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Arturius wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:I doubt the Daemons would fight each other seeing as they're directly controlled by Khorne.

Endless pointless internecine slaughter is pretty much what the Daemons of Khorne do, though, when they're not bound by a sorcerer or teaming up to kill someone else instead. A bit like orks in that respect.

Um...no

Khorne + sorcerer in same sentence. GTFO.

Call it what you want, but when a dude summons and binds a daemon of anything, I'm gonna call it 'sorcery' and feel comfortable doing so,

Arturius wrote:Call it what you want, but when a dude summons and binds a daemon of anything, I'm gonna call it 'sorcery' and feel comfortable doing so,

...except for khorne.

im2randomghgh wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:the Titan wasn't really a big deal. It was posessed by a daemon. He killed it, and the STC was destroyed as a result. not a huge stretch.

and he basically incited a huge fight over the world and it self-destructed.

Not a big deal? It has been said that an Imperator is big enough to defend a world, and this titan was supposedly worth quite a few Imperators, PLUS it was bolster by a powerful daemon, PLUS it had a gun that shot daemons.

MASSIVE STRETCH.

the Titan was distracted by the Magos in control of the warhound titan, allowing Alaric to get inside the Titan to the control center.


it was a heroic and ultimate BAMF thing to do, but he's a GK. its in the job description.

Grey Templar wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:the Titan wasn't really a big deal. It was posessed by a daemon. He killed it, and the STC was destroyed as a result. not a huge stretch.

and he basically incited a huge fight over the world and it self-destructed.

Not a big deal? It has been said that an Imperator is big enough to defend a world, and this titan was supposedly worth quite a few Imperators, PLUS it was bolster by a powerful daemon, PLUS it had a gun that shot daemons.

MASSIVE STRETCH.

the Titan was distracted by the Magos in control of the warhound titan, allowing Alaric to get inside the Titan to the control center.


it was a heroic and ultimate BAMF thing to do, but he's a GK. its in the job description.

Still a stretch. they have auspex, and daemons. And TWO weapons, one which can obliterate a warhound with contemptuous ease, but the other one would be COMPLETELY incapable of eraticating PA, right?

GK armor is to daemons like salt is to slugs. ever seen a salted slug?

shooting daemons at a GK isn't going to do much.

Grey Templar wrote:GK armor is to daemons like salt is to slugs. ever seen a salted slug?

shooting daemons at a GK isn't going to do much.

They have power weapons /conversation. And with a continuous stream they could even just use impact of the daemons to kill.

Whatever happens, there are many ways to kill a titan, and many of them are available to tau.

How they use them, of course, and what would be the best way to use them, is up to debate.

im2randomghgh wrote:

Arturius wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:I doubt the Daemons would fight each other seeing as they're directly controlled by Khorne.

Endless pointless internecine slaughter is pretty much what the Daemons of Khorne do, though, when they're not bound by a sorcerer or teaming up to kill someone else instead. A bit like orks in that respect.

Um...no

Khorne + sorcerer in same sentence. GTFO.

Why? The Khorne hates magic, no exceptions, stuff is mainly found in Warhammer Fantasy. In fact we have several Khorne cults which utilise psykers and sorcery ( Blood Pact and the Sanctified for example ).

Topic=derailed.

So all the Tau need to kill a titan is to convert this uber grey knight over to the greater good. Not sure how the daemon world fits in within the topic.

Topic?

hit with the usual de-rail-guns .

Since we are at chaos engines now, how about them?

- posessed machines, so maybe its crew a bit harder to kill?
- may repair themselves with sorcery?
- chaotic tactics...
- possible help from other factions opposed to chaos?

1hadhq wrote:Topic?

hit with the usual de-rail-guns .

Since we are at chaos engines now, how about them?

- posessed machines, so maybe its crew a bit harder to kill?
- may repair themselves with sorcery?
- chaotic tactics...
- possible help from other factions opposed to chaos?

@ the last part of the list, I could definitely see Eldar+Tau v.s Chaos.

If you destroy the machine, it's going to be finished. Tau railguns/orbital fire should still effect it.

It may mean that the chaos engine is harder to sabotage (feeling the hits, etc.) which might cause Tau commanders to adopt a more linear strategy of large-scale bombardment.

They also have to deal with the forces of chaos, who are an interesting retinue for the titan as, depending on the faction (Khorne, for instance) the retinue might not stay with the titan. Using hit and run tactics coupled with long range artillery bombardment (lined by spotters or via regular bombardment) the tau could probably take out the Titan.

