am impressed its not got 300 guns like the Repulsor and the turret is very nice. The whole thing reminds me more of a Centurion grav tank form the game of the same name by FASA (yeah I am that old).

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I wonder how big a crew sits in that things, with all those vision ports.

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 BrookM wrote:
I wonder how big a crew sits in that things, with all those vision ports.

Probably still only three or four, five tops, they'll largely be back-up for when the cameras are knocked out I'll wager.

I reckon a driver, gunner, Techmarine servicing the plant and grav-generators, and probably a secondary gunner too. Maybe a commander. Bearing in mind two Marines adequately pilot a Predator to a high degree of efficiency with sponsons (vs 6 Guardsmen for a Leman Russ with sponsons).

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I dig it, and I think it's precisely because it doesn't quite fit any one existing aesthetic.

That helps it occupy it's place as something entirely new to the Imperial arsenal, rather than some long forgotten relic that Cawl has dug up from the Heresy (could still be STC of course!)

And I do like that concept. I feel it helps set the narrative that Guilliman has launched a second Great Crusade. And just like his father's efforts, he's backing that up with brand new weapons and warriors.

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Yeah I've been studying it for a while and decided that I like it. I get a bit of a thunderhawk transporter vibe from it.

It truly does look like a new kind of tank for a new kind of space marine and will blend very well alongside a pair of repulsors.


   
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 Breotan wrote:
Just remember, Forge World's large models are often clunky blocks of resin that didn't shrink evenly in the mold and will be difficult to put together correctly without brass rod, epoxy resin, and lots of gap filling. Seriously, Forge World has some of the most terrible quality control issues I've ever seen in resin casting.



I was under the impression that was mainly only an issue in older molds- the new molds are generally ok for a couple of years.

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It reminds me more of a combination of the 80's Laser Force and GI JOE toys. Specifically the Laser Tank and the GI JOE Rolling Thunder.



   
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Iron Halo below is 12 points.

On that FW doors page there are:
Dark Angels Legion Deimos Rhino Doors
Dark Angels Chapter Repulsor Doors
Dark Angels Land Raider Doors

Older designs
Dark Angels Rhino Doors and Front Plate
Dark Angels Land Raider Doors

If they are not failing with their naming conventions, the upper list has Legion and Chapter doors and another set with an eight point emblem that is neither Legion or Chapter. I doubt that the eight point emblem is on there accidentally...

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 Azreal13 wrote:
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StarHunter25 wrote:
Anyone else notice the star of chaos around some of the Dark Angel's doors? Real question... are those Luther's or the Lion's?


...huh. It is an 8-pointed emblem. Not sure it is full-on Chaos, which works well for the "not sure if Chaos" Dark Angels!


I think it's more derivative of this sort of thing than anything suggestive of Chaotic

   
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Hence my use of the word derivative, rather than choosing a word like identical.

People are, as usual, reading too much into too little information and getting overexcited.

IMO of course.

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It's an iron halo, and a common SM design element for decades... I dunno, it's sunburst inspired in the first place. If it is a little not towards edging towards chaos in the heresy, all the better though, as it can arguably work both ways. I think it is a clever use overall.

PS - The Rolling Thunder was THE GAK back in the day!

PPS - Staring at the tank a bit more, I still like it overall, and like this aesthetic direction they are going in (a lot less skull/gothic/tomb, a lot more military/futuristic), it is bugging me a bit that it is so huge in footprint with such a tiny turret comparatively... at the size it is it just looks like it has HUGE transport capacity, for it to have none seems weird design wise. I think it would have been a good move on their part to either upsize the turret or shrink the body, particularly the back, to balance things out a bit more.

I still like it, Rolling Thunder ftw!

   
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If it had split tracks like the mastodon I'd be ALL over it. Absolutely all over it. It would look like a bit of a rip off of the scorpion from Halo but I wouldn't care.... Not into this grav tank style thing going on personally, leave that to the tau and eldar, marines and guard should have tracks.
   
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endlesswaltz123 wrote:
If it had split tracks like the mastodon I'd be ALL over it. Absolutely all over it. It would look like a bit of a rip off of the scorpion from Halo but I wouldn't care.... Not into this grav tank style thing going on personally, leave that to the tau and eldar, marines and guard should have tracks.


I agree, 40K definitely needs more H-tanks.

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 MajorTom11 wrote:

PPS - Staring at the tank a bit more, I still like it overall, and like this aesthetic direction they are going in (a lot less skull/gothic/tomb, a lot more military/futuristic), it is bugging me a bit that it is so huge in footprint with such a tiny turret comparatively... at the size it is it just looks like it has HUGE transport capacity, for it to have none seems weird design wise. I think it would have been a good move on their part to either upsize the turret or shrink the body, particularly the back, to balance things out a bit more.


I think the problem is that the front of it looks like it was going to have a Land Raider-style assault ramp, until they changed their minds at the last minute and then didn't bother to redesign the front half to accommodate the change. Overall, I still like it.

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Its NOT an Iron Halo. If you google iron halo in google images, every image shown is a 12 rayed star or a part of a 12 rayed star. There are no 8 rayed versions of the Iron Halo.

The Rhino on the Heresy page below set has a partial 12 ray star on the front plate. Its possible that GW screwed the ray count on the Land Raider door pieces, but that would not be terribly normal for them.

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 MajorTom11 wrote:
It's an iron halo, and a common SM design element for decades... I dunno, it's sunburst inspired in the first place. If it is a little not towards edging towards chaos in the heresy, all the better though, as it can arguably work both ways. I think it is a clever use overall.
   
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 MajorTom11 wrote:
It's an iron halo, and a common SM design element for decades... I dunno, it's sunburst inspired in the first place. If it is a little not towards edging towards chaos in the heresy, all the better though, as it can arguably work both ways. I think it is a clever use overall.

PS - The Rolling Thunder was THE GAK back in the day!

PPS - Staring at the tank a bit more, I still like it overall, and like this aesthetic direction they are going in (a lot less skull/gothic/tomb, a lot more military/futuristic), it is bugging me a bit that it is so huge in footprint with such a tiny turret comparatively... at the size it is it just looks like it has HUGE transport capacity, for it to have none seems weird design wise. I think it would have been a good move on their part to either upsize the turret or shrink the body, particularly the back, to balance things out a bit more.

I still like it, Rolling Thunder ftw!


I figured that the rear hull was some massive reactors/capacitors/grav coils, but with all the armour plating you can't see it. Aesthetically the design would work better if these were more exposed, as your eyes would then know what all the bulk was for, but the armour makes more sense from a functional point of view. Having said that, we haven't got a full 360 yet, so that may change from other angles.

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My money is on Adeptus Titanicus.

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Squats?

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I'm hoping for bigger taller marine with an even more absurdly oversized weapon than usual.

 
   
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Has anybody heard any kind of update on Dorn?

Somebody mentioned that at the heresy weekender they spoke with a designer that confirmed he was done (or pretty much done). I believe it was in the same post they mentioned a designer talking about a primaris super heavy.
   
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I kinda like the tank. The two issues I see are pain scheme (it looks like something from Star Wars) and the messy middle section. There's just not enough clear space on the hull for all the fine detail elsewhere to breathe.

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
My money is on Adeptus Titanicus.

High time we saw more (well, anything on that)


Agreed... though...

Given the Red Scorpions paint scheme on that tank - maybe FoC? Wouldn't that be nice.

   
 
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