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 Jimsolo wrote:
I thought the upgrades were indeed different.

Anyone confirm? It'd be nice if we could see exactly what we're getting rather than just the glamour shots.

Still no update... so first sign that nothing has changed...

Yay! I've got my popcorn ready for this.

 pretre wrote:
So from the previous KS, is there any reason to get the troopers as opposed to the command? I.e. Does the command have all the bits from the troopers PLUS the command bits or are they different?

Like, if I wanted to make a 5 girl BSS squad, I need 2 heavies/specials and a sergeant. Seems like Command is the way to go.

Yeah, i'd say "body" poses are different, heads etc too.

So getting 1 of each would provide flexibility, etc. only if you want more than 5... if just 5 then yeah, i'd go Command Squad =)

An easy pass. The prices are just as ridiculous as last time, but the concept art's incoherent.

 BlackTalos wrote:

 pretre wrote:
So from the previous KS, is there any reason to get the troopers as opposed to the command? I.e. Does the command have all the bits from the troopers PLUS the command bits or are they different?

Like, if I wanted to make a 5 girl BSS squad, I need 2 heavies/specials and a sergeant. Seems like Command is the way to go.

Yeah, i'd say "body" poses are different, heads etc too.

So getting 1 of each would provide flexibility, etc. only if you want more than 5... if just 5 then yeah, i'd go Command Squad =)

So just doing math:
6 BSS Squads (5 girls, 3 Bolter, 2 Special, 1 Sgt)
3 Dominions (4 Special, 1 Sgt)
3 Retributor Squads (4 Special, 1 Sgt)

Pretty much my max MSU. Works out to 12 bolters, 12 Sgts, 36 Special/Heavies. 60 Girls. 60 Girls is 12 Command Squads, which only gets you 24 Specials, 12 Sgts, 24 Bolters. I figure converting is a thing though...


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 AlexHolker wrote:
An easy pass. The prices are just as ridiculous as last time, but the concept art's incoherent.

Yeah, the individual sculpt characters are a bit spendy. The troops are nice and cheap though.


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I'd really like to see some test minis before I finalize my pledge though. What am I getting into? lol

 pretre wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
I thought the upgrades were indeed different.

Anyone confirm? It'd be nice if we could see exactly what we're getting rather than just the glamour shots.

Here are some pictures, you can zoom in with the gallery view


Command



Troops

I might pledge for a few of the Sc-fi sisters- if I get the freebies before the new KS ends. I picked up a few quasi-Sisters of Battle from a Ukrainian company, and these look like they will compliment them.

 pretre wrote:

 BlackTalos wrote:

 pretre wrote:
So from the previous KS, is there any reason to get the troopers as opposed to the command? I.e. Does the command have all the bits from the troopers PLUS the command bits or are they different?

Like, if I wanted to make a 5 girl BSS squad, I need 2 heavies/specials and a sergeant. Seems like Command is the way to go.

Yeah, i'd say "body" poses are different, heads etc too.

So getting 1 of each would provide flexibility, etc. only if you want more than 5... if just 5 then yeah, i'd go Command Squad =)

So just doing math:
6 BSS Squads (5 girls, 3 Bolter, 2 Special, 1 Sgt)
3 Dominions (4 Special, 1 Sgt)
3 Retributor Squads (4 Special, 1 Sgt)

Pretty much my max MSU. Works out to 12 bolters, 12 Sgts, 36 Special/Heavies. 60 Girls. 60 Girls is 12 Command Squads, which only gets you 24 Specials, 12 Sgts, 24 Bolters. I figure converting is a thing though...


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 AlexHolker wrote:
An easy pass. The prices are just as ridiculous as last time, but the concept art's incoherent.

Yeah, the individual sculpt characters are a bit spendy. The troops are nice and cheap though.


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I'd really like to see some test minis before I finalize my pledge though. What am I getting into? lol

I hope that "Standard" troopers get some special weapons too, otherwise you are correct, "Command"-only would be the way to go.

Unless you play 20-BSS with Jacobus =P

Thanks! So it looks like Command is Troopers plus Bits, so you can still make what you need just getting command.

RoninXiC wrote:
Still no update... so first sign that nothing has changed...

They've added more stretch goals and it has only been an hour. Get a grip!

I've stuck myself on a lieutenant pledge again. Despite how poorly the last KS was run the models that came out of it were pretty top notch imo so happy to back this one. Even if it's delayed again it doesn't really bother me, just want the end product to be worth it.

Seems like there won't be much "new" in terms of stretchgoals. "just" the minis they're already showing us.

I'm in for $32, just like I said, Reyalia and one unit of Knights of the Chalice. And round two of the artbooks that never seem to show up of course.