Really it's a question of how best to hit it with a lot of things. Because no matter how possessed you are, rail-rounds landing inside you and blasting you apart with massive amounts of kinetic energy will 'kill' said machine.

They would have to get closer but a squadron of hammerheads with fusion cannons (forgeworld rules) wouldn't be terrible but they would take a pounding to get within range (disruption pods helpful to some extent).

agnosto wrote:They would have to get closer but a squadron of hammerheads with fusion cannons (forgeworld rules) wouldn't be terrible but they would take a pounding to get within range (disruption pods helpful to some extent).

Or they could get Kaldor Draigo to help them, he seems to have a psychic power called "Mary Sue" that's good against chaos.

im2randomghgh wrote:

agnosto wrote:They would have to get closer but a squadron of hammerheads with fusion cannons (forgeworld rules) wouldn't be terrible but they would take a pounding to get within range (disruption pods helpful to some extent).

Or they could get Kaldor Draigo to help them, he seems to have a psychic power called "Mary Sue" that's good against chaos.

Dude, let it go. It's no different than the firewarrior in the game depopulating a marine chapter, IG regiment and Chaos war force and then killing a greater daemon at the end with a spork.

agnosto wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

agnosto wrote:They would have to get closer but a squadron of hammerheads with fusion cannons (forgeworld rules) wouldn't be terrible but they would take a pounding to get within range (disruption pods helpful to some extent).

Or they could get Kaldor Draigo to help them, he seems to have a psychic power called "Mary Sue" that's good against chaos.

Dude, let it go. It's no different than the firewarrior in the game depopulating a marine chapter, IG regiment and Chaos war force and then killing a greater daemon at the end with a spork.

He was aided by Khorne. That is unfortunately canonical.


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P.S. love sporks

I need to hear the story behind this great tau-khorne-berserker

Retribution wrote:I need to hear the story behind this great tau-khorne-berserker

No one is saying it's a good story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhNyr_nc6R8

Need some help here, i can remember a story where a large Tau Hunter Cadre fought a corrupted Warlord Titan ( of Khorne i think ) and, after a costly battle, brought it down.
Can anyone remember where i might have read it?

KingDeath wrote:Need some help here, i can remember a story where a large Tau Hunter Cadre fought a corrupted Warlord Titan ( of Khorne i think ) and, after a costly battle, brought it down.
Can anyone remember where i might have read it?

familiar to me too, but no, I don't remember where.

well in savage scars they hit them with missles ALOT of missles and they dropped a warhound WITHOUT railguns so Titians are not unstoppable

Warhounds are NOT battle tiatns,and are fairly easy to destroy.Today I personally saw one blow up(normal,not Apocalyptic) via Manticore battery.

Deadshot wrote:Warhounds are NOT battle tiatns,and are fairly easy to destroy.Today I personally saw one blow up(normal,not Apocalyptic) via Manticore battery.

Gameplay is never a good indicator of fluff. And no, they aren't "fairly easy" to destroy. They pose significant problems to any enemy, hence why the Tau had to retrofit a Tiger Shark to take one out.

iproxtaco wrote:

Deadshot wrote:Warhounds are NOT battle tiatns,and are fairly easy to destroy.Today I personally saw one blow up(normal,not Apocalyptic) via Manticore battery.

Gameplay is never a good indicator of fluff. And no, they aren't "fairly easy" to destroy. They pose significant problems to any enemy, hence why the Tau had to retrofit a Tiger Shark to take one out.

That still doesn't change the fact that Warhounds are not "Battle Titans" by any stretch of the imagination.

Kanluwen wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:

Deadshot wrote:Warhounds are NOT battle tiatns,and are fairly easy to destroy.Today I personally saw one blow up(normal,not Apocalyptic) via Manticore battery.

Gameplay is never a good indicator of fluff. And no, they aren't "fairly easy" to destroy. They pose significant problems to any enemy, hence why the Tau had to retrofit a Tiger Shark to take one out.

That still doesn't change the fact that Warhounds are not "Battle Titans" by any stretch of the imagination.

No, it doesn't, I agreed with him, hence why I didn't contend the point.

No,they are fairly easy to destroy,compared with other Super heavies.AV 14,13 12,3SP,2 voids.Not as durable as a Monlith,and that isn't even superheavy.

Game stats =/= Fluff.

Reacers,in stats and fluff,are twice as durable as Warhounds.Warlords are roughly 50% tougher than reavers

coolyo294 wrote:Game stats =/= Fluff.

+1

Void shields aren't overcome in the game like you had to in the background.