 BlackTalos wrote:
Unless you play 20-BSS with Jacobus =P

I do. But if you buy 12 Command Groups (to make your 6 BSS, 3 Dom, 3 Ret) you can still:

BSS 20 - 1 sgt, 2 special, 17 Girls
BSS 5 - 2 Bolter, 1 Sgt, 2 Special
BSS 5 - 4 Bolter, 1 sgt
3 Doms - 12 Special, 3 Sgt
2 Rets - 8 Special, 2 Sgt

You'd have one girl and 4 sgts left over (Celestian)? And that assumes no conversions.

Sisters of the Orphanage are pretty cool-looking though. Musician is a cook?

The Void Elves Executrix looks like they might make a good Bladesworn Retinue I wouldn't be embarassed to put on a table, and I'm glad they're already in renders. Have to think about whether they're worth $20 plus shipping to me... and see if any of the shadows make a good Corsair Princess, the ones I can see aren't working for me.

Wait, what?

The regular BSS trooper command group is a stretch goal??

Long story short, you could do a standard SOB army for the Commander box.


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 BlackTalos wrote:
Wait, what?

The regular BSS trooper command group is a stretch goal??

Yeah, but it is unlocked already.

 rayphoton wrote:

Is there more of a description than "backer's anger and frustration" ?
What was so...... umm..... *Bad* last time?

Heres the short time line of it all

-Awesome miniature campaign drops and we all pitch in.
-French company is french and seeing all the money there making put up ridiculous stretch goals.
-As with all Kickstartes funds stall out and seeing their SG are not going be reached French company just randomly changes entire campaign proving that everything was gonna be released anyway and that they are just greedy.

Oh wow, this is happening again it seems =P

All of the models (or pretty much "All" ) are locked as stretch goals >.>


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 pretre wrote:
Long story short, you could do a standard SOB army for the Commander box.

"With" the commander box i am guessing. But yeah, you're right. However looking at Denkstrum's Pictures, there might be some differences. (Only going by leg poses)

Lots of very very pretty pictures.......... must admit they have gone all out on the art again.

Just got my KS "freebies" which are nice.........

waiting for retail on these so I can see what the actual minis look like. I already have some of the blood vestals and they are lovely models.

Heh, am I the only person that finds it amusing that the "Digital Art Book" is the pledge reward for most of the lower level pledges, when that's still MIA from their previous campaign?

Daughters of the Crucible (the ones being moaned about) don't seem to have a 40K sub do they?

If anything, i'd say the first Project was almost only "Guard Count-as", whereas this one is much more "Our own stuff, with some 40k usage, possibly"

 BlackTalos wrote:
Daughters of the Crucible (the ones being moaned about) don't seem to have a 40K sub do they?

If anything, i'd say the first Project was almost only "Guard Count-as", whereas this one is much more "Our own stuff, with some 40k usage, possibly"

Yeah, there's no equivalent for DotC.

Sisters are Doms, BSS, Rets.
Icarians are Seraphim.
Davidians are Repentia.
DotC are ???
KotC are ???

Arthenya ??? or Uriah or Priest?
Trematta is Hospitaller
Augusta ???
Templar Ela ??? or Canoness
Altarii is Seraphim character
Zaraya is Uriah or Priest?
Revallia is  Canoness
Erya ???
Huntress is Inquisitor
Delores is ???
Sol Sarya is Uriah or Priest?
Erzebel is Celestine

All the heroins could be generic 40k heroes.

 Buzzsaw wrote:
Heh, am I the only person that finds it amusing that the "Digital Art Book" is the pledge reward for most of the lower level pledges, when that's still MIA from their previous campaign?

I also found that amusing, and pretty ballsy of them to even offer.

I'm really torn on going through with this. I like the models, but I'd basically have to replace my entire SOB force if I do this. The question I have to ask is whether they are cool enough to want to do that.

Or I could dial down my pledge and get a couple characters that would match and not make me replace everything. That's probably where I will end up. I guess we'll see as the campaign progresses.

Set a reminder for myself to check my pledge right before it closes.

 Buzzsaw wrote:
Heh, am I the only person that finds it amusing that the "Digital Art Book" is the pledge reward for most of the lower level pledges, when that's still MIA from their previous campaign?

Noticed, but decided against bringing it up lest I sound like a jerk again.

Well, as I figured, much like the previous KS, the heroines do nothing for me. That being said, as before, I love the troop designs. Those fantasy elf troops look really cool. I probably will wind up backing for the Incubi though. Doesn't look like there will be a free shipping option this time around though.

Is it just me, or are they taking models from the models banner and just adding them to the list of Stretch Goals once they are "already unlocked?"

I think they had this planned as follows:
30,000$ to unlock all the stuff marked as "unlocked at funding" there are quite a few of those.

Everything else seems to be a 10,000$ stretchgoal.

The project is truely finished when EVERYTHING got it's 10,000$ sg.